RemoteApp and Session Host on same servers?

I have been asked to architected a new deployment of our RDS server with Windows 2012. I have identified that we are standing up a Gateway, Web access, RemoteApp and session host. VDI is a pain point for us so that will not be in this implementation.
My question is right now we have several RDS servers some performing the role of Session host and some as dedicate RemoteAppp servers. I am being told that the recommended way is to create one farm and have all the servers setup to support both
roles. Is this the best way to provide these services? Are there any gotchas with this approach?

Hello one and all : Fixed. You can. Im not a Microsoft Agent or other, Im often called an IT Fireman.
Anyhow, I Googled a lot and found how to "fix" this issue. This article...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2833839
...describes the process.
But in short:
1) You must make this a basic domain server, all be it self contained.
2) Use a bit of PowerShell to make the same server recognise the local
Remote Desktop Licensing server.
3) Reboot a few times and use the Install Rolles and Features to do the Quick RDS install. Let it choose all the options. It was at this point that I stopped writing down what I was doing, but I simply followed the error messages and recommended solutions.
Eventually, everything works. I have my 2008R2 looking RemoteApp and Remote Desktops on my wizzy new server with better WAN compression.
QED.
But I have to say, I needed no Googling nor two days to get this working on Server 2008, and no need for Linux style command line interface options either. Comme on guys... Even if someone makes a "PowerToy" to do all this... can someone please make it easier,
not harder ? I hate to think whats next... compile your own PowerShell before you can use it (and maybe write it in VI before you can compile it ... ?)
But its now working... so the little companies I help will be happy again.
Cymon

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Using Windows 2008 R2 RD Session Hosts in Windows 2012 RD Deployments

Just a couple of observations from our attempt to deploy Windows 2008 R2 RD Session Hosts as part of a Windows 2012 RD Deployment. Hopefully these save someone the angst of not finding answers in other documentation.
1. Our first hurdle was trying to add a Windows 2008 R2 server (RD02) as a Session Host in the Remote Desktop Services area in Server Manager on our Windows 2012 RD Deployment server (RDCB01), which had the Connection Broker, Web Access and Session
Host role services installed. After some side-tracking through AD issues, we eventually discovered that we had to manually add RD02 to the list of servers to manage in Server Manager on RDCB01. Then it was visible and could be selected.
2. Now that we could, we tried to actually add the RD02 Windows 2008 R2 Session Host to the 2012 Deployment. This failed the previously unheard of compatibility tests with the error "Compatibility check failed" "The server is not running at least {0}". A
list of requirements is shown:
You will not be able to proceed with the installation unless ALL the following criteria are met:
The server must be available by using Windows PowerShell remotely.
The server must be running at least Windows Server 2012.
The currently logged on user must be a member of the local Administrators group on the server.
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I agree with other posters in their assessments of wholesale changes to RDS in 2012, and a lack of readily available definitive information.

Hi,
It seems that no official documents suggest that 2008 r2 could be involved with the 2012 rds infra.Even on the server 08 and 08r2,i don't suggest mixing them for potential incompatibility.
Any further discussions about this issue are welcomed here for all of you.
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"Accounting-Start" and "Accounting-Stop" with same "user name" and "session Id" recorded in different RADIUS servers.

Hi,
I have questions about "Accounting-Start" and "Accounting-Stop".
1.If a NAS configured to have a primary and a backup RADIUS server. To start with all the “Accounting-Start” records will be in the primary RADIUS server. Later on the primary server goes down (Primary server won’t tell the NAS?). When sessions stop, the NAS sends the “Accounting-Stop” to the secondary. I understand the “Start-Stop” record with the same “user name” and “session-id” ideally should be recorded in the same server. If this situation happens what should both the NAS and RADIUS server do?
2.A NAS configured to have a primary and backup RADIUS server. To start with all the “Accounting-Start” records will be in the primary RADIUS server. Later on the administrator decided to change the primary server (as there are problems with the previous primary). sessions stop, the NAS sends the “Accounting-Stop” to the new primary. This ends up the “Accounting-Start” and “Accounting-Stop” with the same “user name” and “session Id” in two RADIUS servers.
To summarize, how to avoid the ”start-stop” pair ends up in different servers ? If it does, is it an issue for RADIUS application ?
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2.A NAS configured to have a primary and backup RADIUS server. To start with all the “Accounting-Start” records will be in the primary RADIUS server. Later on the administrator decided to change the primary server (as there are problems with the previous primary). sessions stop, the NAS sends the “Accounting-Stop” to the new primary. This ends up the “Accounting-Start” and “Accounting-Stop” with the same “user name” and “session Id” in two RADIUS servers.
To summarize, how to avoid the ”start-stop” pair ends up in different servers ? If it does, is it an issue for RADIUS application ?
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Server 2012 R2 RDS- Only want the Session Host, Connection Broker and Licensing Server!

