Sales order - cost center posting

In a sales order, the field cost center (header rellated) appears only by entering an order reason.
Are there other possibilities to open cost center field for entry?

Hi,
If the account in question is defined as cost element (KA03), then it requires an assignment to CO. Profit centre is not sufficient, as it's not a CO entity, but EC-PCA. If you want to set different cost centre depending on input paramteres (plant), you can define a substitution (OKC9). Otherwise, if you just want to set a default you could use OKB9 or KA02.
Regards,
Eli

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BAPI/Function Module for posting internal order + cost center plan

Hi Guru:
Is there any function module/BAPI, which could be used to post internal order + cost center( both of them )plan data?
Like post a record:
internal order = 10000
cost center = C1000
amount = 1000$
for plann version 30?
It seems the BAPI could only contain 1 cost object, either cost center or internal order.
Thanks.
Eric

Hi again,
I think you may have missed something important here. In R/3 there can only be a single "real" cost object for any one posting. If not then the whole SAP financail model would collapse as there would be "double postings" and that is certainly not wanted.
If there is a need to post to two cost objects, like in your case, then one of the cost objects MUST be statistical.
In your scenario SAP has thought of a solution that might be of help for you. An internal order can be set to be statistical in master data. When posting to both the cost center and the internal order then you will get a real posting for the CC and a statisitical posting for the IO. Reporting does work with this as per your requirement.
Hope this gives you some hints for how to proceed.
Regards, Johan
Aaaaah. Noted that this was only plan data. Sorry. But the same still applies for plan data postings as well as for actual data postings. If there should be just one posting that could be "drilled down" from IO to CC -> If you post twice then, when doing "Grand total" for instance, double values would appear. So, still IO should be statistical. //Johan
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Sales order cost objective vs OKB9 Internal order cost object.

Hi All,
we facing an issue with sales order cost objective vs OKB9 cost object.
For IC PO service material, we assigned account assignment category 4.Reasonis Service material was not showing on G\R account.
The G\L account 7898788, we assigned to Service Item (material type DIEN) , for G\Cost 7898788 cost element is assigned in OKB9. Combination business + order 3478787.
Now conflict with sales order cost objective vs OKB9 internal order cost object.
While posting intercompany IR posting system thronging below error messageu2026
Enter only one true account assignment
Message no. KI249
Diagnosis
You made assignments to several objects in CO (cost center, order, project etc.). 2 of these have been created as true objects.
System Response
You are allowed only one account assignment for each cost-relevant account
How to resolve this issue.. Do I make any config changes in the system to overcome this issue?
Or any sub account to assin in VKOA config for internal orderu2026
Regards,
Adi

Hi Waman,
Thanks for your inputs.
Issue : IR failed to post for wax Sales Order -> ICPO - Error: Enter only one true account assignmentu2019.
Background:
Original setup in Test system & Productionu2013 account determination for servive (DIEN) account assignment category u20184u2019 was linked to G/L Account 34444444, As part of project orange u2019, account determination was linked to account u201889710100u2019.
Account u20188970100u2019 34444444 was replaced with 8970100 ,is not linked to any cost center & always post with reference to IC Sales Order as per config in OKB9 based on company code (US99) + cost element (89701100) + business area (9yyy). This caused a conflict while posting IR, system could not determine exact order for posting financial value.
Conflict: Actual Sales Order 34789343 is linked to PO via account assignment category & IC dummy sales order (8014331) is determine via config setting. Two cost objects cannot be linked to one IR G/L account booking.
Regards,
Adi

Open Balance on Sales Order Cost Report

Hi SAP Group -
I have a couple questions about the settlement of manufacturing variance to COPA.
When our settlement process is complete (production order and sales order both settled to COPA), there is a balance remaining on the sales order cost report which is equal to the manufacturing variance on the production order.
It seems that the manufacturing variance is posting from the production order to the sales order, but is not being assigned to the PSEG and flowing to COPA.
I am looking for advice in two areas:
First, how do we "clear" these balances on old orders that are already settled?
Second, how do we prevent this from happening on future orders?
Thanks !!!

Refer to OSS 183250 and note 186485.
If you dont specify in the settlement profile for the production order that the variances are not transferred from the production order into CO-PA, you will settle the variances to <b>CO-PA twice</b>: once from the production order (broken down into variance categories), and once from the sales order item. The settlement rule still references the material and not the sales order item.
Special Features of Product Cost by Sales Order with Valuated Sales Order Stock
<a href="http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/90/ba66cc446711d189420000e829fbbd/content.htm">Read the topic on 'Special Features of Product Cost by Sales Order with Valuated Sales Order Stock'</a>
You may want to check the period of the variance settlement from mfg order to sales order and ensure the settlement of sales order is also done the same period, if the type is PER.

