Regarding business service

Hi
since for business service we dont configure in sld how will the xi recognize the business service and how will it fetch data from the service
regards
raghu

Hi Raghu,
A business service represents an abstract unit for addressing message senders and message receivers. You can use a business service to group interfaces.
It is useful to use business services when configuring cross-company processes. Usually, the interface descriptions of the business partners involved are made publicly available. The system landscape is only partly known, however.
And also refer:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/c7/301640033ae569e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
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Sai
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hi,
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and
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Hi Sunil,
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Hi just check this Bolg for Help
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