Resource search with "wrong" Org Structure

Hello,
I am using cProjects 4.5.
My org structure is coming from SAP HCM (IDOC HRMD_ABA)
Now i am creating a project with resource-role.
When i want to staff that role with resources i'll use the "resource source" button.
I can search by organisational structure, but here i'll see a part of the structure....not the whole structure i see when i use PPOME.
The dates are right. Which influence this search bij organisational unit?

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