Sales order cost estimate with GIT account

Hi,
Business introduced Goods - in - Transit (Balance sheet account), so PGI will always post to GIT and Invoice it will get reversed.
For one of the Configuratble material (MTO) scenario we need the Sales order cost estimate to get the Planned cost.
When i try to execute the sales order cost estimate it says cost element doesnot exist for GIT GL (WHich is right).
But with maintaining the GIT how to achieve the sales order cost estimate.
I tried to create CE category 90 for GIT, in Cost estimate am getting error CE 90 not supported for Cost estimate.
Kindly help this is kind of urgent req for us
Thanks,
Sudha

Hello Ashley
Yes, if you have done your settings correctly, especially Requirements class set up (see the documentation link), then the cost estimate will flow to a condition type in Pricing, usually EK01/EK02 conditions. These conditions are used to calculate sales prices (PR00) in cost-plus (mark-up) scenarios.
Link: http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/90/ba6da4446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
However Profit margin as calculated in a sales order comes from VPRS condition (which is based in Material Master) and is the difference of net value and VPRS condition value in normal circumstance.
Hope other more knowledgeable experts will weigh in.

Sales order cost estimate not happening because of GIT B/S account

Hi,
Requirement is to have Goods in Transit account in PGI and reverse it in Invoice no issues iwth it.
For the same sales order user wants to get cost using sales order cost estimate.
When i run that am getting following error
Item 00001 : Cost element 14001212 does not exist in CO area 0010 for 10/07/2011
Message no. KK689
Even though i maintain the CE for Balance sheet account with Cost element category 90 its not accpeting.
Can you please help me on how to proceed for sales order cost estimate.
Thanks,
sudha

hi,
if you give a balance sheet account in obyc , you will not be able to create a cost elementin category 01 , accordignly system will give error in sales order costing , as its not able to get correct cost element in cost planning.
if your requirement is just to post cogs to a balance sheet account which is goods in transit and when invoice is done cogs to be posted.
you should actually use revenue based RA functionality on sales order instead of assinging a balance sheet account in obyc.
in this approach;
- first assign a p/l account in obyc and create cost element in cateogry 01.
- create revenue based RA and assign RA key in requirement class.
- in OKG8 for RA category WIPR and your ra key assign , goods in transit account and give a offsetting account which is not cost element (credit entry in offsetting account nullify debit in account given in OBYC when GIT is posted , when billing is done system will automatically post a oppsite entry in both account).
-in OKG8 for RA category COSR give the COGS account and a offsetting account without cost element (credit entry in offsetting account nullify debit in account given in OBYC when COGS is posted).
regards
rajesh

Sale order costing process : Help required

Hello All,
Belatted Happy New Year 2011 to all.
I have a question related to Sale Order Costing. It goes like this,
My client is into Pipe coating business who receives the pipe from the customers, coats it as per there requirements and despatches it thereon. There is no concept of FG here as its only the service he is doing on it and also when he receives the pipe there is no raw material cost on it. Raw materials for him would be chemicals etc which he uses to coat the pipe.
And also this demands variant configuration from SD and PP angel.
As this scenario is customer specific, it demands Sale Order based costing(Sale order cost estimate).
My doubt is, how the sale order costing process goes with.
In general scenarios, Make to stock, we use production order based costing where standard cost estimate is calculated for planned cost and actuals are incurred on PO settling the variance to COPA
Similarly how the costing goes with if Sale order cost estimate is used. What i think is, here instead of Standard cost estimate for plan, we will go with Sale order cost estimate at sale order level, and incur actual cost at production order and settle the cost of Production order to Sale order. Correct me if i am wrong, and request you ppl there to explain me the process of costing in the scenario said above.
apart from that, my client wants the flexibility to change the cost estimate at quotation level.
Please suggest me with solution explaining the process of costing here.
Thanks in advance,
Ravi Kumar

Hi Ravi
Your understanding of the scenario is very much right...
In your case, you need to have sales order as cost object...
Process
Your stock would be non valuated stock, because the FG is not your stock.. You are just doing a service
Based on the characteristics chosen in the Sales orders, system would determine the Sales order BOM
Based on sales order BOM, Sales order cost estimate would be calculated....
You would receive the Customer pipe in your stock against the sales order... It would be a non valuated GR... You can track the Qty only
Sales order would trigger a production order... The prod order can have its planned cost, which is only for information sake
The Customer Pipe, Chemicals would be issued to prod order to coat the pipe... And also Labor/machine hrs may be confirmed
There after your production order would be settled on Sales order
Then you would do PGI (Post Goods Isue).. This will not trigger any accounting doc
Then you do billing... The sales revenue would be posted on the sales order
Then you settle the sales order to COPA.. This will close the cycle
Configuration
The IMG Settings required would be as below
1. You would use account assignment category (AAC) E
2. Create a Requirement class with
a. AAC = E.... (Means sales order is CO Object)
b. Valuation Indicator = BLANK (Means Non Valuated Stock)
c. Costing ID/Costing Method = As per your choice to calculate the Sales order cost estimate
3. Assign this req class to Requirement Type
4. Give this req type to your PP/SD team.. They would assign it to Strategy group / Item Category to determine it in the sales order
Regards
Ajay M

