Return Delivery, Freight Value is Negative

Dear all,
I find the freight is negtive in the return delivery (delivery type =RL).the Freight is from condition master data. Customer return goods, but we still pay freight to agancy. Is it SAP standard function? If I want to the freight is postive, how to do ?
thanks first.
Cindylan
Edited by: FangHua Lan on Nov 23, 2009 9:12 AM

Dear,
Thanks your reply.
Using your method, but can't my issue.
I clear my issue again.
I define freight condition (ZK10) for return delivery and normal delivery, and maintain ZK10 master data( positive). when I create return delivery, the condition ZK10 amount is positive( come from master data), while condition value is negative, the condition value = ZK10 amount * weight, and the condition value is gray( can't change). I don't know why condition value is negative.
thanks again.
Cindylan

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