Reverse back to Tiger 10.4.x

What's the best way to downgrade from Leopard back to 10.4.x? Since upgrading to Leopard I can no longer print. Others have encountered similar problems (check the printing forums). Anyway I was think of going back to 10.4 until HP or Apple can put together a driver which works for my HP 3650.
What's the best way to go backwards?

I had the same problem, but with a Canon i9900 printer. Try using a USB cable on your printer, if you are using a firewire cable now. If that works then go back to the firewire cable. One of the two should work. If not then goto the printer OEM web site and look for a Leopard driver, install, restart, and try again with either cable.
If that fails to produce the desired results then make sre you have a external hard drive attached to your Leopard mac. Let time machine back up your entire drive, then go to the next step.
Using your cloned copy back up drive, copy back your Tiger OSX and files to your hard drive.
This assumes you did back up your hard drive.
If not then use your Tiger OS disk and do a clean install. Then re-install all your applications, files and etc.
If and when you decide to re-install Leopard you can reattach the backup drive used by time machine to your mac, then using the Leopard DVD install disk restore your Leopard and all files to the mac.
Hope that helps.
Don

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How to Uninstall Leopard Upgrade and go back to Tiger

I would like to go back to Tiger and was wondering how to uninstall the Leopard upgrade without having to do a full reformat. Is this possible? Thanks in advance!

nerowolfe wrote:
fenderltd wrote:
I would like to go back to Tiger and was wondering how to uninstall the Leopard upgrade without having to do a full reformat. Is this possible? Thanks in advance!
First, welcome to the Apple boards.
Backup what you have because it probably contains things from the original update you want to keep - network settings, passwords, etc. A bootable clone is your best bet - and test it out.
Then you need to format your HD (full, not quick) with the Leopard DVD and then reboot with the Tiger CD and install it. I am not sure how much you can migrate "downwards" from the Leopard backup, but some things will probably come along OK. Not sure about mail since it was converted by Leopard - will it unconvert? Don't know.
I have read of some who tried to simply install Tiger over Leopard but the results were less than great. You can try it once you have that clone backup, because you won't be losing anything.
I would suggest unplugging the clone during the erase and install process until you get to the migration point.
Message was edited by: nerowolfe
I have a brand new Leopard based MacBook Pro that I need to revert to its previous cat form of Tiger. Would you mind walking me through it? I have Tiger disks that came with another MacBook Pro so those should have all of the machine specific items I will need. As I understand this, I start the computer from the included Leopard disk and do a full format. (I noticed that there is a new partition style named GUID Partition, is this Leopard only?) Next, I load in my Tiger disks and install from those? I do not need to do any system backups as I have no information on this computer as of yet. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, Brian

I GIVE UP! Is it possible to uninstall Leopard and go back to Tiger?

I am ready to give up for now. Is it possible to uninstall and go back to Tiger?

If you were wise you would consider other options just besides getting rid of Leopard and throwing it away. First, you could wait until Apple releases OS 10.5.1, then install and update to it. This might help take care of some problems. You could dual boot OS 10.4.10 and 10.5 as long as you have the OS 10.4 full install Disk and the OS 10.5 full install disk. I personally will wait until at least Christmas time before I install Leopard. New OS's are always full of bugs. On the Microsoft side, I've read where Windows Vista is still having major problems and is taking a long time to become widely used. These problems take time to fix. When Windows XP came out nobody would upgrade to it because of all it's bugs, now Windows XP is considered the standard on PCs. Mac OS 10.4 was also full of bugs at first, but now we talk about how rock solid it is. Simply give Apple time to fix these problems.

How hard would it be to go back to Tiger?