Hi all,
Wondering if anyone has experience with implementing Remote Desktop Services (RDS) on Windows Server 2012 R2.
I am doing an RDS design for a platform where we only need an RDS Session Host, Licensing Server and Connection Broker. We do not need web access as these servers will simply be jump boxes internally!
However, implementing this correctly in our test environment has proved to be tricky. The options are:
Use the Server Manager and do a traditional install via Roles and Features ( specifically add the Session Host, Licensing Server and Connection Broker). The installation process seems to go through ok in this scenario but when I head over to the Remote
Desktop Services section of the Server Manager I simply get the message 'An RDS Deployment does not exist in the server pool. To create a deployment head to Roles and Features'.
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correctly via the Server Manager. However this process is ‘hard locked’ i.e. it installs the session host, web access and connection broker. I can then remove the web access component later from Roles/ Features.
Is there a best practice (if any) for installation? i.e. Will there be any issues down the line if I remove RDS Web Access from my server while following method 2?
There is a complete lack of documentation from Microsoft here so not sure what to do! Just need a basic RDS session based deployment.

Hi,
As I know from server 2012\R2 the best deployment skill is to perform via “Remote Desktop Services” installation mode with Standard deployment and don’t let single role to install. Because when we install through RDS mode, there are specific extra tools and
services activated along with that deployment which you can’t find with single role installation. And that is for sure, when we install RDS role as of this, by default we will get install RDCB, RDSH and RDWA role installed.
Sorry don’t have any option to try to remove that role as that role basically needed for RemoteApp and Desktop purpose. But if you want then you can try it with help of “Remove-RDServer”Powershell command.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj215506.aspx
Hope it helps!
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Windows 2012 RDS - Session Host servers High Availability

Hello Windows/Terminal server Champs,
I am new middle of implementing RDS environment for one of my customer, Hope you could help me out.
My customer has asked for HA for RDS session host where applications are published, and i have prepared below plan for server point of view.
2 Session Host server, 1 webaccess, 1 License/connection
Broker & 1 Gateway (DMZ).
In first Phase, we are planning to target internal user
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In second Phase we will be dealing with external Party who connect from external network where we are planning to integrate with NetIQ => gateway
=> Webaccess/Session host
I have successfully installed and configured 2 Session
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However most of the Architecture is change in RDS 2012. can you please help me out to setup the Session Host HA.
Note: we can have only 1 Connection broker /Licensing server , 1 webacess server & 1 Gateway server, we cannot increase more server due to cost
factor.
thanks in advance.

Yes, absolutely no problem in just using one connection broker in your environment as long as your customer understands the SPOF.
the session hosts however aren't really what you would class HA - but to set them up so youhave reduancy you would use either Windows NLB, an external NLB device or windows dns round robin. My preferred option when using the connection broker is DNS round
robin - where you give each server in the farm the same farm name dns entry - the connection broker then decides which server to allocate the session too.
You must ensure your session host servers are identical in terms of software though - same software installed in the same paths on all the session host servers.
if you use the 2012 deployment wizard through server manager roles the majority of the config is done for you.
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Restarting Services on the RemoteApp Session Host

Can anyone advise me how I might restart a windows service on my RemoteApp Session Host. I have a LOB application that I need to restart services from time to time and wondered if there is a PowerShell way of doing it.

