Result Analysis - completed contracts (09) method

Hi All,
With standard SAP the RA completed contracts (09) method doesnt create reserves for imminent loss.
We would like to calculate imminent loss. using RA -completed contracts (09) method and any one customized RA method "09" and calculated imminent loss. ?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Anusha

Hi Sudhir,
We are using CCM method (09) and we can't calculate imminent loss with this method.
In SAP-Standard the RA method for completed contracts (09) creates no reserves for imminent loss (sap-note 602707).
I'm looking for some solution to calculate imminent loss using RA method 09.
If planned costs are greater than planned revenues (= Imminent Loss) and the WBS-element status is REL the system will automatically create a posting for imminent loss in FI and CO-PA. The amount of this posting will be planned costs u2013 planned revenues.If the WBS-element status changes to TECO those postings for IL will be automatically reversed.this what i would like to do.
could you please explain me RA configuration steps for above issue.
Thanks,
Anusha

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