I just can't live with Leopard anymore. Since I installed it, I have daily and repeated crashes of Safari, random things like Calculator don't work, and now, my battery will not charge, essentially turning my laptop into a desktop. I had none of these issues before I upgraded. The battery one seems to be a result of 10.5.1. (Yes, I have checked the adapter. My adapter will charge the SO's identical, but non-Leopard PowerBook, but his will not charge mine) I'm just tired of the frustration. I've been a Mac fangirl for 16 years, but this is enough to make me want to leave.
So, I'm thinking about trying to go back to Tiger. Has anyone done this? Was it successful in making your Mac useful again for something other than being a doorstop? How big a pain in the rear was it? I'm kind of afraid to see what new features 10.5.2 will unleash on my poor PB.
Thanks!

Well, you can try starting another discussion with one or more of your specific problems with Leopard and see if someone can help you with them.
Apple recommends doing an erase and install for downgrading to a previous version of OS X. In your case, you'll have to use a Tiger install disk to do an erase and install. Note: This will erase everything from your drive. You'll have to backup any important data first.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25404
Regards,
Steve M.
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Going back to Tiger...

Is there anyone out there who can give me a good reason not to downgrade back to Tiger when I have the following issues:
1. Photoshop 7 no longer works. Upgrade price is £700
2. iCal 3 is dreadful compared to iCal in Tiger.
3. Spotlight is absolutely dreadful compared to Tiger (specifically in terms of the layout and its ability to decide for you where it's searching).
4. Illustrator 10 is unhappy.
5. Finding networked computers is hit and miss... sometimes it finds them, sometimes it doesn't.
6. Mail will only download files opened within Mail to the Mail Download folder.
7....
The list goes on and on...
Someone (preferably from Apple) please reassure me that at least some of these issues are being sorted out... at least for the Mac apps like Mail, iCal, Spotlight (!!) and Finder...
Please! I'm an avid Mac fan but I'm currently so disappointed...
Edward

A Brody:
Thanks for your response! Just to cover your points:
1. Adobe told me that they could not guarantee that Photoshop Elements would be compatible with the other Adobe products I have (which "basically" work with Leopard (i.e. Illustrator, InDesign etc.) Hence, they said my "only option" is to upgrade to CS3. I know I'm probably being a bit tight but £700 on 4-5 computers in my office is a lot of money...
2. iCal: Go to the iCal user forum (e.g. here http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6253569&#6253569) to see some of the gripes! Mainly it's about usability and lack of the sidebar (a function which has been removed) - the lack of sidebar makes it much more cumbersome to use. The user interface has taken a step backwards on a number of counts...
3. Spotlight: my index is fine. Spotlight (and more importantly the 'search' box which appears when you select 'view all' "works" in that it finds everything... but the layout is now dreadful. It's gone from a neatly laid out arrangement delineated by images, documents, presentations etc. to one long list. Have a look here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6435106&#6435106 - this shows how the neat look of Spotlight has been replaced by mess! I know I can sort by kind but this will then categorise, say images as 'jpg', in one place, 'adobe jpeg' in another etc. And the image icons are tiny (as opposed to sensibly big in Tiger). I could use the coverflow facility to look but that gives me all the files to see as thumbnails not just images (say). Moreover, it's possible to limit the type of files you're searching for in the spotlight pull down menu (top right) but when you then say "show all" you then can't limit the files you then see... it shows everything! Simply, Tiger was much better.
4. I appreciate that Adobe say Illustrator 10 was only "compatible" with 10.1 but it worked fine with absolutely no issues up to 10.4. It's now not so happy. As with the Photoshop issues, I know it's probably just time to upgrade but it's frustrating nonetheless that Leopard has caused it!
6. Mail: when I say download I mean attachments - the thread I put a link on explains that when you open (doubleclick) an attachment from within Mail it saves that attachment to the Mail Downloads folder. This cannot be changed. If you press 'save' from within mail, you can decide where it saves it, but then you need to open it from wherever that is... which is an extra step! Grrr.
Hope that explains some of the points. My hope really is just to know that Apple are aware of the problems and that they are doing something about it. These forums are great if you have a problem that someone can help solve. But when you read 'that's a function that's no longer available' or similar, I then want to know if Apple are aware people are having issues. It would then be nice if they responded with either 'the reason it's changed is X' (where X is a good reason!) or 'we're working to rectify the situation'.
Sigh!
Edward

HT201269 I have had my laptop stolen with my itunes account on it with all my music/ films/ apps etc. Can I reverse back up my new laptop with itunes installed from my multiple apple devces?

