Regarding copa

Hi All
Experts.. & PradipPatil
I am Having Doudts Regarding Copa
what Is Accout Based Copa and Costbased Copa ?
Wht the main diffrence between Them ?
In which Scenerion We will choose Accunntbased & costbased
Please Clarify Me
I had Studied some docs Related that Stil have some confuision.
cheers
Purushottam
Points will be Assigned

Hi ,
COPA Accounting based is for seeing at abstract level
COPA costing based is the detailed level,
90% we go for costing based only
COPA Accounting is based on Account numbers,
COPA Cost accounting is based on cost centers.
Renjith

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When I am running a refurbishment process in IDES system is taking the GL a/c 895000- Factory output of production when I take the refurbishable material from store and return to inventory.
My question is whether all the financial posting done here for refurbishable material should be reflected to COPA report or not?
If yes, I am unable to see this particular G/L account posting in COPA. What could be the reason?
Regards
DP.

Hi
Whether it is right G/l,
It's depends on you & your fico & client team.
If this account exclusively defined for refurbished material,then it is right and if this g/l is defined for any other transaction then it wrong one.
Now Related to COPA entries,
Settle the order for which you are consuming this material by KO88, (Remove tick mark of TEST RUN)
Go to details>>>Accounting document>>>double click on Profitability analysis
and see values are updated in Cost field or not.
Kapil
Edited by: Kapildev Farakte on Nov 25, 2009 11:18 AM
Edited by: Kapildev Farakte on Nov 25, 2009 11:20 AM

Regarding COPA extraction

Hi All,
We have created a datasource for COPA(Account Based), used generic InfoCube, replicated DataSources and created TR and UR.
The data is available in R/3. But when we are checking the data in RSA3. Obviously, we are unable to extract the data to BW. Can anybody provide us with a solution for this situation.
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YJ

Hi PRK,
First of all thank you for your interest.
Let me explain you clearly:
When I am extracting the data using Extractor Checker, first I am receiving the following error:
'Make an entry into all the required fields'
Next I entered the values for 'Controlling Area', 'Company Code' and 'Period/year'(I had entered the correct date format).
Next I am receiving the following error:
'Errors occured during extraction'
I will be thankful for your help.
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YJ

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How to see the data source for a field in ecc and relavant infobject of that field in bi. If any one knows please let me know.
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DD03L table will give you the table name if you input the field name.After that you can use where used list to find which all places that table is being used.
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AL:

Regarding COPA DATA

We have loaded the DSO you have created in GWD. However there is some issue, so wondering
Issue : When we do a full load to DSO, many of the fields are not getting populated whereas if I do a delta init load with data , it brings data. Please note we need to give the number range in the infopackage for BELNR always. You can check this issue in the PSA itself. Do not need to run DTP and send it to ODS.
Can you search and investiage the COPA extractor ( 1_CO_PA_*) we are using and see any suggestions or understand bewteen FULL and DELTA from COPA extractor
Guys can u help me in this one
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vijju

Hi
CO-PA DataSources cannot be enhanced using the standard SAP BW tools. If you adjust the operating concern (by adding or deleting characteristics or value fields), it is then no longer possible to simply edit the DataSource. You have to delete the DataSource and then create it again.
Try the following Note:
0408366 Simulation of the delta method initialization
0502380 Information: Delta method for CO-PA extraction
0546238 Change of the mandatory field PERIO in the selection
0571853 Incorrect data during delta upload for account-based CO-PA
Delta / Init is not possible with all Fields with CO-PA try to see the SAP Note 546238 for the delta enabled fields.
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Copies of a Project - still the same in Portal

Dear SDN,
me and my team are facing a problem regarding copies of a WD Project.
We have tried to make different copies of the same Project (one per programmer), in order to avoid conflicts while deploying and testing.
(Unfortunatly we have to work in the same project, because the Components are integrated).
But once in the portal, it is still the same, even with different names.
E.g., when I make some modification and deploy, the other pregrammer see my modifications in its version of the Project.
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Deleteing Characteristic/Value field in COPA

Hi
How to delete a characteristic or valuefield from existing operating concern.?
Thanks,
Santosh

Hi Santoshreddy,
As far as my experiences is concerned, once a value fields and/or characteristics has been created it cannot be deleted if the characteristic has been used in the operating concern. Therefore this means no postings had already triggered the COPA using such characteristic. Instead of deleting a characteristic, you can change the config through KEQ3 wherein you would limit its use or make no use of it at all. Pick the radiobutton that you desire.
For more details regarding COPA details please refer at this link.. http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/c6/f22c7dd435d1118b3f0060b03ca329/frameset.htm
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COPA archiving