Sales order costing - tracking of actual costs at sales order item level

Hi
We are going with sales order costing for services
Service material is non-valuated hence the scenario is non-valuated sales order stock
PP module is not implemented.
I am having following questions
1. How to track the actual costs at sales order item level? Is Internal order/CO production order is required to be created for the same?
2. Can I do activity confirmations directly from cost center to sales order item.
3. Can Raw material is issued directly against sales order item.
4. Is Sales order is a real or statistical account assignment object?

dear friend,
please look here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/42/d7248ab27111d19e9a080009b0db33/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/90/ba6cfb446711d189420000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
reagrds,

Sales order costing for Configured Material (Material Variant Not KMAT Mat)

Hi All
For a Configured Material (Variant) (Not KMAT Material), which is having Std price costed.
But if we create a Sales Order for the Configured Material, what options are availale to Execute Sales order costing and take the sales order value to COGS during Delivery.
The reason being Client wants to Cost BOM items are price which is different from the Price used in Std cost estimate due to Price Volatility.
I can understand we can do this in KMAT, but not sure how to do in Conifgured material. We can execute sales order costing and get Statistical cost value in EK02/EK01, but how to get this value posted during PGI..?
Thanks
Aravind

Hi Ajay
Even if i maintain M in Valuation filed, my Material Variant HALB material is already having standard cost in its material master and it is picking the std cost during PGI Delivery and hitting COGS A/c.
Now how to get my sales order costing to real and post my sales order costing value to GI..this is the client requirement.
Due some complication KMAT is not used and logistics go with Material Variant

Non Valuated - Sales order costing

Hello All,
We are planning to use Non Valuated - Sales order costing for our client. My understanding is as follows :-
1. Production order is automatically created from Sales order created (for ex item 010 - Material X) : Production order 1
2. Sub- production order is also created if there is material Y , in the BoM of Material X & needs production : Production order 2 (linked to Production order 1).
3. When GR is done on any on these production orders - no FI entry is posted.
4. On settlement value of Production order 2 is settled in Production order 1.
5. Further Production order 1 value is flow to Sales order line item 010
6. Revenue is generated from Sales order for this item, when Invoice is posted. Still not COGS for delivery.
7. And only on settlement of this Sales order : FI posting is done for COGS.
Please let me know whether my understanding is correct point wise. Thanks
Now I have few questions to clarify, in above example :-
1. Generally these are new product (Material X) hence no standard cost is available for them. When does the cost estimate happens in such scenario. Is it when the first GR of material will happen ? When do I start see this cost estimate in Sales order.
2. Till the time Production order 2 & 1 are not settled ... Do we see WIP at the production order level when we run WIP calcualtion for production orders ?
3. What about the variances ? I have read variance calculation is not possible. Can you please elaborate why & what is avilable other than that ?
Thanks in advance for reading a long query

Hi Rajeshwari
1. If you use ABC - Then COGS split wont be available
2. Main diff between Valuated and Non val stock - Is once you produce and till you sell, the stock will appear in your balance sheet....
Non Val shud be chosen whe you make a material completely customized to the needs of a customer and the time lag between mfg and sale is very less....
If above two are not the case, then stock must be non valuated
3. Implementing the same template or introducing Val Sales order stock depends on the business needs.... The criteria to decide shud be based on (2) above
Also, if the new business where you are implementing now is the same as the existing business which is using non valuated stock, then you shud stick to the same template
4. Sales order cost estimate gets created during creation of SO, using the costing variant specified in req class... Not created during GR
5. Sales order costing does not make sense during Non Val Stock.... Unit Costing or prel costing you use during val Stock
Unit costing means you dont want to maintain a BOM... And you specify the components during sales order costing
6. I dont think you can settle prod order 2 to SDI.. You can try to change the settlement rule... In my opinion, you can not do it
Regards
Ajay M

BOM not picking correctly in Sales Order Costing

Hi,
During Sales Order costing of configurable material Say ABC is configurable material(finished material) and it has 4 components. I am using standard sales order costing variant as PPC4. During sales order costing from VA22(quotation) of the material ABC(finished material) system take its first two components during costing. Remaining two components system does not take. It shows correctly BOM usage as 2. But two components are missing during calculation.. What may be reaon or special configuration is required for sales order costing ?
Best Reagrds,
Samrat