I have had my laptop stolen with my itunes account on it with all of my music/ films/ apps etc. Can I reverse back up my new laptop loaded with itunes installed from my ipad and iphone apple devices?

Follow the directions here:
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-3141

Migrating back from leopard 10.5.x back to tiger 10.4.11

Hi there,
KDX server transfers are failing on leopard 10.5.x and therefore I need to migrate back to tiger 10.4.11. Could somebody please send me appropriate directions on how to safely migrate from 10.5.x back to 10.4.11?
Cheers,
Noah

First make a full backup of your current system.
The only (semi) automatic downgrade option is an [archive and install|http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1710?viewlocale=en_US] of Tiger over your current leopard system. You won't be able to preserve your user and network settings if you do this. Your old system and and your old home folder will be preserved in the "Previous systems" folder at the top level of your hard drive.
Use this [link|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107297].
Keep in mind that archive and install downgrade is not recommended by apple and I've seen reports of some people having problems with it. Therefore, having a full backup of your current system is essential.

The best way to get back to Tiger?

Ok, I've had it. After pulling my hair out all weekend I am tired and unhappy. Problem after problem has come from this upgrade. Hours were spent stuck on the blue screen after an upgrade, my USB HDD drives won't mount, my flash drive won't UN-mount, no more flash in the web browser (no YouTube), and the fact that my Photoshop 7 is broke and won't run in Leopard is the last straw. I want to go back to Tiger. If I use the gray disks from Tiger can I just install it over Leopard? Or will I have to reformat the drive with the Tiger disks?
Has anyone successfully downgraded yet? Will I be able to get a refund on Leopard from the Apple store?

I appreciate the reply but I'm obviously not being clear with my peculiar problem. I can access nothing other than the login screen where my password is rejected, I can't reboot to discs (Tiger or Leopard) or single user, therfor I have no access to system pref. or any other mechanisms to fix my computer. Only rebooting with option key gives me anything other than the login screen--Gray Screen with Padlock Icon & Password Box. (what is this screen anyway?) It also fails to react (positively or negatively) to my password)
My HD is firewire and yes my Tiger clone works but it's moot in this condition. Hope that makes things clearer.
Thanks for your input

From Leopard back to Tiger

Odd question to ask I know but have experienced some problems since upgrading to Leopard, one being that my Superdrive no longer burns DVD's!! This appears to be an ongoing thing judging by some threads I've seen and I can't really afford to be going out and buying an external DVD burner! How easy should it be to go back to Tiger?
Thanks for any help

Yes, you can do the same as you did previously, with one exception. When you were installing Leopard you were going forward with a newer OS X version.
However, your Mac will block you from installing backwards unless you click the "Options" button at the bottom of the Destination selection screen early in the install process. You will then need to choose the type of install you will be doing, or you will need to choose to erase everything on the hard drive - Leopard and all else. Otherwise, your Mac will block you from accidentally going backwards with OS X by mistakenly using an older install disc, the result of which would be to destroy a more current OS X system.
If you have files you want/need to save from the Leopard hard drive, you should burn them to disc, copy them onto another Mac or onto an external hard drive, or copy to some other backup. If none of those are possible and you have enough empty space on your internal hard drive to keep everything on it now AND also install Tiger, you can use your Tiger install disc to "archive and install" a new OS X Tiger along side your current OS X Leopard folder. Afterwards, you would be able to move your files from the archived Leopard folder to the new Tiger folder.
If you proceed without noticing the "Options" button, and see the "Customize" button at the bottom of the "Easy Install" screen, you have passed the screen where the "Options" button was, and you need to back up to the previous page to access it. Once you have made an "Options" selection, you will have removed the OS X block and you will be able to proceed with the install of Tiger.
If you choose to Archive and Install - once you have Tiger installed and setup the way you need and have moved all your files over to the fresh Tiger system, you can then throw into the trash the archived folder containing your unwanted Leopard system. Once you then empty your trash, Leopard will be gone, and you will have back the hard drive space.

