Recursive BOM error in MD04 (May be more related to MM?)

Hi,
I am looking for help with this error. We added a Substitute upper level Assembly Material into an existing BOM within a Production Order and this error occurs to the part in MD04.
Checking the available SAP Notes on this subject leads me to the conclusion that the reason for it happening is that the Low Level code on the substitute assembly material is missing!
The SAP Notes also provide a couple of downloads that can fix this issue, but only for SAP versions up to R/3 4.6? They are not applicable for our version - ECC 6.0.
Does anyone know if it is possible to manually change/update a Low Level Code for a material?
Regards,
Allan

No answer required at this time. Will re-post if error occurs again.

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Hi,
Thanks for trying but changing those items for the specific failing queries didn't seem to help. Though you do seem to be right about the internal/external polygon problem, so I changed it all my other queries to see if they would fail (that way things would at least be consistent), but it doesn't seem to make a difference. All my old failing quries still fail and my working ones still work. I also changed the co-ordinates as you specified and still have no changes (unless of course the results changed, but right now I'm just looking for queries that compile and run, the results don't matter yet).
Maybe this will help, I'll give you guys both sets of data, one that works and one that doesn't and maybe you can see a problem in the data that I'm just missing or too ignorant to see. The data is simply comma seperated values that I parse into the required fields in the order (id, description, x, y).
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s1-s11 ------------ 32 ------------ No
s1-s12 ------------ 31 ------------ Yes
s100-s115 --------- 29 ------------ Yes
s100-s107 --------- 36 ------------ No
s109-s115 --------- 35 ------------ No
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