Hi,
First you need to use an account that has permission to restart the service(s) and then you may restart them using the usual techniques such as services.msc, net start/stop, etc. For a Hybrid collection you can restart remotely as well using same methods,
including PowerShell, assuming you have configured the VM template (or via GPO) to allow it.
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Load balancing RD Session host servers & Certificate error

I have three RD Session host servers Named RDSH1, RDSH2 and RDSH3.
Two servers RDSH1 and RDSH2, are user in addition to RD SH as RD CB and RD WA. I have deploy both in HE deployment with Windows NLB. RD CB and RD WA use the same url CBPub.domain.com.
I have created collection and add all three servers to that collection. I have published application, and it works. Users connect without warning to all three servers, when using RD WEB. But when user try to connect to terminal
server using mstsc and url of RCCB CBPub.domain.com, I get certificate warning only when connecting to RDSH3 server where warring is for RDSH3.domain.com. I’m probably missing something basic.
RDSH3 has in private computer store same certificate, that is deployed on all three servers. It was deploy manual prior RS SH deployment. It is the same certificate as it is installed on RDSH1 & RDSH2 server.

Hi,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
What’s the certificate error which you are facing?
The certificate which used for RDS server must be signed by trusted authority and placed under “local computer\personal store”.
If you are just connecting internally from clients in the same domain, you should be able to use an internal Enterprise CA to create a SAN or wildcard certificate which you can use on your servers.
We need to install the certificates on all RDSH server manually.
• Open the MMC and open the Certificates snapin
• Add the Local Computer
• Import the certificate into Computer\Personal
• Open the certificate and find the thumbprint on the details tab. Copy the thumbprint to notepad and delete all the spaces.
• Open up an elevated PowerShell prompt and write:
• wmic /namespace:\\root\cimv2\TerminalServices PATH Win32_TSGeneralSetting Set SSLCertificateSHA1Hash=”‎PASTE_THUMBPRINT_STRING”
• You can check the certificate by running:
• Get-WmiObject -class “Win32_TSGeneralSetting” -Namespace root\cimv2\terminalservices -Filter “TerminalName=’RDP-tcp'”
More information.
Certificate Requirements for Windows 2008 R2 and Windows 2012 Remote Desktop Services
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2014/01/24/certificate-requirements-for-windows-2008-r2-and-windows-2012-remote-desktop-services.aspx
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Relation between RD Connection broker and RD session host farm in 2012 R2

Good Day
I have configured standard RDS session based deployment recently on 2012 R2 servers
Everything is working as expected
The setup has TWO RD Session host, 1 Session Broker, one RD Web access and one RD Gateway
I have created 2 DNS records named Rdsfarm.domain.com for my RDS1 and RDS2 session host servers and if I connect to this
rdsfarm.domain.com with RDP from TS clients, i am able to connect to any one of TWO rds servers without any problem
However some part is not clear to me
I have not added rdsfarm.domain.com any where except my RD Gateway server RAP policy
Also I have added my RD Broker server in RAP allowed group above.
I don't see any config where this farm name is associated with my RD Broker server
I have tried to connect to RD broker server from client, but it didn't redirect me to RD session host servers
If I try to connect to my RDS servers with their FQDN , it gives me error that I must connect thru farm name
Can you please help me to understand relation between RD session host servers farm and RD broker server ?
Also I would like to know what exactly happens in background when user start RDP session by entering RDS farm name
Note that RDS farm name is generic DNS Host(A) record pointing to my both RD session host servers
I wanted to know is there any command or configuration I missed out as I don't see any config where Generic RD Session Host Farm name (DNS Host(A) record) is associated with my RD Broker server ?
Thanks
Best Regards
Mahesh

