Regarding ORG Management Position & Job

My Client Requirement is....
They dont want to maintain Job at the time of creating position...
Asfar as my knowledge is concerned For creating position Job is mandatory...
If i want to customize Will it will effect SAP standard tables and reporting....
could you please clarify and let me know how can i do that

Asfar as my knowledge is concerned For creating position Job is mandatory...
No , Job is not mandatory for maintaining the Position
If i want to customize Will it will effect SAP standard tables and reporting.... ?
there will be no effect if you go only for Customisation of Positions without job. the only issue will come in Reports

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HR report/tranzaction on current and past org unit, position, job

Hi,
Does anyone know the code of the standard report / tranzaction to show the current and the past org unit, position and job for an employee?
Thank you
Adriana

Hi Adriana!
Please try using Headcount Changes report S_L9C_94000095.
Regards!
Woody.

Naming convention of Org Units, Position

What is the naming convention used for Org Units, Positions, Jobs and other OM objects. Pls send document if any of you have.
Max points promised!

Namming conventions are made based on the company strategry. That means it varies from one organisation to another. I can find one convention which is availabe in net.
http://www.jhu.edu/hopkinsone/Secure_Private/Library/Blueprint/HumanResources_Sect9_18.pdf#search=%22sap%20hr%20Org%20Units%20Jobs%20Positions%20naming%20conventions%22
~thomas

Org managament -Cost Center- Position

Hi Experts,
There is a clarification required, I am creating Jobs,Positions from 01.01.1900 upto 31.12.9999 and the FI consultant has created his Cost centers mentioning the date as 01.04.2009. As se says that I need to mantain the cost center creation dates only 1 year prior to GO-LIVE date.
Now the problem is when I am creating one of the Positions in the Account Assignment tab details and its Cost distribution tab in Org Managment with PPOCE transaction, by assigning the positions relevent Cost Center where he falls to....the system throws and error stating that Cost Center not maintained on 01.01.1900 as it is the matter of that cost centers have been created only from 01.04.2009.
So, now can any of you let me know how myself and FI consultant need to resolve this issue?
Best Regards,
KishoreJ.

Hi,
So, I would go ahead and create Jobs & Positions according to Cost Center dates. Can you please clarify me with one thing is
Now If I create the Jobs & Position of the date from which Cost Centers have been created in my case 01.04.2009, will I be able to hire an employee with the created Jobs & Positions with previous date like for example an employee is working with Organization from 01.01.2003 till date as when I do hiringaction, system asks me for joining date, so mentioning his joinning date as 01.01.2003 and maintain all the Org data with Account Assignment, Cost Distribution as per the relevent dates.
Thank You,
KishoreJ.

CREATION OF JOB IN ORG MANAGEMENT

HI ALL,
IN CRM 5.0 WHEN I M CRETING ORG MANAGEMENT AND ASSIGNING A POSITION THERE IS A FIELD AS JOB IN NBASIC DATA.IF I WANT TO GIVE ANY JOB SHOULD I DEFINE THAT JOB OR SIMPLY I CAN WRITE THAT JOB IN THAT FIELD. IF I WILL CREATE FIRST HOW CAN I DEFINE THAT JOB.
SECOND THING WHEN I MAINTAIN ORG UNIT IN CRM 5.0 AND CREATE SALES OFFICE I GET AN ERROR LIKE Maintain attribute IS_SA_ORG first
HOW CAN I SOLVE THAT MESSAGE.
THANX IN ADVANCE
CHINU

HI PRATIK,
THANKS FOR GIVING THE CORRECT ANSWER. I HAVE ASSIGNED THE FULL POINT. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. I M GIVING THE DESCRIPTION OF THIS.
as per my requirement I created a role as Pharmacy by coping Hospital and I assigned the views in BUSD ( dataset,BP View -> Calling Applications,BP View ->Screen Sequences,BP View -> Views). Still when I m going to field grouping in spro,cac and field grouping it is throwing a message as System unable to determine any relevant views. Can any body suggest me where i did wrong.
CAN U SUGGEST THIS. EVEN IF I HAVE POSTED THIS QUESTION ON THIS THREAD.
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Assignment of territories via HR position in Org Management

Hi
How are Territories assigned to the employee via HR position in Org management? In Org management we have Org units and sales orgs and how can be territories?
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Tarang

Hello Tarang,
you can create the position via transaction PPOMA_CRM. Then you assign the position to an org unit.
When maintaining the position you see tab 'Areas'. Here you can assign the territory for a certain validity.
Finally you can assign employee(s) to the position. Technically the employee is a Business Partner in role 'employee'.
So a typical representation in OrgManagement could look like this:
OrgUnit
-> Position1 -> Territory1
     -> Employee1
     -> Employee2
-> Position2 -> Territory2
     -> Employee3
Kind regards
Ralf

Assigning Finance manager position to a cost center in Org. Unit.

