Relationship of Jobs to Position

Hi,
When I maintain EG and ESG infotype(1013) through Jobs (Po03) should'nt these fields be automatically populated in Position (Po13) when I assign the relationship between Jobs and Positions?

Hi,
we use the T Code PO03 to create the jobs. Once the object is created the system does not ask for any other infotypes like relation ships to be maintained as it happens in T code PO10 and PO13 as we create the organisation units and Positions respectively.
After creating the Position using PO!3, in which the relation ships to the Orgaisation unit is maintained we have to highlight the relationships again for the second time and create the relationship between JOB and POSITION.
The relation ship goes like this " Job describes the position"
Position is described by the Job"
Hope your query is addressed corectly
All the best to you
Regards
RR

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