Sleep and Battery issues-- Back to Tiger?

(Half of this relates to a thread of mine called "Dead Battery?"-- I tried all the fixes proposed and it's still unclear if my battery is fine or dead.)
I'm having battery and sleep problems that started after installing Leopard and I'm wondering whether I should:
1) Go back to Tiger and see how things are.
2) Format and install Leopard again (I didn't do that the first time)
3) Do something else.
The details are:
My battery shows 0%, the computer recognizes it's connected to the AC adapter, but "Battery is not charging" shows in the drop down. Coconut says the current charge is 0 of a maximum of 4164mAh (Apple System Profiler agrees with those stats). Yesterday it said my capacity was at 94% of it's original, but I pulled the battery last night to reset the PMU and now it can't give me the original capacity. It also listed 111 loadcycles, but now (post PMU reset) it and profiler say 0 Cycles. My battery was working fine the day before and would give me a few hours of use on a full charge.
My computer has also had issues coming back from sleep. The screen will stay sometimes stay dark, but repeatedly holding the power button will suddenly bring it back. I was using it this morning, closed it for five minutes, and when I came back it would make a noise (the mechanical "HD waking up noise"), give me 4 seconds of my screen, and then the screen would go very dark (but not completely out). If I held the power button I could get 4 more seconds. This repeated until I ctrl-apple-power and it restarted just fine. I've never seen my machine do this before.
I have reset the PRAM and the PMU and tried different power adapters.

I use SoundHound, had no such problem.
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HOW DO I GO BACK TO TIGER ?

HI, I WISH TO GO BACK TO TIGER SINCE LEOPARD FEELS MORE LIKE A LEPER . I HAVE A IMAC INTEL CORE 2 . SPENT 129 $ FOR THAT BIG CAT BUT LOTS OF PROBLEMS SINCE INSTALL. DO I JUST PUT THE TIGER CD IN AND LEOPARD WILL RUN AWAY?
PS. is that ok a

No you can't just do that. If you have any data you wish to save, you'll have to back that up first at least twice. Make sure the data is compatible with applications that will run in Tiger, and that you have the application installers for what will install in Tiger, and that Tiger is compatible with your machine. My FAQ* here explains how to backup your data:
http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html
P.S. Please avoid using ALL UPPERCASE. It makes people think you want to be rude and obnoxious because in internet etiquette it means one is shouting.
- * Links to my pages may give me compensation.

Install left problems HOW CAN I GET BACK TO TIGER FROM LEOPARD?

so i upgraded from tiger to leopard, then i had a few problems, i.e. itunes would quit everytime i tried to delete a podcast, or editing multiple song info would make it crash. My ms word continously crashes as well as ichat.
So since i really need this maching working for school, can anyone tell me how to get back to tiger?
i tried an archive install and that did not work, i also tried creating a user acount and i know the problem lies within my primary user account, not other newly created accounts, i also tried removing cache and some plists so it would rebuild but still same problem.
So, CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO GET BACK TO TIGER WITHOUT LOSING ANY OF MY DATA? PLEASE?
THANKS

You can do an Archive & Install back to Tiger.

Reversing back from Maps 3.0 to 2.0 make you loose...

