Refine Edge - Feather  gives stepped and ragged result

Not sure if this has been answered, I can't find anything similar here.
CS2 used to have Select -> Feather and it worked great!
Now, in CS3 we have Select -> Refine Edge and it goes wrong almost as soon as I start moving the Feather slider. When I hit 250 (max) the resulting "Feather" has several extremely uneven and very visible steps in the blend. I usually have to go back and blur the result several times until the steps go away.
Anyone else have this problem? Is there a better way to smooth selections before deleting, filling, coloring, blending, etc
Thanks,
Pete

Most images are 8 bit. Scanner is 24 bit. The banding I mention happens with both.
Generally, I select a small area. For instance, my scanner leaves a slightly darker 1/4" strip at the left edge. A slight light fall off in that 1/4" strip down the left side.
I used to make a very narrow selection from top to bottom, at the farthest left I could go. Maybe 1/16" wide, and then feather it greatly. Then I can adjust it lighter and it used to work perfectly. Now with feather edge, I get huge banding.
Also, when feathering a layer, such as a black vignette around the edge of a photo, pushing the feather edge too high up causes extremely noticeable banding.
Why does the feather edge slider go up to 250 if banding is noticeable at 30 or 50?
I need this feature to blend layers and transitions for web design all the time and it always causes huge problems with banding.
Select -> Modify -> feather radius is very difficult to preview results. The Refine Edge preview is great, but the banding is not so great! It happens every time I use it.
To my way of thinking, selection edge feathering is selection edge feathering, no?
Thanks

Similar Messages

  • Is this a bug in ImageIO?  It gives inconsistent and nasty results

    Hi everyone
    Here's a stumper that I have been having trouble with and finally have a test case to illustrate it. First of all, the code:
    import java.awt.image.BufferedImage;
    import java.io.File;
    import java.net.URL;
    import javax.imageio.ImageIO;
    public class PicTest
        public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception
            BufferedImage buf1 = ImageIO.read(new URL("http://www.bestfoto.com/ArchivedPOTD/021606S.jpg"));
            BufferedImage buf2 = ImageIO.read(new URL("http://www.bestfoto.com/ArchivedPOTD/021606O.jpg"));
            ImageIO.write(buf1, "jpg", new File("C:/test1.jpg"));
            ImageIO.write(buf2, "jpg",  new File("C:/test2.jpg"));
    }It's all very simple - we are pulling 2 jpgs from the net and writing them to 2 files. When you run it, test2.jpg is looking very nice. However, test1 is looking horrible and the color is completely off. Anyone know what's going on here? I've seen this on quite a few jpgs now and I'm thinking that there is either a bug in java's JPG codec or the incoming image is somehow corrupted. But, any web browser I try makes the image look fine.
    What gives? Thanks!