Hi,
If you are opening Remote Desktop Connection and manually connecting to the broker then it will not work properly because you have no way of specifying the target collection in the user interface. If manually using the RD Client to connect is a requirement
what you can do is set the default collection in the RD Connection Broker server's registry.
To specify the default collection, please create the registry setting below in the broker's registry:
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\ClusterSettings
DefaultTsvUrl REG_SZ tsv://vmresource.1.<VDI pool ID>
To determine the correct value for DefaultTsvUrl please open RDWeb in a non-IE web browser and click on the icon for the collection you would like to be the default, then edit the downloaded rdp file with Notepad and copy the portion of the loadbalanceinfo
setting that is similar to the above.
An alternative would be to download the .rdp file from RD Web Access and double-click it to connect.
As I mentioned above it is generally intended to have users connect via RD Web Access or RemoteApp and Desktop Connections feed or Remote Resources (uses the feed) so that the client will obtain the proper .rdp file from the server.
To configure the FQDN that is published in the .rdp files you can use the cmdlet below:
Change published FQDN for Server 2012 or 2012 R2 RDS Deployment
http://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Change-published-FQDN-for-2a029b80
Below is a sample configuration based on what you have written:
1. Published FQDN (using cmdlet above): rdsfarm.domain.com --> points to ip address of RDCB server. When launching a RemoteApp or Full Desktop connection from RD Web Access, the prompt window will show this FQDN next to Remote computer.
2. Gateway FQDN: gateway.domain.com --> externally points to public ip address of your RD Gateway server. TCP port 443 and UDP port 3391 need to be forwarded to the RDG's internal ip address. When launching a RemoteApp or Full Desktop
connection from RD Web Access, the prompt window will show this FQDN next to Gateway server. This FQDN is set in Server Manager -- RDS -- Overview -- Deployment Properties -- RD Gateway tab.
In RD Gateway Manager -- Properties of RD RAP -- Network Resources tab you should select Allow user to connect to any network resource or define a RD Gateway-managed group that has all of the FQDNs that the user will need to connect to.
3. RD Web Access FQDN: remote.domain.com --> internally points to the ip address of your RDWeb server, externally points to the public ip address of your RDWeb server. This is the name you give users if they want to use RD Web, for example,
https://remote.domain.com/rdweb
If you want users to manually connect using Remote Desktop Client as well as use RDWeb it will be a bit confusing to them since they will need to use one FQDN when manually using the client and a different FQDN when using RDWeb. You could fix this
by having them only use one method or run RDWeb directly on the RDCB server, that way users would only need to know a single FQDN for both RDWeb and manual connections.
4. You should have a wildcard certificate with subject of *.domain.com set for all RDS purposes in Deployment Properties.
Thanks.
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I am getting the following error " The following requirements should be met for the RD Session Host Servers in the collection"

Hello All,
I have a windows server 2012 R2 build 9600, I have installed all the required Terminal Services and configured a Session based collection. I have verified that all services are running including the RD Session Host and I am using an Administrator account
for the set up. All the terminal services are installed on a single server, Domain Controller is installed on a separate one.
When I try to add RemoteApp Application to the collection i get the error bellow::
Can any one help solve this problem, I tried to trouble shoot this with out success.
Thank you.
Ron

Hi,
Thank you for posting in Windows Server Forum.
Does the RD server joined to domain or in workgroup mode?
Are you trying to use RemoteApp?
What’s your client OS and RDP version used?
From your description there is issue with the installation and configuration of RD server. You can check the configuration part and follow the below link for rechecking all the steps. In addition to the steps you have performed, please see whether the user
is member of “Remote desktop Users” local group. Try with enterprise version on client system.
Step by Step Windows 2012 R2 Remote Desktop Services – Part 1
Hope it helps!
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[Forum FAQ] Troubleshoot the error "The Remote Desktop Session Host server is in Per User licensing mode and No Redirector Mode"

