RE: Forte with OpenVMS

Forte uses the standard VMS user privileges of TMPMBX and NETMBX, although
you may consider them restrictive, these are normal non-privileged account
settings.
If you have a wrapped C routine, then this will show up as a shared library.
You could install the library as a shareable image and give it the
appropriate
run-time privileges, so that any code that executes within the library gets
what
is needed - obviously you need to control who calls this code - which is
your
next problem.
The simplest mechanism that I can think of to do this is to use a set of
rights
identifiers, similar to that within VMS, for the Forte user. Obviously you
will
need a user and rights database - but I guess that you must have this
somewhere
in the system anyway.
Attach the rights identifiers to the task on the task context object so that
they
get sent over the network with every call. For sensitive calls check the
presence
of the rights identifiers before allowing the call to take place. Using
application wide rights identifiers means that you can be independent of the
underlying OS user id / password mechanisms once you have the information.
Regards,
- David
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Sent: 02 July 1999 08:23
To: 'Andy Grace'; Forte Users (Adresse de messagerie)
Subject: RE: Forte with OpenVMS
We are using Forte and VMS, and we use the forte usercode to run the node
manager. All the subprocesses inherit this username when fired off as
detached processes. You can take a look at the tech note 11037
for more info
about subprocess privileges, and for a way to change all this.
We are using the standard way to fire off partitions, which means that we
are restricted to the forte username (or whatever other username we choose
to be our node manager owner, of course) and the forte defined subprocess
privileges. This does not give us too many problems unless we try
doing some
functions that are not allowed under the privileges defined by Forte. I
have no idea as of why Forte has chosen the current privilege
set, which is
quite restrictive. This can be a pain, especially if you try to do some
system management functions via a Forte partition. It would be highly
desirable to have a means to dynamically acquire the privileges we need
without having to incurr the cost of managing specially built procedures.
Forte says that this may change in the future...
We have implemented a network wide user security and validation component
based on the VMS getuai system service, which we have wrappered
very easily
via a C routine. As far as our application is concerned, the
actual OS user
executing the partition is specifically made not important for,
among other
reasons, we have a mixed environment (NT, VMS, W95/8) and our server
partitions are distributed in different servers throughout the
network. Our
main concerns are centered around controlling the client requesting
something from the application and not the OS security since the user does
not have direct access to it anyway. Under these circumstances we need to
handle the application's security issues ourselves (We are not reinventing
the wheel here, only implementing some Forte and well known patterns).
Maybe somebody else has a better solution than coding a user security
schema, I would certainly like to hear about it for it should be a fairly
commmon problem for every distributed application.
Regards,
Alberto
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G'Day
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Control Panel)
All application resources must be installed & running local (ODBC connection
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RE: (forte-users) Support for OpenVMS v7.1-2 on EV6 chip setques tion

http://www.forte.com/support/platforms.html
Dec Alpha with OpenVMS 7.1 is supported for 3L2
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To: 'Soapbox Forte Users'
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Subject: (forte-users) Support for OpenVMS v7.1-2 on EV6 chip set
question ...
Folxs
I have a new EV6 Alpha available and want to run Forte on it.
OpenVMS v7.1-2 is a supported OS for Forte v30G2 and 30L2 I think.
OpenVMS v7.1-2 is a supported OS for the new EV6 Alpha chipset.
Will Forte v30G2 or 30L2 work on this hardware?
Is it supported on this platform?
When will it be supported on the EV6 chip set and what version of Forte do
I
need?
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Dirk
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At 09:33 AM 4/20/01, Rottier, Pascal wrote:
Forte 4GL is:
1) A language, TOOL (Compare to Java)
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continues to put money into ADE development for all its language
products. The real kicker, though, is that I think iPlanet is very clear
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who wish it were written in Java and who might lobby for doing a Java
version, but it was clear at the conference that the iPlanet management
recognize that Java just isn't up to the task at this point. It isn't as
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succesfull this will be, but I expect Microsoft to push this down the
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Forte Integration With Exchange or Netscape CalendarServer

Hi folks.
I am trying to write an application that will either talk to Ms Exchange
or the Netscape Calender Server.
The application should automatically make an appointment on the user's
calendar based on the time and date specificied. Over here I am not sure
what components that Microsoft or Netscape has provided for us to
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from: Suen

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You can either create a Forte 'C' project that has a direct mapping to
each of the functions supported by MAPI OR write a wrapper library for
that accepts the basic parameters to initialize mapi and send/receive
mail and talks to MAPI by itself.
We have taken the second approach and have our application totally
integrated with MAPI.
You can read more about integrating with C in the 'Integrating with
External Systems' manaual.
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Subject: Forte Integration with MS Outlook
Hi all,
Would like to ask if anyone has done any integration between Forte and
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Forte integration with Accounting packages

Hello all,
I would like to have more information about how Forte has been used
to integrate with Accounting packages. Any information would be
beneficial to me.
Thank you.

