Re-Using a Spry Menu

I have created a menu on one page and I cannot find a answer on how to reuse it on a new page, IE canot find aw ay to attached it to the main style sheet?
Thankyou
Brad

Spaline wrote:
I have created a menu on one page and I cannot find a answer on how to reuse it on a new page, IE canot find aw ay to attached it to the main style sheet?
Thankyou
Brad
Hi Brad,
Due to the lack of information provided, I shall assume that you create a new document for each page (i.e. not using a template or similar) and you do not have a serverside interpreter like PHP, Coldfusion or ASP.
If that is the case and assuming that all of your documents are in the same place as index.htm(l), all you need to do is paste and copy the Spry Menu files into each document, this includes the list, constructor and links to the Javascript and CSS files. As a minimum, see the following code where the red parts refer to a Spry Horizontal Menu.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<script src="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<link href="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>
<body>
<ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
  <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 1</a>
    <ul>
      <li><a href="#">Item 1.1</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 1.2</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 1.3</a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
  <li><a href="#">Item 2</a></li>
  <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3</a>
    <ul>
      <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3.1</a>
        <ul>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.1</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.2</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 3.2</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 3.3</a></li>
    </ul>
  </li>
  <li><a href="#">Item 4</a></li>
</ul>
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
//-->
</script>
</body>
</html>
If this does not answer your question, please supply an online code.
Ben

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    /* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
    /* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
    LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
    /* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        cursor: default;
        width: auto;
        float: none;
    /* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
    ul.MenuBarActive
        z-index: 1000;
    /* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 11pt;
        position: relative;
        text-align: left;
        cursor: pointer;
        float: left;
        background-color: #716BA3;
        font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
        color: #FFF;
        width: white-space
    : now;
    /* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 11pt;
        z-index: 1020;
        cursor: default;
        width: auto;
        position: absolute;
        left: -1000em;
        color: #FFF;
        border-right-width: 2px;
        border-right-style: groove;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
    /* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
        float: none;
        background-color: transparent;
    /* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
        position: absolute;
        margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
        border-right-style: none;
        border-top-style: none;
        border-bottom-style: none;
        border-left-style: none;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
        top: 0;
    DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
    /* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        border-right-width: 2px;
        border-top-style: none;
        border-right-style: groove;
        border-bottom-style: none;
        border-left-style: none;
        border-top-color: #CCC;
        border-right-color: #CCC;
        border-bottom-color: #CCC;
        border-left-color: #CCC;
    /* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
        display: block;
        cursor: pointer;
        background-color: #716BA3;
        color: #FFF;
        text-decoration: none;
        font-style: normal;
        font-weight: bold;
        border-right-style: groove;
        border-right-color: #006;
        padding-top: 0.5em;
        padding-right: 0.75em;
        padding-left: 0.75em;
        padding-bottom: 0.6em;
        border-right-width: 2px;
        list-style-type: none;
    /* Menu items that have mouse over or focus or visited have a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:visited
        background-color: #716BA3;
        color: #FFF;
        font-weight: bold;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        background-color: #006;
        color: #FFF;
    SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
        /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);*/
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
        background-color: #716BA3;
        color: #FFF;
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
        /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
    /* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
        position: absolute;
        z-index: 1010;
        filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
        ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
            display: inline;
            f\loat: left;
            background: #FFF;
    #Comment_label {
        font-weight: bold;
        color: #FFF;ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:visited {
        /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
    /* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
        position: absolute;
        z-index: 1010;
        filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
        ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
            display: inline;
            f\loat: left;
            background: #FFF;
    #Comment_label {
        font-weight: bold;
        color: #FFF;}

    Hi mjw133,
    There is already a topic about this problem
    here.
    You can also check out this
    tech
    note

  • Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) - Handling of widget generated CSS, placement and rendering problems in CSS