Symptom
RD License server is a key component of RDS. It licenses users to access RDS servers.
After purchase the required RDS CALs, we need to activate the RDS License server and install the purchased RDS CALs. However, during the installation or after installation, we may face errors
about RDS License.
In most cases, the following error may occur.
Error:
The Remote Desktop Session Host server is in Per User licensing mode and No Redirector Mode, but license server "Server name" does not have any installed licenses with the following
attributes:
Product version: Windows Server 2012
Licensing mode: Per User
License type: RDS CALs
Troubleshooting
1. Check whether the RD License Configuration is configured properly and there are no Warnings in the Event.
2. The License Server should be part of 'RD Server License' group in Active Directory Domain Services.
3. Check if the Licensing Mode is correct.
- To change the Licensing Mode we can use RD Licensing diagnose, PowerShell cmdlet and Group Policy.
Via PowerShell cmdlet:
To change the licensing mode on RDSH/RDVH:
$obj = get-wmiobject -namespace "Root/CIMV2/TerminalServices" Win32_TerminalServiceSetting
$obj.ChangeMode(value)
# Value can be 2 - per Device, 4 - Per user
Via Group Policy
Path: Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Remote Desktop Services -> Remote Desktop Session Host -> Licensing
Use the specified RD license servers = FQDN of server name
Set the Remote Desktop licensing mode =
Per User
However, if issue persists, please provide detailed information and post the question in the
Remote Desktop Services (Terminal Services) forum.
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Hi Richard,
You need to uninstall Remote desktop session host feature. After removing it, you will default two connections which does not need to purchase RD CALs'.
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RemoteApp 2012 R2 Restrict Access to Session Host Desktop

Here is our current situation: I have set up Remote Desktop Services on Server 2012 R2 and published RemoteApp programs. Everything works great with load balancing, collections, etc... and I have been very impressed. However, as it always has been an issue,
I have always had the question of how to allow users to access RemoteApp applications on the session host without allowing them to RDP directly onto the server to access the server desktop. Obviously, you have to add them to remote desktop users group and
they need to be allowed to access over RDP so I figure that the next best thing is to restrict access to the desktop should they manually type the name into an RDP client connection. I know you couldn't restrict them from using mstsc.exe because they need
that to open the RemoteApp since it just uses RDP and I am aware of using GPO's to restrict access to drives and many other things but I would like to remove the desktop altogether. Would it be plausible to remove the GUI feature and restrict access to CMD
and SCONFIG through Server Manager and still allow the session host to present RemoteApp applications or is there a better way to approach this? I figured if I just remove the GUI and access to cmd and sconfig then if they logged on, they would get a blank
screen. Thank you in advance for your time!

Hi,
One technique for this is to set the Custom User Interface group policy setting to logoff.exe. You would have the GPO apply to normal users, but not applied to Domain Admins (or other users that you need to have full desktop).
User Configuration\Administrative Templates\System
Custom User Interface Enabled
Interface file name: %systemroot%\system32\logoff.exe
You should also use NTFS permissions, group policy settings, AppLocker, etc., to further restrict what users are able to do.
-TP

Changing RemoteApp Session Host connection name in 2012

I am looking for a way to change the server name you connect to (on the Session Host), like you could in 2008 R2. Pictures a worth a thousand words, so I've attached a picture of exactly what I am looking for:
The servers are setup so their names are servername.domain.local, but since they will be facing outwards (with a RD Gateway between them, of course) and non-domain members will be accessing them, we need a way to change the "server name" to servername.domain.com
(.dk actually, but you get the point), so the certificate applies to it.
Currently, connecting looks like this:
We don't want our customers getting this dialog box. Any help is appreciated.

Hi,
The architecture is changed.We don't use the DNS RR or NLB to redirect the initial connection any more.We just need the RDCB database to redirect the connection.The process is simplified.In short, there is no need to change the server name like the above.All
the changeable settings are on the RDCB.To get dialog box disappeared,you need to change the cert name to match the destination computer.
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Can SharePoint Apps and SharePoint 2013 workflow run on the same servers?

As the SharePoint 2013 workflow manager can run on non-sharePoint servers. Can I also use those server to host SharePoint apps in the Provider host model?
Or should I keep them separate?
This is a medium size deployment, 2 WFEs, 2 Apps, 1 Clustered DB. I would be adding 2 additional servers for hosting workflow manager, and SharePoint apps.
One other option I can think of would be to host the Workflow manager on the SharePoint Apps servers. And then host the SharePoint Apps on the 2 separate servers.
Any guidance or gatchas would be great the hear about.
Thanks!
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Yes, you should be able to run SharePoint Provider hosted apps using the Workflow Server as the provider. There is nothing in workflow manager that prevents running web sites on the same server.
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