What you need to do is integrate Forte with MAPI.
You can either create a Forte 'C' project that has a direct mapping to
each of the functions supported by MAPI OR write a wrapper library for
that accepts the basic parameters to initialize mapi and send/receive
mail and talks to MAPI by itself.
We have taken the second approach and have our application totally
integrated with MAPI.
You can read more about integrating with C in the 'Integrating with
External Systems' manaual.
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Indus Consultancy Services
201-261-3100 x232
[email protected]
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Subject: Forte Integration with MS Outlook
Hi all,
Would like to ask if anyone has done any integration between Forte and
Microsoft Outlook? or even Exchange?
Would appreciate any information.
Thanks,
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Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
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RE: Legacy Integration with PI/Open

Greg -
We are currently working on wrappering the APIs for UniVerse (aka Pick on
UNIX).
We received some help from the guys at RTD in Denver.
We tested out a C program that uses the Universe APIs and it works fine.
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Subject: Legacy Integration with PI/Open
This is a bit of a long shot, but has anyone experience with integrating
Forte with PI/Open. PI/Open is a variant of PICK. We have a requirement
to read and update a PI/Open database from within our Forte application,
and we would be most interested to hear from anyone who has experience in
doing this.
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:12:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Java Integration
Hello,
I'm trying to integrate Forti with Java in Java mode using IIOP.I
followed the steps as explained in the Forti Web enterprise manual.I
compiled the Java files that are generated by Forti along with the
client Java file.The Java applet is getting downloaded on the client
browser(IE 4.0), but the problem is browser is giving an exception
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the ior file name **.
My question is on every client is it necessary for ORB(Visigenic for
Java 3.2) and also the Forti Java interoperability package that is
provided by the Forti for compatability with Java or it is not
required on the clients ?
Is there any other alternative to achieve the goal as this will give
wide access to the Forti service objects through Web Browser clients.
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Java Integration
Hello,
I'm trying to integrate Forti with Java in Java mode using IIOP.I
followed the steps as explained in the Forti Web enterprise manual.I
compiled the Java files that are generated by Forti along with the
client Java file.The Java applet is getting downloaded on the client
browser(IE 4.0), but the problem is browser is giving an exception
** Java.lang.RuntimeException can't connect to service object with
the ior file name **.
My question is on every client is it necessary for ORB(Visigenic for
Java 3.2) and also the Forti Java interoperability package that is
provided by the Forti for compatability with Java or it is not
required on the clients ?
Is there any other alternative to achieve the goal as this will give
wide access to the Forti service objects through Web Browser clients.
Please mail me the solution to this problem as early as possible it is
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:21:06 +0200
Subject: Re: Legacy Integration with PI/Open
Greg,
This is a bit of a long shot, but has anyone experience with integrating
Forte with PI/Open. PI/Open is a variant of PICK. We have arequirement
to read and update a PI/Open database from within our Forte application,
and we would be most interested to hear from anyone who has experiencein
doing this.
We are aware of a set of APIs provided with PI/Open that are written in
"C". We could wrapper these from within Forte, however the issue isthat
the APIs provided are non-shared, and Forte requires shared libraries.Would be interersting, which operating system you're using.
You could write a dll (on windows) or shared library (on unix) wrappering
the
original,statically linked "C"-Libs. This lib could be used by Forte.
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From: "Rottier, Pascal" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:38:25 +0200
Subject: RE: Forms That Will Not Close
Exiting the event loop will not close the window! Invoking
'Close' method on the window will. Check if this method
is executed. It appears, the AfterFinalize event exits the
event loop and nothing more. Then, your applications
waits for some event from your main window, like 'Mouse-
Enter', before invoking Window.Close().
Pascal
Hi,
We seem to be having some type of deadlock problem when trying to
close
forms and am wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem.
The
phenomenon does not always occur and is not specific to any one client
machine.
I will explain the phenomenon:
1. We have an object that contains our main application startup
method.
This method then instantiates our main application window (Control)
and
invokes the Display() method using start task.
2. All other forms created by the application are created using a form
manager service object which exists on the client partition. The form
manager has a CreateForm() method which instantiates a form class of
the
specified type and invoked the form's Display() method using start
task.
3. Each form has a Close push button which when clicked invokes
Window.RequestFinalize().
Now, the problem we have is this:
The user starts the application and the main application window is
displayed. The user then selects an option from the main window and a
child form is created using the form manager service object and is
displayed. The user can continue to create more child forms by
selecting
options from the main window and all child forms are instantiated and
displayed correctly.
However, when the user attempts to close one of the forms the form
does
not close. The finalize event is triggered and the event loop is
exited,
but the form continues to be displayed and does not close. If the user
then moves the mouse pointer over the main application window, the
child
form immediately closes. Moving the mouse cursor over other child
windows (or even the desktop) does NOT do this - only when the mouse
cursor is moved over the main window does the child form close.
Does anyone have any ideas on this?
Regards,
Jace.
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From: Jason de Cean <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:47:20 +1000
Subject: RE: Forms That Will Not Close
Hi Pascal,
The Display() method is as follows:
self.Open();
event loop
when Window.AfterFinalize do
exit;
when task.Shutdown do
exit;
end event;
self.Close();
<end>
Are you saying we should do a Window.Close() in there somewhere as well
Regards,
Jace.
On Monday, 12 October 1998 17:36, Rottier, Pascal
[SMTP:[email protected]] wrote:
Exiting the event loop will not close the window!
Invoking
'Close' method on the window will. Check if this method
is executed. It appears, the AfterFinalize event exits
the
event loop and nothing more. Then, your applications
waits for some event from your main window, like 'Mouse-
Enter', before invoking Window.Close().
Pascal
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From: "Rottier, Pascal" <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:04:24 +0200
Subject: RE: Forms That Will Not Close
Jason,
No, self.Close() should close the window. This is the
method I referred to. You could place a traceline
behind self.Close() to see if it is executed. It is not
inconcievable some exception may exit the Display()
method before self.Close() is executed.
After that, maybe, some events from your main
window trigger something that causes a call like 'My-
Window.Close()', where 'MyWindow' is a subclass of
'UserWindow', so 'MyWindow' gets closed after all.
Maybe you've overridden 'Close()', so now it doesn't
work properly anymore.
Are you sure you exit the event loop after you press
the close button?? The display method is not regis-
terred for any <PushButton>.Click event, though maybe
you just didn't include the full Display method in your
mail.
Remember that an event loop will only respond to an
event if it is not currently handling an event. So, the
method behind <PushButton>.Click may call a self.
Window.RequestFinalize(), which will cause an After-
Finalize event to be posted, which will be placed in
the event queue. If this method however keeps waiting
for something, the event loop will not respond to the
AfterFinalize event, until this method is done waiting.
Pascal.
Hi Pascal,
The Display() method is as follows:
self.Open();
event loop
when Window.AfterFinalize do
exit;
when task.Shutdown do
exit;
end event;
self.Close();
<end>
Are you saying we should do a Window.Close() in there somewhere as
well
Regards,
Jace.
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From: Thomas Kunst <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:28:55 +0200
Subject: Re: AfterValueChange event trigged when it shouldn't be...
Which version of Fort=E9 are you using? We had some strage problems with
GUI events in Fort=E9 3.0.F.2, which disappeared now that we use 3.0.J.1!=
Fouche, Jaco wrote:
=
Hi there,
=
I'm hoping that someone out there has experienced the following (and
knows why it is happening. ) :-)
=
I have a couple of windows on which the AfterValueChange event is
triggered on a field upon hitting the delete key.
We all know that this should only happen upon leaving the field, ie. th=e
field loosing focus. The problem is that I'm trying to recreate this in=
a simple test class, but now it won't happen. I still have the original=
windows on which it is happening, but I would like to construct
something small and simple to send to Forte.
=
Any ideas as to why this could be happening?
=- -- =
Dr. Thomas Kunst mailto:[email protected]
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From: Greg Gorham <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:51:07 -0400
Subject: math library
I need direction to the source of Forte libs that handle more scientific
math. Also included is the need for more scientific print formating. I
understand, second hand, that such material is available from third
party vendors/sources.
Thanks
Greg Gorham
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Greg,
This is a bit of a long shot, but has anyone experience with integrating
Forte with PI/Open. PI/Open is a variant of PICK. We have a requirement
to read and update a PI/Open database from within our Forte application,
and we would be most interested to hear from anyone who has experience in
doing this.
We are aware of a set of APIs provided with PI/Open that are written in
"C". We could wrapper these from within Forte, however the issue is that
the APIs provided are non-shared, and Forte requires shared libraries.Would be interersting, which operating system you're using.
You could write a dll (on windows) or shared library (on unix) wrappering the
original,statically linked "C"-Libs. This lib could be used by Forte.
Tim Hagemann
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Testing in Forte: Good News :-)