As in subject I reverted back from Maps 3.0 to Maps 2.0 as the last version didn't satisfied me.
Previously I activated 90 days' trial license with Nokia Maps 2.0 on my N97... And checking licenses would pop out an "xx days Walk & Drive Europe" license counting back from 89 to 0 days passing by....
When I upgraded to Maps 3.0 everything worked fine and the license was "adapted" automatically at first refresh...
After some days of use I decided to revert back to Map 2.0; so I *#7370#ed the phone... but...
When I started up againg Maps 2.0 (that seemed to work correctly) when I updated license associated to my phone the pop up was different: no more "walk" but only "83 days DRIVE EUROPE"
I think that upgrading to 3.0 then reversing back to 2.0 had messed up my 90 days walk and drive trial license...
Anybody knows how restore my license as to use it as "walk and drive europe" for those remaining days???
Thanks
Ambrogio Calcaterra
Milano - Italy
Message Edited by sexinxs on 17-Jul-2009 10:20 PM

Anybody who can provide feedback or a solution??
Thanks
Ambrogio

Archive and Install back to Tiger

Hello all!
After about a month of frustration, I think I am ready to take my PowerBook back to Tiger. I see that I can do an Archive and Install from my Tiger Retail. The only problem I see is that the "Preserve Users" setting is grayed out.
So, if I go through this Archive and Install, will I still have access to my old apps (iLife '08, and some third party stuff like Finale), photos, documents, and music?
Thanks for all of your help!
Josh

Here is the latest update:
I am happy (albeit slightly puzzled) to report that I have been running KERNEL PANIC FREE for most of yesterday and today. Here is why I am puzzled: I booted up yesterday and the system seemed to hang. I noticed that the keyboard worked, but not the trackpad. I went and got an old Apple USB mouse. When I plugged it in, it responded. I was able to work all of yesterday afternoon and this morning without incident.
Just for giggles, I unplugged the mouse this morning. I got a KP after about 30 seconds. Here is the report from that KP:
Mon Sep 1 07:30:31 2008
Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000000000578 PC=0x000000000055A6A0
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x46143280)
PC=0x0055A6A0; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000578; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00D2F7C0; R1=0x2A2C3BA0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00D74924 0x00D2F7C0 0x00D40E54 0x00D424D8 0x00D429B8 0x00D9F4AC
0x00D35CE4 0x0035A994 0x0003F94C 0x000B05D4
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx(314.46.9)@0xd2e000->0xe5afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(211.1)@0xd0a000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.0)@0xc8e000
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000->0x565fff
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x46143280)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x34f51500)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
9E17
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.4.0: Mon Jun 9 19:36:17 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.5.20~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerBook6,2
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x0009B498 0x0009BE3C 0x00029DD8 0x000AF210 0x000B2A78
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x46143280)
PC=0x0055A6A0; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000578; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00D2F7C0; R1=0x2A2C3BA0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00D74924 0x00D2F7C0 0x00D40E54 0x00D424D8 0x00D429B8 0x00D9F4AC
0x00D35CE4 0x0035A994 0x0003F94C 0x000B05D4
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx(314.46.9)@0xd2e000->0xe5afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(211.1)@0xd0a000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.0)@0xc8e000
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x552000->0x565fff
Exception state (sv=0x34f51500) P
Not sure why it is working, but I am not complaining either.
Thanks again for your help and insight!
Josh

Downgrade back to Tiger

Any way to downgrade OFF Leopard back to Tiger?
There is a long list of things that are now broken, aside from the performance issues (I know, I'm using a G4 so I knew there would be a hit there).
Safari won't connect to university websites and neither will Firefox, and this is a HUGE blow. Nothign seems amiss with the firewall.
Can't connect wirelessly. Keeps saying the connection times out. On top of that, it CONSTANTLY asks for the WPA password even when I checked remember and have entered it in like 100 times now.
Matlab refuses to load when it did before.
My serial communications program no longer works.

Haven't tried this yet, but the apple support site recommends a reinstall using "archive and install". They say you will have to reinstall applications and plug-ins after this process. They don't mention what happens to your boot camp partition, so beware. This process is suppose to fix the long blue screen delay during boot. Maybe it will fix the overall slow performance!
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306857
Does anyone know about this reinstall process?
One the bright side Boot camp runs better with the new Leopard drivers on disk.

Reverse back to Tiger 10.4.x

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