    Yes, I think this is a bug in java5 - it cannot write jpegs out because of a missing file in $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ccm. The file is called PYCC.pf.
    I forgot that I copied this file from a previous version of the JDK, 1.4x. Maybe this is my problem? But if this file is causing the problem, then taking it out would break the jpeg writer completely.
    Anyone have an idea about this?
    Thanks
    I tried you app in j2se 1.5 and came up with this
    stack trace for both images:
    C:\jexp>java PicTest
    Exception in thread "main"
    java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Can't load
    standa
    rd profile: PYCC.pf
    at java.awt.color.ICC_Profile$2.run(Unknown
    (Unknown Source)
    at
    at
    at
    at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native
    Method)
    at
    at
    at
    at
    java.awt.color.ICC_Profile.getStandardProfile(Unknown
    Source)
    at
    at
    at java.awt.color.ICC_Profile.getInstance(Unknown
    wn Source)
    at
    at java.awt.color.ColorSpace.getInstance(Unknown
    known Source)
    at
    at
    at
    at
    com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg.JPEG.isNonStandardICC(Unk
    nown Source)
    at
    at
    at
    at
    com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg.JPEGMetadata.<init>(Unkno
    wn Source)
    at
    at
    at
    at
    com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg.JPEGImageWriter.write(Unk
    nown Source)
    at javax.imageio.ImageWriter.write(Unknown
    (Unknown Source)
    at javax.imageio.ImageIO.write(Unknown
    (Unknown Source)
    at javax.imageio.ImageIO.write(Unknown
    (Unknown Source)
    at PicTest.main(pictest.java:13)It seems to work okay with a "png" extension
    import java.awt.image.BufferedImage;
    import java.io.File;
    import java.net.URL;
    import javax.imageio.ImageIO;
    public class PicTest
    public static void main(String[] args) throws
    rows Exception
    BufferedImage buf1 = ImageIO.read(new URL(
    "http://www.bestfoto.com/ArchivedPOTD/021606S.jpg"));
    BufferedImage buf2 = ImageIO.read(new URL(
    "http://www.bestfoto.com/ArchivedPOTD/021606O.jpg"));
    //System.out.println("buf1 type = " +
    pe = " + buf1.getType() + "\n" +
    //                   "buf2 type = " +
    pe = " + buf2.getType());
    // buf1 type = 5
    // buf2 type = 5
    // 5 -> TYPE_3BYTE_BGR
    ImageIO.write(buf1, "png", new
    ng", new File("C:/test1.png"));
    ImageIO.write(buf2, "png", new
    ng", new File("C:/test2.png"));

  • Adjusting settings in Refine Edge after outputting new layer mask?

    After using Refine Edge in CS5.5 and removing the background from an image, I set it to output as a new layer mask. Next I place the image on top of a background and see that it needs some additional adjustments. How do I now get back to the Refine Edge window where I can see the changes I made previously and modify some of the settings? When I reopen the Refine Edge window the settings from before are no longer there.
    Thanks.

    You need to select the layer mask, and use refine Mask rather that Refine edge.  There is an excellent tutorial by Martin Evening here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssJRkbkHAa4

  • Refine Edge tool problem

    I'm following a tutorial from the CS6 Photoshop essential skills CD using the supplied images. When I am using the refine edge tool and going over the areas around the hair of my subject, my selections appear as they do in the tutorial but as soon as I let go of my mouse the selection disappears and no hair strands appear. If I zoom right in, I can sometimes see some of the strands but its as if the opacity on the selection has been decreased and the image is faded. Then, if I zoom in and out my selections appear then disappear. It definitely seems as if its a bug or something not right.

    Are you viewing at 100%? If not the change may not show. Otherwise reset the Refine Edge dialog to default and try again.
    If this doesn't fix it try resetting your preferences as described in the FAQ.
    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.ef4a07f/1
    You either have to physically delete (or rename) the preference files or, if using the Alt, Ctrl, and Shift method, be sure that you get a confirmation dialog.
    This resets all settings in Photoshop to factory defaults.
    A complete uninstall/re-install will not affect the preferences and a corrupt file there may be causing the problem.

  • Refine Edge Freezes Photoshop CC

    Hi. I've been using Photoshop CC for a couple of months now with no issues. I've used the Refine Edge ability many many times and had no issues. I recently changed the "view" in refine edge to overlay mode, and did some work with that dialogue yesterday and everything was fine. Since then, whenever I open Refine edge, the entire application freezes, and I have to terminate Photoshop in the windows task manager.
    The video card driver is up to date, and there have been no other changes to my computer that I know of. I've actually uninstalled and reinstalled PS, and the same problem persists.
    What could be causing this freeze and how do I solve this?
    I am using a Windows 7 Enterprise machine, 64 bit, 16GB RAM, dual monitor set up with Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti

    As a follow up, I think I've narrowed down the issue a bit - I reset preferences in Photoshop, which reverted my setting in Refine Edge back to a default viewing more which was not overlay view. This seemed to work fine (i.e. PS did not freeze up). However, if I switched to overlay view, part of my workspace (a square or rectangle) would turn red (as its supposed to), and the rest would not. Plus, PS will freeze up. Thus, the freezing problem seems to be related to using overlay mode in refine edge. It just - becomes too much to handle, for lack of a better term.
    Anyone have any thoughts?