Hi
The purpose of this message is to address some inaccuracies in the attached
message regarding testing tools. I thought I would share with you all what
I found out about testing tools that work with Forte.
I heard back from Forte users about two testing tools:
1) Mercury LoadRunner / WinRunner etc.
2) ClassIQ's product called IQTest
Mercury
I spoke with a Mercury representative today who listed for me several sites
which are successfully using Forte with Mercury (one of these sites is even
located here in Australia!). The problems described in the attached
message or accurate; however, the workarounds are documented and easy to
understand.
You can use Mercury today with Forte.
In addition, Mercury has been working for several months now on an even
tighter integration with Forte. This project has been extremely
successful. There is at least one Forte site in the USA which is using
this Forte/Mercury integrated product. According to the Mercury rep, the
Mercury/Forte tighter integration is now in beta testing and should be
production in May/June 1997. This information was verified by my contacts
at Forte HQ. If any of you need more detailed information than this please
contact me or your Mercury representative.
ClassIQ
ClassIQ currently has a small number of sites using its testing tools which
are written in Forte. Needless to say, ClassIQ is very tightly integrated
with the Forte environment. If you would like to know more about ClassIQ
contact Joe Burns at 105210,[email protected].
I am sure there are many other people using other testing tools with
Forte....these are just the two I have heard about in the initial responses
to my query. I would love to hear about other testing tools which work
well with Forte.
Regards,
Eric
At 11:19 AM 2/19/97 +0530, you wrote:
Hi,
We evaluated quite a few test tools in relation to the forte
environment. All of them have the same problem : The inability to
correctly map Forte widgets. Most of them cannot recognise
Outlinefields, ArrayFields etc. Even if they do recognise a forte widget
only basic properties like the size of the widget, its position on the
screen etc. are recorded. Data contents of the widget are not
recognized.
To clarify the above points : Given a screen with a TextData widget, you
can record and playback this sequence without any problems with most
Test tools :- Position the mouse on the widget, Type 'Testing' .
Ideally, the TextData widget should have a property 'Content' or 'Value'
(different test tools call it differently) which will have the value
'Testing'. In case of forte this does not happen. What is recorded are
the low level mouse movements or keyboard strokes. The position on the
screen where the value is typed is recorded and played back.
Low level recording maybe acceptable in some circumstances but say - you
have a widget which gets populated by a database query. How will you
test the values displayed ?
Some of the test tools are customizable i.e. you can actually create a
widget class of your own and try to map it to a recognized (by the Tool)
widget class. This will be a time consuming process with a great deal of
trial and error and no guarantees of success.
If the sole objective is navigate through screens and record and
playback, then most of the automated test tools work. If you want to
make full use of a test tools capabilities and want to go further and
intelligently record and playback, most test tools have very very
limited use.
Discussions with Test tool vendors have revealed the following :
- Forte has not released a Test API to any particular vendor or the
market at large
- Forte implementation sites are at the moment too few for any test tool
vendor to invest in Research and Development and come out with a Test
API.
So as it goes the chances of a fully compatible Forte test tool in the
near future are remote.
Forte's own AutoTester project has a limited usage. My own evaluation is
that it cannot be used for big sized implementations. Along with other
limitations, test management facilities that are particularly relevant
for big sized implementations simply don't exist with AutoTester.
The only product in the market that is Forte specific and is more a
testing Framework than a tool is TestIQ from ClassIQ. I am keen to get
information about TestIQ from any of its implementation sites. Again I
am not sure about its test management capabilities.
Hope the information helps,
Parvathi Iyer,
[email protected]
From: David Campbell[SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 2:08PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Development tools
Hi all,
We are about to embark on a sizable Forte development and are interested
in hearing from anybody who has successfully used automated test tools
with Forte. Also, does anybody know of a problem tracking tool that can
be linked to the Forte source repository for the purpose of tracking the
status software bugs, fixes etc.
Thanks,
David Campbell
System Consultant
CSC Australia
From: [email protected][SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 1997 11:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Automated test tools
I've read about Capture/Replay and played with the AutoTester project a
little. I'm curious as to the experiences that developers have had with
using these tools to automate testing of GUI applications. Has anyone
actually deployed an application that successfully uses these tools? How
does it compare against other automated test tools?
One limitation that I see with using Capture/Replay is that any non-Forte
client interfacing with my Forte code would not be able to use this
mechanism to perform its auto testing. Also, while playing with the
AutoTester I actually got a playback which was slightly different than what
I did while doing the capture.
Thanks,
Jim Hancock
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Thanks for the news Nancy!

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