Repliation of Ecc Org Structure

Hi,
Question -1
I am new to SRM and I would like to know how purchase org and purchase group are replicated from ECC.
I can able to maintain backend ECC organization data in SRM organization structure but not sure whether these data are replicated.
Is it replicated through CRM Middleware (Customizing objects), If so what is the adapters used?
Question -2
Is GL accounts are replicated from backend ECC and maintained in SRM config or GL accounts manually maintained in SRM under
"Define GL accounts for product category and account assignment category" ?
Regards,
Vishnu

Hi VIshnu,
Question -1
Ans - P.Org & P.Grp are not replicated from ECC systems. Instead they are created as a normal Organizational node in the Org. Structure and then under the "Functions" tab, if the node is a CC/P.Org/P.Grp the corresponding checkbox is selected and the corresponding Organizational value is maintained by updating the relevant backend ECC system.
Question -2
Ans - G/L's are maintained manually in SRM system and that too independently in each system (DEV, QA, PROD).
They are maintained in the configuration path:
SPRO -> SRM -> Cross Application Basic Settings -> Account Determination -> Maintain G/L Account Data.
In this, G/L Accounts are maintained against the combination of:
- Product Category
- Logical System
- Account Assignment Category
Kindly let me know if you have any more questions.
Br,
Raghu.

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Hi Guys,
In addition to my message above, I'm adding the error below so that somebody can better understand the issue here.
Information on where terminated
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     in
    procedure "USER_DETAIL_GET" "(FORM)", but it was neither handled locally nor
     declared
    in the RAISING clause of its signature.
    The procedure is in program "SAPLBBP_SC_APP "; its source code begins in line
    6 of the (Include program "LBBP_SC_APPF35 ".
=========================================================
return parent org.-units of all paths
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