  • Refine Edge Problem - Tool Won't Work

    Hi there,
    I have a problem with the Refine Edge tool in Photoshop CS3.
    I make my selection, press "Refine Edge", make the changes I require and the preview shows everything is fine.
    I click "OK", the Refine Edge box disappears and my changes do as well! The only difference is that my original selection area has decreased (I'm no pro, but it looks as though the edges have been feathered.)
    I have no other layers except for the duplicated background.
    I have tried older Photoshop files and this tool does not work for them either - even though I have used Refine Edge at work successfully before, but this was on another computer.
    Perhaps I have accidentally adjusted a setting?
    Please help, this is driving me crazy!
    Thanks!

    Are you viewing at 100%? If not the change may not show. Otherwise reset the Refine Edge dialog to default and try again.
    If this doesn't fix it try resetting your preferences as described in the FAQ.
    http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.ef4a07f/1
    You either have to physically delete (or rename) the preference files or, if using the Alt, Ctrl, and Shift method, be sure that you get a confirmation dialog.
    This resets all settings in Photoshop to factory defaults.
    A complete uninstall/re-install will not affect the preferences and a corrupt file there may be causing the problem.

  • Edge feather export problem?

    Hello
    Im having trouble with an export in cc 2014.
    I have applied the edge feather effect to a resized clip.
    When it exports the edge feather is dropped and I am left wit an ugly box with no soft edges.
    Any idea?
    Kind regards
    Philip

    Make a custom gradient that goes from black on the left to white on the right. Adjust the gradient so it's a soft transition from one side to the other the way you wold like. Put it on a new layer between the background and top layer. To the clip on the top layer apply Composite Mode>Travel Matte Luma. Adjust the gradient layer to control the transparency of the layer on top.

  • Getting poor results with Refine Edge tool

    Not sure if anyone else has run into this issue. But after following numerous tutorials on lynda.com as well as tv.adobe.com and youtube, I just can't get good selection results using the Refine Edge tool in Photoshop CC and I'm convinced it's something I'm doing wrong, but I have no idea what.
    After downloading this Wikipedia image of Bismarck for a history documentary, I tried isolating the figure from the background using Refine Edge and keep getting poor results. Maybe it's my settings, I'm just not sure. But after painting over my edges, I end up with terrible results. Unfortunately, I'm getting poor results with other images as well. Can anyone venture to guess what I might be doing wrong? Thanks very much in advance.

    Hi ninose11,
    For this type of project and idea, I would recommend trying some of the magnetic lasso tool. The tool is located as the third tool in the toolbar (you should see a lasso or rope looking icon), hold down the icon and it should expand - then select the magnetic lasso tool. The magnetic lasso tool will allow you to scroll over the edge of his profile and it will automatically detect the outline edges. The slower you roll-over the shape the higher the accuracy will be. If the magnet is not detecting a particular edge or sharp corner (for example, the ear) you can manually drop points by simply right-clicking at any point during the selection. If the edge is too sharp, you can also create a light feather which will blend the edge softly (this should be located at the top).
    If this is unsuccessful still, you can try selecting by color, using the Magnetic Wand Tool (forth icon in the toolbar, again hold down for all options). Once you are using the magnetic wand tool, you should be able to select all the black areas of the background to delete. You can increase or decrease the tolerance to change the sensitivity of the selection.
    Hope this helps!