Hi Guys,
How to Assign Finance manager position to a cost center in Org. Unit.
I am using this assignment in a workflow, selecting finance manager from table HRP1001.
Thanks
Senthil

Senthil
We dont assign the Cost Centre to positon directly
We assign the Cost Centre to the Org Unit
later while assigning the Position to the Org Unit the cost Centre will auotmatically gets defaul to Positions which belongs to that Org Unit
try thru tcode PP01 give ur Object id of ur org unit and select Cost Centre Assigment infotype gibve the dates
ther give the Relationship A 011 and select ur Cost Centre (K)
or u can also do thru Expert Mode P010 also
Check this one and let me know if there is anything else
Edited by: Sikindar on Apr 8, 2009 8:34 AM
Edited by: Sikindar on Apr 8, 2009 8:34 AM

Org Management Implementation

Hi Gurus
I am working in an implementation project and Organisational Management is new for me.
I have received the om template like org unit,position & reporting structure from client.
can any body suggest me how to proceed.
Your suggestion will be highly appreciable.
Thanks in advance
Swadhin

HI
HAVE A LOOK INTO THIS
ORGANISATION MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS FOR A CLIENT
Organisation Management Requirement     SAP Mapping
List of Directorates, Departments, Offices, Depots & Stations     Organisation Units
List of cost centres and how they are assigned to Directorates, Departments, Offices, Depots & Stations     Cost Centre assignment to Organisation Units
Definition of the Departmental Structure u2013 Directorates, Departments, Offices, Depots & Stations     The reporting structure of Organisation Units
Definition of Syndicate Groups     Work Centres
Recording of Office, Station & Depot postal address     Addresses
List of positions, including vacancies for each Directorate, Department, Office, Depot & Station.      Positions
List of Cost Centres alloted for individual employees i.e. not held at Directorate, Departmental, Office, Depot or Station level.     Cost Centre assignment to Positions.
List of employees who manage other employees e.g. Directors, Managers, Supervisors, Team Leaders     Chief Positions
Reporting structure u2013 who reports to whom.     Position Reporting Structure
List of which positions belong to each Directorate, Department, Office, Depot & Station     Positions belonging to Organisation Units
List of positions and the employees assigned to them.     Employees holding Positions
List of positions, grade and associated salary.     Planned Compensation linked to Positions
List of positions and their Job Evaluation score (if it is different from that for the u2018Jobu2019)     Job Evaluation Results
List of positions and the area of the business they belongs to e.g. BP Corporate, Street Management, Public Carriage Office, London Underground, etc     Account Assignment Features of Positions
List of positions and what type of employee they would be assigned to e.g. Directors, Senior Managers, Managers, 1st Line Managers, Supervisors, Operational Staff, Admin./ Techn. Staff     Employee Group / Subgroup linked to positions.
List of vacancies     Vacant Positions
List of positions and their required Qualifications, Behaviours, Experience, Competencies, Knowledge, Skills.     Qualifications required by Positions.
Definition of computer system security & access.     Roles, PD Profiles & Structural Authorisations linked to Positions.
List of Job Descriptions.      Jobs
List of Job descriptions and the positions they are associated with.     Jobs and which Positions are described by them.
The grade and salary associated with a Job Description.     Planned Compensation linked to Jobs
The Job Evaluation score for a Job Description.     Job Evaluation Results
Qualifications Experience, Competencies, Behaviours, Knowledge, Skills contained within a Job Description.     Qualifications required by Jobs/Qualifications Profile
Installation of a piece of software called Org. Publisher to publish Organisation Charts.      Org. Publisher
Link Skills, Knowledge, Behaviours, Experience, Competencies and Qualifications to employee records.     Employee Qualifications Profile
Definition of how managers will access and maintain data held within the system.     Managers Self-Service
Definition of how the tasks will be distributed using the computer system.     Workflow
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Org.Management Infotypes..

Hi Experts..
Could you please tell me where we use Org.Management infotypes(IT1000 to1999)
Thanks in advance.

OM infotypes are those in which we store all the information regarding all organization attributes, activities etc.. e.g
Position is related to organization so we maintain it in OM infotypes..
in 1000, we maintain its name and long text .. in 1001 we maintain relationship of position with other OM attributes i.e. Org Unit, Job, Business Area etc.
We maintain 1000 and 1001 infotypes for all OM objects...
but other Infotypes may vary depending upon their attributes..
e.g. IT 1007 is maintained for Job.. whether it is vacant or not..
similarly IT 1610 is used for US Job attributes... we can maintain only attributes here not position and others.
Reward if useful
regards
Pradeep

Org. Unit & Job Code not diplayed in IT0001

Dear Consultants
I have a problem which is the Org. unit and job codes are not displayed in IT0001 although I did the following:
-     Integration between PA and OM in T. Code OOPS was set in PLOGI ORGA first.
-     Structure was created using PPOCE and PPOME then we hire employees through PA40 through LSMW.
-     The employee hire date and the date of creating O,S, and C is the same.
-     The data of Company code Personnel area and sub area was recorded in account assignment tab in Organization and Staffing when creating the structure and positions.
-      After loading the Employee data I run the report RHINTE00 and the employees displayed in PPOME.
-     Then I run report RHINTECHECK and there are no issues.
-     Then when I see that Org. Unite code and Job Code are not displayed in IT0001 I report RHINTE30 but he said (Personnel numbers for which an update is not necessary) and still Org. unit and job code is not there in IT0001.
Is there anything else I can do to solve that problem?
Regards
Khaled

Dear Khaled,
please run the report
RHINTE20 Create missing objects (OM or PA)
RHINTE30 Transfer Org. assignment in batch input folder for infotype
Best Regards,
Deepak.

