Re: Fwd: Wlnav tool

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replying to <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> so other users can
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Satya Ghattu wrote:
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<span class="gmail_quote">From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Ben Ames</b>
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Date: Sep 1, 2006 5:24 PM<br>
Subject: Wlnav tool<br>
To: [email protected]<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Hello,</font></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">We
recently upgraded to WebLogic 9.2 and have started using the wlnav tool
to help us monitor our systems. It has been really helpful to us in
understanding what
</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">'</font></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">s going on with our servers.</font></span><span
lang="en-us"></span>
<span lang="en-us"> <font face="Arial" size="2">I have some
questions, though, about some things we would like to do with the tool.</font></span><span
lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">The first
is that I know that the data harvested from WebLogic is stored in the
server logs. </font></span></p>
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Data is stored by WLDF in a file store which is optimized for storage
and retrieval of information.<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">I</font></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">'</font>
</span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">ve read that
the WLDF framework can log this data to a database but is it possible
for wlnav to connect to a database to get the information logged to it?</font></span></p>
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WlNav uses WLDF accessor to access all the data. Once WLDF is
configured to persist data to DB, I think accessor should seamlessly be
able to read data from DB. I'm CC'ing this mail to diagnostics
newsgroup so someone from Diagnostics team can confirm this behavior
and provide more pointers.<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">I also
like using the summary tab to get all the graphs into one web page that
I can look at and compare without having to tab through multiple
screens. However, since graphs
</font></span><span lang="en-us"> <font face="Arial" size="2">are
grouped by mBean, it makes it difficult to separate some of the data or
see data at all. A good example would be UsedHeap and JVMProcessorUsage
for the Jrockit mbean.
</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2"> Is
there a way to separate these graphs on the summary or would this have
to be added?</font></span></p>
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Currently in summary view it's only possible to use grouping by MBean.
Can you save one of your summary page (images too) and provide it as a
zip file, so I can easily visualize the problem.<br>
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When we wrote WlNav we wanted to show the power of WLST and WLDF, since
then Diagnostics team have provided a console UI extension which should
be able to support your customization need. For more info see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs92/wldf_console_ext/index.html">http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs92/wldf_console_ext/index.html</a><br>
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<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">For our
production systems, we</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Arial" size="2">'</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Arial" size="2">ve noticed that generating graphs can take five
to ten minutes depending on the duration and number of servers we
</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">'</font></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">re graphing. A one hour
duration over eleven servers has taken</font></span><span lang="en-us">
<font face="Arial" size="2">
at least five minutes before. Is this normal?</font></span></p>
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The time taken will depend upon your duration and the frequency at
which the data is being harvested by WLDF.  I've a feeling that the #
of datapoint in each graph is large. What's fequency have you
configured your harvester with.<br>
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WLDF console extension
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs92/wldf_console_ext/index.html">http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs92/wldf_console_ext/index.html</a>) provides
a nice mix of mbean and WLDF monitoring, so for you real time
monitoring needs it should be able to get data directly from MBeans.<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Finally,
is the logging of the data asynchronous? We would like to poll our
production servers more frequently than five minutes but we</font></span><span
lang="en-us">
<font face="Arial" size="2">'</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Arial" size="2">re afraid it</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Arial" size="2">'</font></span><span lang="en-us"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
ll have ill effects on our system. Right now we</font></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">'</font></span><span
lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">re polling every five minutes
on eight points of data over eleven servers.</font></span></p>
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WLFD harvester captures data in a very efficient manner and is done in
a different thread. Thus polling by WlNav (using accessor) and logging
of data are independent.<br>
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--Vishal<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks,</font></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"><span lang="en-us"><font face="Arial" size="2">Ben</font></span><span
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By default, WLDF stores harvester and instrumentation data in the file store. WLDF can be configured to use a data source to store this data in a database. This is transparent to clients such as wlnav, which access the data through the accessor interface.

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