  • Refine edge and edge detection serious issues, getting blurred and lots of contamination

    Hi guys :)
    a few months back I bought a grey background after being reccomended as being easier to do compositing, I was really pleased but now I have run into some big issues and was wondering if you could spare a few moments to help me out. so I've taken the image of my model on the grey background, the model has white blonde hair, simillar to this image here, http://ophelias-overdose.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=192#/d393ia7.
    Now what I have been doing is using the quick select tool, then refine edge, when I get to refine edge that's when the issues start for me, when I'm trying to pick up the stray hairs around the model to bring them back into the picture, I'm finding that the hair,when it does come back into the picture is quite washed out and faded, and almost like it has been re painted by Photoshop CS 5 instead of being brought back into the picture, when I paint over the areas with the edge detection tool. Also, even if I check the decontaminate colour box, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference!!
    I'm on a bit of a deadline and am so alarmed I'm getting these issues with the grey background, how are these problems occurring?? can you please give me some idea, I would be really greatful. I have been you tubing, and going over tutorials and reading books to NO avail :(
    I just keep getting this issue, even when I have tried editing a test picture from a google search of a model with brown hair! Still getting this issue.
    this tool is supposed to be amazing, I'm not expecting amazing but I'm atleast expecting it to not look like a bad blurred paint job, with contamination.
    really greatful, thanks :)
    M

    Hi Noel,
    Thank you for the reply. I have attached some screen shots for you.
    Im working with high resolution photos in NEF, I am trying to put the model into a darker background but i havent even got that far as I cant even cut her out.
    Decontaminate doesnt seem to be working at all to be honest, it makes little difference when i check that box.
    Im getting nothing close to the image of the Lion, thats brilliant!
    This is the original image taken on a Calumet grey backdrop
    And this is what I keep getting results wise, see around the hair there is still rather a lot of grey contamination and the hair literlly looks painted and smudged.

  • Firefox users cannot presently exercise choice, to opt-in or out of "data collected for improving services." As a result, Firefox is constantly dialing home, sometimes four times a day or more up to 48 times a day. There is some over-stepping and redunda

    I understand the charter on this is to "check-in" once every time the program is turned on, and then once every 6 hours after that, or, once every 24 hours presumably. But the phone-home-effect is over-stepping these basic parameters. If a user turns their browser off and then on, Firefox is still obligated to "check-in" even if it just checked in 3 minutes prior. If the coding is not pre-designed to overstep, or act excessively in a redundant focus, the instance of once every six hours or once every 24 hours, is still overmuch if a user has been doing this (non-voluntarily-participating) for 9 months or longer.
    == This happened ==
    Every time Firefox opened
    == This started when Firefox took up the initiative of "improving service. to end users" or similar idea, making the web safer for novice users, etcetera.

    Opening question was truncated. Should read: "Firefox users cannot presently exercise choice, to opt-in or out of "data collected for improving services." As a result, Firefox is constantly dialing home, sometimes four times a day or more up to 48 times a day. There is some over-stepping and redundancy here. It would seem the practice of "improving service" has been accomplished with as much information as Mozilla has gathered in the last 6-18 months about its users habits. '''Isnt it about time to give users the option to opt out of that now that most the heavy liftiing has been accomplished?'''"

  • PS CC 2014 how to get better results from refine edge

    In the attached image below you will see "Jesus on the cross" which I want to substitute a new background. On the left is a portion of the unselected image and on the right is the best result I can get via refine edge tool. I have tried all the usual methods such as channels, increasing contrats etc but this is the best I can get. The top thorns had the same problem but what you see now is an hour of manual selection. How do I get a better result - why is it that when the rfine edge brush is swept over such it often only produces transparent results?

    I am keep working on this problem today.
    I tried Particle Analysis, the result is un-repeatable either. But when I decide to find Straight edge direct from source image,without any process,the angle is more repeatable,Max deviation is 0.03-0.06 degree.It seems my process to the image make thing worse.Then I found the algorithm to find straight is something like linear fit : find all the edge points,linear fit and calculate the angle.
    So I run my program for images those pixel resolution is 1280*960,the Max deviation is much lower: 0.008 degree.
    If I am right,the best resolution to my problem is to change my camera to higher resolution.
    Any advises is appreciate! Thank you!