    Hello:
    I wanted to repost my question to re-frame the issue based on what I have learned thus far.
    I am working on a website that has been developed using the Spry Menu Bar Framework UI (2.0) I.0, that has some peculiar rendering problems that affect IE 6 in particular.  The CSS is reprinted below.
    In particular, when I post the widget generated CSS in the head as it is orginally situated by the framework, the menu bar works fine.  However, it seemed to me that I should be able to reduce page weight (an important consideration considering my target population) by placing it in the general style sheet governing the entire site.
    When I place the styles at the beginning of the style sheet the menu doesn't render at all in any of the browsers (IE 6+, Firefox, Opera, Safari, Netscape, etc.) as it conflicts with the general rules governing links that appear later in the style sheet.  When I place the styles specific to the Menu bar at the end of the style sheet, then the menu bar renders properly in all browsers except IE 6.
    The odd thing is that the only way to ensure that the menu bar works in IE 6 is to keep the menu related styles in the head of each page.  This raises problems related to page weight (not an insurmountable consideration if no other solution can be found) but still an issue.  Likewise I need to support IE 6, again given the target audience/population.  The issue obviously has something to do with specificity, but I am not certain that is the only consideration at work here.  I have not tried the !important selector in regard to the menu, as IE 6 seems to only partially support this.
    Thanks in advance for any advice or insight that can be provided.  Thanks in particular to Martin for his contributions to my earlier question related to this issue.
    Steve Webster.
    The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows:  (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
    <style type="text/css">
    /*  -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles --  */
    /* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
    /* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
       these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
         These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
       .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
        .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
       You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
        They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
            MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
            MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
            MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned. 
            MenuBarFixedCentered -  - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                            and centered in its parent container.
            MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
        In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
       with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
        there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
    #MenuBar  {
        background-color:transparent;
       font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                    MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                    at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                    Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                    so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                    100% on submenu fonts. */
        font-weight: normal;
        font-size: 17px;
        font-style: normal;
        padding:0;
    /* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
    widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
    in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
    .MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
        display:none;
    .MenuBarLeftShrink {
        float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarRightShrink {
        float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarFixedLeft {
        float: left;
        width: 80em;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered {
        float: none;
        width: 80em;
        margin-left:auto;
        margin-right:auto;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered br {
        clear:both;
        display:block;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
        display:none;
    .MenuBarFullwidth {
        float: left;
        width: 100%;
    /* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemContainer {
        padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
        margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin  on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                    Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem {
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
        background-color:#000088;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;       
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:center;
        line-height:1.4em;
        color:#ffffff;
        background-color:transparent;
        padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
        width: 10em;
        width:auto;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
    /* First level submenu items */
    #MenuBar .SubMenu  .MenuItem {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 15px;
        font-style: normal;
        background-color:#000088;
        padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
        border-width:0px;
        border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
        /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
        border-style: solid solid none solid;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none;
        padding: 0px;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-top: 0px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-bottom: 10px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:left;
        line-height:1em;   
        background-color:transparent;
        color:#ffffff;
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
        width: 240px;
    /* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
        background-color: #2E35A3;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
        background-color:#2E35A3;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    /* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
    #MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
       min-width:0%;  /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
        top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
        left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                        and your personal taste.
                       0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                        on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                        menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                        the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
        z-index:10;
    #MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
        top: 0px;   
        left:100%;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
    /* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
    #MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
        top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
        left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
    /* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
    /* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
    * Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
    * giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
    * Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
    * all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
    * problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
    * Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
    * syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
    * it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
    * So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule.  We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
    * mistakenly override, making sure the  misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
    * We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
    * the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
    * css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
    * If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
    * The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu  /* IE6 selector  */{
        margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
    /* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
    /* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
    </style>
    The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below:  (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited,  a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
    @charset "utf-8";
    body  {
        font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
       min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bugthat is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8.  For Moreinformation see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
        margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
        padding: 0;
        text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
        color: #000000;
        list-style-image: none;
        background-color: #FCFCFC;
    h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
    color:#000066;
    a:link {
        color: #151A96;
        text-decoration: underline;
    a:visited {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #1B8DCD;
    a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: #F30A0A;
    a:active {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #151A96;
    #container {
        width: 960px;   
        margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
        text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection %20_960.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    #header {
           padding: 0;  /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elementsin the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #headerinstead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
            width:960px;
            height:332px;
            background-image:
            url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960 .png);
            background-repeat:no-repeat;
    #header h1 {
        margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
        padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
        display:none;
    #header img {
        display: none;
    #Main_nav_contents {
        padding: 0;
        margin-top: 0px;
        height: 39px;
        width: 950px;       
        padding-top: 275px; 
        padding-left: 39px;
        z-index: 3; 
    #MenuBarVertical {
        margin-bottom: 50px;
        padding-top: 50px;
        padding-bottom:200px;
        padding-left: 15px;
        padding-right: 15px;
    .mainContent_left {
       margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the columndown the right side of the page - no matter how much content thesidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can removethis margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the#sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
        width: 600px;
        float: left;
    .sidebar_right {
        float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:0;
        margin-right:10px;
        font-size:90%;
    .mainContent_right {
        margin-left: 10px;
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px;
        width: 600px;
        float: right;
    .sidebar_left {
        float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:30px;
        margin-right:0;
        overflow: hidden;
        font-size:90%;
    .main_content_centered {
        width: 650px;
        margin-left: 155px;
    .main_content_centered_header {
        margin-left: 75px;
    .sidebar_textbox {
        margin: 0px;   
        width: 260px;
        padding: 2px;
    .sidebar_textbox_header {
        width:255px;
        height:58px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Header.png);
    .sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
         width: 255px;   
        padding-top: 12px;   
        padding-bottom: 10px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    .sidebar_textbox_content {
       /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks inbrowser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within thebackground of the text box */
        width: 230px;
        padding-left: 20px;
        padding-right: 40px;
    .sidebar_textbox_footer {
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    I have no access to anything in the Properties Selector area.  It’s just blank, no options at.  If I go back to one of my old menus, it works just fine.  So I can't add top or submenu items to the menu like I could in the old version, unless I want to type out the code.  The menu does not display is design view like a finished product.  All I get is a listing of the menu.  I have to display the page in a browser or in live view mode to see it display right.  Which throws the page all out whack and it’s hard to edit with this big long list of text.
    So, I guess my question here is.  Does this sound right to everyone?  I saw a posting by Gramps, which makes me think I understand the problem above it true and because of that he sticks to the original version.  I want the touch pad access so I need to upgrade. 
    Is there a fix I have not found?  Some code change to make it all happy again?  Should I just dump the idea of using the Spry Menu and use something else?
    Thanks to everyone out there who take the time to answer our questions.  I think this is a my very first posting. 

