RMAN only backing up 2 out of 3 control files

Hi, I have noticed my RMAN backup only backs up 2 of the 3 control files I have defined for my database.
Is this normal behaviour for RMAN ( since it only needs the 2 and effectively can create others from them ).
I don't see any errors in relation to the backup
I am using 11gR2. When I go into OEM Db Control and look at AVAILABILITY - MANAGE CURRENT BACKUPS I see 3 entries,
2 for the Control Files and 1 for the database files. Yet my database uses 3 control files !
Can anyone explain this please ?

Jim Thompson wrote:
Hi, I have noticed my RMAN backup only backs up 2 of the 3 control files I have defined for my database.
Is this normal behaviour for RMAN ( since it only needs the 2 and effectively can create others from them ).
I don't see any errors in relation to the backup
I am using 11gR2. When I go into OEM Db Control and look at AVAILABILITY - MANAGE CURRENT BACKUPS I see 3 entries,
2 for the Control Files and 1 for the database files. Yet my database uses 3 control files !
Can anyone explain this please ?Actually RMAN backs up only one control file. You have three "multiplexed" and "same" controlfiles. If you want proof, delete them all except one, change CONTROL_FILES parameter in initialization file and start the db. It will start.
Read the following chapter:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14231/control.htm#ADMIN006

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In normal magazines, the pages are setup in 2-page spreads, with the back cover being by itself. In order to set up this up, (and let's say the floor plan is set to 2 folds beyond the inside back cover), do I just add 2 pages to the right on the second to last page, and 2 pages to the left on the last page (which I know I can do by unchecking "Allow selected spread to shuffle")?
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Kdubbie

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