Hi Experts
I am having few questions regarding COPA archiving objects:
1. what are differences between archiving objects COPA1_xxxx and COPAA_xxxx, COPAB_xxxx.
I have found the SAP recomendation that to use archiving object COPA1_xxxx is not recommended. But there is no ohter explanation why to use COPAA_xxxx and COPAB_xxxx.
2. Is it possible to archive by the COPAC_xxxx (archiving of segments) archiving object if I use COPA1_xxxx?
Thanks
Barbora

Dear Barbora,
When an operating concern (xxxx) is generated in CO-PA, the following archiving objects are generated.
u2022 COPA1_xxxx for the accrued operating concern
u2022 COPAA_xxxx
u2022 COPAB_xxxx
u2022 COPA1_xxxx
u2022 COPA2_xxxx for account-based Profitability Analysis
For profitability segments: COPAC_xxxx
Archiving objects COPAA_xxxx and COPAB_xxxx have replaced archiving object COPA1_xxxx.
Although it is still possible to use the archiving object COPA1_xxxx, SAP recommends that you only use the new archiving objects, as they are the standard archiving objects used now. For example, Customizing activity is available only for the new archiving objects in IMG in newer versions.
Also, if you implement SAP Note 383728 you can use the generated archiving objects COPA1_xxx and COPA2_xxx to archive Profitability Analysis objects from tables CE4xxxx
When a line item in Profitability Analysis is updated,
An entry is inserted in the table CE1xxxx,
A newly formed results object is entered in table CE4xxxx, and
The related totals record is updated in table CE3xxxx.
As of SAP R/3 4.5 you have an additional table called CE4xxxx_ACCT. It contains the detailed account assignment information and can grow a lot faster than the actual database table CE4xxxx. For more information see SAP Note 199467.
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COPA Reconciliation

Hello,
I have some questions regarding COPA.I am want guidlines how to trace whether all expenses in FI are going on COPA so that FI profit can be
reconciled with COPA profit.
1 In case of Overall Cost variance of Std cost to Actual Cost of Production Order. this is getting posted to COPA.
2 IN this variance actual expenses for Direct OH coming via Activity Prices is getting considred as Actual by way of Revaluation of Production Order or
by way of assessmment of Direct Production Cost centere which are assigned to Work centre.
3 Now I have doubt How the Actual Cost of Indirect Ovehead which coming via Cost Sheet could be captured at actual. genearally this Cost is creadited to
Internal Order or Cost Centre in Cost Sheet, but actualy there could be different cost center where this coust would be booked.
So Assessment could nto helpt to capture actual booking.
So please guide me how this are geneally treated to give effect of actual booking to COPA.
Please help to understand treatement of Indirect Overehad.
Thanks
Harry

Hello,
I have some questions regarding COPA.I am want guidlines how to trace whether all expenses in FI are going on COPA so that FI profit can be
reconciled with COPA profit.
1 In case of Overall Cost variance of Std cost to Actual Cost of Production Order. this is getting posted to COPA.
2 IN this variance actual expenses for Direct OH coming via Activity Prices is getting considred as Actual by way of Revaluation of Production Order or
by way of assessmment of Direct Production Cost centere which are assigned to Work centre.
3 Now I have doubt How the Actual Cost of Indirect Ovehead which coming via Cost Sheet could be captured at actual. genearally this Cost is creadited to
Internal Order or Cost Centre in Cost Sheet, but actualy there could be different cost center where this coust would be booked.
So Assessment could nto helpt to capture actual booking.
So please guide me how this are geneally treated to give effect of actual booking to COPA.
Please help to understand treatement of Indirect Overehad.
Thanks
Harry

COPA Reconciliation & Treatment of OH

Hello,
I have some questions regarding COPA.I am want guidlines how to trace whether all expenses in FI are going on COPA so that FI profit can be
reconciled with COPA profit.
1 In case of Overall Cost variance of Std cost to Actual Cost of Production Order. this is getting posted to COPA.
2 IN this variance actual expenses for Direct OH coming via Activity Prices is getting considred as Actual by way of Revaluation of Production Order or
by way of assessmment of Direct Production Cost centere which are assigned to Work centre.
3 Now I have doubt How the Actual Cost of Indirect Ovehead which coming via Cost Sheet could be captured at actual. genearally this Cost is creadited to
Internal Order or Cost Centre in Cost Sheet, but actualy there could be different cost center where this coust would be booked.
So Assessment could nto helpt to capture actual booking.
So please guide me how this are geneally treated to give effect of actual booking to COPA.
Please help to understand treatement of Indirect Overehad.
Thanks
Harry