    Amy, welcome to our fold.
    You have struck the epitome of the problem when using Spry Menu 2.0, it is a beast when one tries to shape and style it outside of the Widget Browser. The markup looks very meek and mild as in
    <ul id="MenuBar">
      <li> <a href="#">Home</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Entertainment</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Politics</a></li>
      <li> <a href="#">Sports</li>
    </ul>
    but once it is interpreted by the JavaScript, it looks like
    <div class="MenuBar  MenuBarLeftShrink" id="MenuBar">
        <ul id="" class="MenuBarView">
        <li class="MenuItemContainer"><a href="#" class="MenuItem MenuItemFirst" tabindex="0"><span class="MenuItemLabel">Home</span></a></li>
        <li class="MenuItemContainer"><a href="#" class="MenuItem" tabindex="-1"><span class="MenuItemLabel">Entertainment</span></a></li>
        <li class="MenuItemContainer"><a href="#" class="MenuItem" tabindex="-1"><span class="MenuItemLabel">Politics</span></a></li>
        <li class="MenuItemContainer"><a href="#" class="MenuItem" tabindex="-1"><span class="MenuItemLabel">Sports</span></a></li>
        <a href="#" class="MenuItem" tabindex="-1"><span class="MenuItemLabel MenuItemLast"></span></a>
      </ul><br class="MenuBarBreak">
    </div>
    <a href="#">
    <!-- rest of markup -->
    </a>
    </body>
    </html>
    There are certain aspects that I do not understand without spending time to follow them through. There is no documentation so you are left on your own. When submenu levels are added, the generated markup looks even stranger.
    The main problem with the original SpryMenuBar is its lack of support for touch screens; alternatively one could say that the problem lies with touch screens and their lack of ability to register hover events.
    This means that if we had a menubar that is not reliant upon hover events, our menubar will work in touch screen clients. In our menu above (that is the one that has not been reformed by JS), there is no hover event. All of the menuitems, being single level, follow the link with a click event. It is when a menuitem has a link as well as submenus that a hover event is required. If we remove the link when a menuitem has submenus, we also remove the need for a hover event and it will work in touch screen devices. To illustrate this
    <ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
      <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 1</a> <!-- no link -->
        <ul>
          <li><a href="mylink11.html">Item 1.1</a></li>
          <li><a href="mylink12.html">Item 1.2</a></li>
          <li><a href="mylink13.html">Item 1.3</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="mylink2.html">Item 2</a></li>
      <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3</a> <!-- no link -->
        <ul>
          <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3.1</a> <!-- no link -->
            <ul>
              <li><a href="mylink311.html">Item 3.1.1</a></li>
              <li><a href="mylink312.html">Item 3.1.2</a></li>
            </ul>
          </li>
          <li><a href="mylink32.html">Item 3.2</a></li>
          <li><a href="mylink33.html">Item 3.3</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="mylink4.html">Item 4</a></li>
    </ul>
    There are commercial extensions available that do work within DW as opposed to products from the Widget Browser that do not allow for DW interaction.
    Gramps

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