  • How to get the best results using the refine edge tool?

    how to use the sliders in the refine edge tool? how do you get the best results using the fine edge tool?

    You should ask in the forum for the (un-named) program you are using
    The Cloud forum is not about using individual programs
    The Cloud forum is about the Cloud as a delivery & install process
    If you will start at the Forums Index https://forums.adobe.com/welcome
    You will be able to select a forum for the specific Adobe product(s) you use
    Click the "down arrow" symbol on the right (where it says All communities) to open the drop down list and scroll

  • Feathering and Refine Edge Tool will not work.

    I am working correctly and selecting pixels correctly, but when I try to feather or use the refine edge tool, none of the changes are saved.  For $40. Adobe thinks that they can solve this problem, but after paying $2500. for the CS4 Master Suites, I think this is excessive.  Is there ANYBODY out there who knows how they're going to magically obviate these issues remotely?  Any clues?

    I think you may still not grasp what a Selection does – but I could be wrong.
    You can feather a Selection, but unless you base some operation on that Selection it has no bearing on the pixels in an image.
    A Layer Mask on the other hand can be filtered or edited in the Masks Panel or …

  • Refine Edge and Feathering?

    In CS5:
    I used the Quick Selection tool to make a selection and then I want to feather it, though there does not seem to be an option to do this
    1. Is that because it works instead with the new Refine Edge option?
    2. What is refine edge doing? Is it doing something similar to feathering the selected image?
    3. And, with the lasso tool, how do you use both the feathering option and the Refine Edge option?
    Thanks.

    1. try 'SELECT > MODIFY > FEATHER'

  • I have an iphone 4 jammed in MDU mode, I conect to itunes and asked to restore, it went through all the steps and nearly completed it gives me an error message saying cannot be restored error -1.  Can anybody help me how to restore my iphone

    I have an iphone 4 started the problem saying no service, then when restarting asked to connect to itunes and became jammed in MDU mode, I connect to itunes and clicked on  restore, it went through all the steps and nearly completed it gives me an error message saying cannot be restored error -1.  Can anybody help me how to restore my iphone.  or what to do next, some reseller asked me to go the shop where I bought to replace it for me as this error cannot be restored by any shop.  It has to be returned to apple and get it replaced.  The warranty already expired and don't know what to do.
    Please help

    Error 1 or -1
    This may indicate a hardware issue with your device. Follow Troubleshooting security software issues, and restore your device on a different known-good computer. If the errors persist on another computer, the device may need service.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3694#error1

Maybe you are looking for

  • Can you work on the same iweb page on 2 different computers?

    hi, i usually work on my imac doing my iweb pages, i would like to work on a second ibook that is in the house. i've tried and tried but can't find a way for the ibook one to pick up the pages. it has the same .mac idisk folder as the other mac with

  • Database Upgrade using Data Pump

    Hi, I am moving my database from a Windows 2003 server to a Windows 2007 server. At the same time I am upgrading this database from 10g to 11gR2(11.2.0.3). therefore I am using the export / import method of upgrade ( via Data Pump not the old exp/imp

  • Free up to date programme

    Hi, I submitted my claim for the OSX 10.8 as part of the up to date progaremme on Wednesday night (25 July) as I purchased my Macbook Pro on 1st of July. Till today (29 July) I didnt received any news from Apple. I bought my Mac from Saudi Arabia.

  • Convert java.sql.Date to java.util.Date

    How do i convert a java.sql.Date to java.util.Date ? SimpleDateFormat formatter = new SimpleDateFormat ("dd/MM/yy HH:mm"); Date received=myresultset.getDate(1); String utildate = formatter.format(received); <%=utildate%> Result : doesn't keep the HH:

  • Pse 10 editor problem

    After editing a picture in pse 10 then saving it the white boarder around the photo disappears. HELP. I'm using a mac 10.7