Revel and PSE 12 Organizer

1) How do I move photos's from Revel/mobile library to my Mac/folders?
I have transferred photo's from my Camera Roll on the iPhone to Revel on the phone. These show up in PSE Org under Mobile Albums>>My Library on my Mac. I want to move them from the mobile/Revel and save them in a folder on my hard drive and show them in the Catalog. I have a folder in the Org that want to transfer them to, but the catalog rejects the move when I try to drag them into it.
I see that I can download a pix from Revel to a folder on the hard drive, but a see no way of doing a large batch of photo's.
2) Finally, how do you delete a photo from the mobile albums w/o deleting it from the folder in Org?
Thanks for the help
Dave

Hi Dave,
I get it that you may be confused here. PSE and Revel handle things differently - which is weird, I know
I may or may not answer all your questions. Just let me know and I will then get an Elements team member to help clear up the rest
1) Dave's Photos vs Dave's Library = the Revel application uses the term Library for the main folder of images, which you can then break up into albums with the images in that Library. Elements uses different terminology for the same thing. As they are in truth 2 separate apps, the naming conventions were not standardized between them but it does lead to confusion! As a note, PSE and Revel do not share the downloaded library information. So if you don't want 2 copies you can uncheck download originals from the Revel preference.
Regarding #2 I will have an Elements team member answer that question as they are the experts.
Regarding #3 I am not quite sure what you are asking.
a. Are you asking about how the images display? As a note you can change the order of images in an album in a library on the mobile app and can also custom order images in the Organizer but you can't change the order of images in the Revel Library itself - they display by date.
b. Are you saying that there are images you can see in Organizer and the Revel mobile app that you cannot see on the Revel desktop?
Let me know!
Best regards,
Glenyse

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