Hello Ajay,
Thanks for your valuable feedback.
My explanation is as follows
1   Cost sheet is (Where we need to maitain Base as Cost Element, OH rate & Credit for % dependant OH )
                          Mat Cost   - Based on Mat & BOM - Mat Consumption account
                           Dir OH    - Based on Activity Rates & Routing - Secondary Cost Element
                           Admin/ Ind OH - Based on % of Dir OH - Credit will be Cost center
2 Out of above Mat Cost & Dir OH will go to Production order as per actual material issue and activity confirmation.
3 But Adm/ Ind OH will be calculated by CO43 t code. This time credit will go to the Credit assigned in Cost sheet for this Indirect OH.
4 Actually above CC assiged is just received of credit in production order and there will be varuous admin CC where this cost will be booked. As you said this cc should be same as actual but we are making only one entry in cost sheet of Credit receiver, so we cant entry all the actual Cost center where cost will be booked.
5 Hence Please suggest whethere we need to settle this Credit Cost Object ie Cost CEnter assigned in Cost Sheet to COPA and also do assessment of Actually Booked Center to COPA. And is there chance of repeatation of this expenses.
Thanks.
Harry

COPA Billing document

Hello Experts,
We encounted an issue regarding COPA if we look at the Sales order Item level here we have created 5 line items out of that, 3 line items Profit segment has updated with the correct values Product, billing type, sales org, profit center. etc.,
However if we look at 2 line items of the sales order profit segment is BLANK..
could you please guide us how to investigate further.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Regards,
satish.

Hi Ajay,
As per your instructions i have verified AAG as been assigned in Material master, and however i have checked in VKOA
the sales deduction General Account was not assigned to AAG group category , this is the reason for not updating Prof. Seg document in the order...
iF yes kindy give me your explaination it would be great to here from you.
Thanks a lot...
With Best Regards,
Satish.

COPA for 10 company code out of 14 company codes

Hi Experts,
I have one query regarding COPA. My one of the client want to implement COPA for 10 company code out of 14 company code of the company and all this 14 company codes come under single controlling area. And now client want to implement the COPA for 10 company codes.
So my query is
1 Whether it is possible to implement COPA for 10 company codes only?
2 If it can be possible then which are the probable precautions to be taken. And also which are the challenges can be faced in this?
Thanks & Regards
Sri

Hi Ajay
Sorry for inconvenience because closed issue again I am re opening
Could you please give some additional input about the user exit
Because my abapers put break point even though it is not triggering that stage
I am getting the below error message non relevant copa company code
Prof.segment for prim.cost elements not advisable for costing-based CO-PA
Message no. KI183
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Sri

COPA Enduser documents required

Hello,
I need enduser documentation regarding COPA.
Can anybody help on this?
Your help is apreciable.
Thank you,
Regards,
Santosh

Hi Santosh,
Good evening and greetings,
Please go through the following link
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/COPA/COPA.pdf
As you know that CO-PA is only a reporting module nothing as such called user manual and it is more technical only...Please go through the above document and am confident that it will meet your requirement.
Please reward points if found useful
Thanking you
With kindest regards
Ramesh Padmanabhan

COPA Query

Hello,
I have one query regarding COPA. My one of the client want to implement COPA for 2 company code out of 9 company code of the company and all this 9 company codes come under single controlling area. And now client want to implement the COPA for 2 company codes.
So my query is
1 Whether it is possible to implement COPA for 2 company codes only?
2 If it can be possible then which are the probable precautions to be taken. And also which are the challenges can be faced in this?
Thanks in advance for the help.

Hi Hari Gore,
On the face of it, it is not possible to go for COPA for only two company codes in your case.
Operating Concern is next level of Controlling Area. We can assign CO Area to Op Concern but not Company Codes directly. (Similar example you can take for Plant and Controlling Area. You assign Plants to Company Code and Company Codes to Controlling Area. We don't assign Plants directly to Controlling Area)
But pls explain me...when you said, all the 9 company codes are under same controlling area, then what is the problem of going for COPA for all 9 company codes? I would like to know why you client is looking for only 2 company codes. Except the technical reasons like no. of line items posted will be more, I don't see any reason or difference between going for 2 company codes and 9 company codes...
Pls revert back for further discussion...
Srikanth Munnaluri
Edited by: Srikanth Munnaluri on Mar 4, 2009 11:30 PM

Why do I get order lines transferred to COPA but no contract lines?

Hello Experts,
Regarding COPA I do get order lines transferred to COPA but no contract lines. I thought that with transaction "activate incoming sales orders" in customizing, both types of lines would be transferred to COPA. Is there another setting which should be made for contract lines in particular?
Looking dforward to your reply,
Best regards,
Stephan

Hi Ram,
I do get contract lines to COPA now but with the billing date from the contract as posting date in ke24. Is it possible to the posting date similar to the contract start date?
Or isn't it because it should be equal to FI posting dates?
I posted another question to you on this forum in which I had an issue with contract lines that flow to COPA but also to the billing due list. Here I wanted to prevent the flow to the billing due list. Or is this also not possible?
Would appreciate your advice very much.
Best regards,
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