OM - Multiple Cost Centres link with Org Unit/Position not to employee

Hello gurus,
In OM there can only be one relationship at a time between an organizational unit and cost centre (A011). For those areas where there is a requirement for the position to have control over more than one cost centre, there are multiple options.
Option 1 - If only one of the cost centres is used for employee cost incurrence, this should be the main cost centre, and the others controlled through authorizations.
Option 2 - If more than one cost centre is used for employee cost incurrence, a subordinate organizational unit is created into which those positions are placed. In this scenario, the subordinate organizational units would not have a chief, and the reporting structure would go up to the more senior organizational units.
Option 3 - Use Cost centre distribution infotype 1018 (A014)
My question: is there a standard way through which we can show multiple cost centres attached to a position/org unit such that cost incurred by employees goes to master cost centre attached to org unit or positon and other cost centres are just attached to position/orgunit (just to show the org unit/position is managing these other cost centres as well).
Any thoughts? Anybody has used Enterprise Organization in CO to achieve this?
Regards,
Ahmad

To capture more than 1 cost center, you have to specify them in IT-1018 but employee's cost will be split based on this.
For data maintanance alone cost distribution is not possible (based on my knowledge).
May be equivalent custom infotype similar to 1018 @ Postiion / Org Unit level may work.
along with Master Cost center.

Relation ships in Org management

Hi Every one,
My first question is regarding maintaing org management relation ships .How we maintain relation ships between persons(s) in development system coz there will be no data available in development system.????
My second question is ,For example I created org unit A ,Org Unit B ,i assigned a position sr clerk to org unit A and sr Clerk to Org unit B. .Now my question is position in org unit B should reports to position in org unit A..and .how their relation ships are maintained????

Hi,
1. I think u got the solution for the first one from amit,
2. This can be done using expert mode.kindly do the senario which u told and create relationship as u told which is possible here.
kindly check out and let me know if u have any concern.
Asha

Default Relationships in Org Management

Hello All...
I am having a big issue with the defaults of Org Management relationships. For some reason, our installation does NOT allow me to automatically create positions dependent on other positions...like 'is supervised by' relationship between positions. I have tried creating manually, and have checked the IMG for 'allowed relationships' and it shows that a position to position relationship of 'is supervisor of' is available. Any and all help much appreciated...I can't figure out how to automatically do this.
Thanks,
Hope

Hope,
In the ECC6 system I am working with at the moment, it doesn't work that way either. In PPOME I can create a new position from an Org Unit, but not from another position.
Must admit, I have never tried to do that in this or older releases before though. We tend to mostly use Chief positions, so any new positions are just created in the Org Unit and automatically report to the Chief.
I did notice that if I created a new position in PPOME then added the "Reports To" relationship manually (via Go To > Detail object > Enhanced object description), any copies of the positon that I subsequently made in PPOME also got the same "Reports To" relationship created automatically.
Regards,
John

Reporting relationship of people when a managing position has many holders

Hi experts,
SAP OM and PM allows multiple holders of a position. I have 2 questions about that actually:
1. Is it common in implementation to have more than 1 holders for a position?
2. usually, a position reports to the managing position of its org. unit. If the managing position has multiple holders, how can we know who reports to whom? any other configurations solve this issue?
3. Similar problem happens when an org.unit has more than 1 managing position. But that can be solved by S-S relationship.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Alex

Hi,
I agree 100% with Dilek.
Alex, from your question i can tell that you're aware that with regards to "relationships" P is just a holder S, thus inherits all position's attributes, meaning if a person1 holding positionX that reports to a positionY having holders(person2 and person3) it basically means that person1 reports to both person2&3 and vice-versa.
So to make your situation less complex, use Dilek's advice as it will make others things(i.e. workflow, cost distributions etc) easier to do and maintain henceforth.
I hope you manage to fix it.
Kind Regards,
Gosiame.T

Structural Org Management

Dear All,
I'm asked to study on Structural Org Management, because soon I'll have to work on the same. As I have no clue what it is all about, can somebody help me with relevant document.
Thanks in advance
Regards,
Taran

hi,
to start with structure org management is simply mapping the organization chart on to the System
like what are the various departments , positions, and who occupies the positions etc.
like these objects have a relationships with other objects like person holds aposition etc.
it is fairly simple.
just as others have said just go to the interfaces and try
regards
nalla

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