Dear,
please check your condition type : Ek02
It is used for statistical posting. If you use this condition type, the result of unit costing is simply a statistical value which you can compare with the price. So, this can be can used instead of VPRS to calculate the profit margin for the assembly item.
Please note the following points:
1) The condition type must have condition category 'Q' (costing).
2) The condition type must agree with the condition type defined for unit costing in the pricing procedure.
So, EK01 & EK02 are the condition type that will display the results of the unit costing for certain type of sales document and can be used in Make To Order scenario.
Sales order cost estimate can be flow to COPA. Where you have to maintain setting in COPA in Define access to Standard cost estimate for costing key select sales order cost estimate.
For transfer SD to COPA you have to use Transaction KE4I here enter SD conditions with COPA Value fields.
So, whether EK01 or EK02, these will determine from Requirement class configuration. Requirement class in turn there is requirement type and requirement type is determined by item category and MRP type when you cost a sales order (valuated/non valuated sales order) at that time when save the cost estimate then the cost value automatically gets populated in your condition tab. Hence, if the item is not relevant to sales order costing then the cost comes from VPRS.
For more details please check below links
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPLO/VPRS%2C+EK01%28ActualCost%29andEK02%28Calculated+Cost%29
Std Cost Calculation in Sales Order - EK02 and by T-Code CK11N
Thanks,
Ram

Sales order costing release not possible due to Goods in transti account

Hi,
Business introduced Goods - in - Transit (Balance sheet account), so PGI will always post to GIT and Invoice it will get reversed.
For one of the Configuratble material (MTO) scenario we need the Sales order cost estimate to get the Planned cost.
When i try to execute the sales order cost estimate it says cost element doesnot exist for GIT GL (WHich is right).
But with maintaining the GIT how to achieve the sales order cost estimate.
Can you please help me in this regards.
Thanks,
Sudha

Hi Ajay,
I have created GIT (B/S) account with CE category 90.
but in sales order cost estimate getting message " inconsistancy in CE category" CE category 90 is not accetable it should be either 01/02
can you please help to move forward on sales order cost estimate with GIT account
Thanks,
sudha

In which scenario sales order costing is needed ?

Is it mandatory to have every time for a sales order to have sales order costing?
is it mandatory to have SO costing in MTO scenerios always?
in which scenerio SO costing is not applicable in MTO scenerio ?

Dear ,
POC is a Cost object in Product Cost by Period that collects the periodic actual costs incurred in the production of a materia.
Product cost collectors are independent of the production type. This means that you can collect actual costs on product cost collectors in the following production environments:
In order-related production (that is, when you are using production orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
In process manufacturing (that is, when you are using process orders) when you want to analyze the costs by period rather than by lot
Repetitive manufacturing : In repetitive manufacturing you always use product cost collectors as cost objects.
Few important points from Forum Experts
u2022 Object in cost accounting used in Repetitive Manufacturing.
u2022 A separate product cost collector can be created for each production version or material. The collected costs are settled to inventory at the end of the period.
u2022 The functions performed for product cost collector during the period end closing process include :
u2022 Work in process (WIP) caculation
u2022 Variance calculation
u2022 Settlement
u2022 In Repetitive Manufacturing, all costs attributed to the production of a material are collected on a product cost collector and settled periodically (period-based Controlling).
u2022 The product cost collector is settled periodically according to the posting period (for example monthly) .
u2022 For a material , product cost collector is made for each version
u2022 The actual cost collected can be viewed through product cost collector
you cannot use product cost collectorsfor the following:
- Production orders or process orders that are manufactured for a sales order stock or project stock
- Production orders or process orders that are part of a collective order
- Joint production environments
Hope this will give you an idea .
Regards
JH

User Exit or BADI on saving of Sales order cost estimate (CK51N)

Hi,
Can any one share with me what are the User Exit or BADI that gets triggered on saving of Sales order cost estimate (CK51N).
Regards,
Bijay

Hi
Check the link
Need Enhancement Spot or BADI for transaction ck51n
Regards
Sanil

Sales Order Cost Estimates -- Versions?

In our MTS plant we are creating cost estimates each month with different version numbers so they can easily be compared to review cost changes.
This concept in our MTO plant is (of course) a problem.
We would like to create a dummy sales order and on each line list a KMAT and build an "average" configuration. We use variant config, so the sales order bom is built automatically. It also costs automatically. We would like to save this cost estimate and compare it with a cost estimate of the same configuration next month. I do not have an option for version CK51n, nor do I see a Costing Date in KEKO table. Either of these items for MTS would create a second cost estimat and allow comparison.
Is there a way to compare Sale Order Cost Estimates across periods?
Any other suggestions as to how to obtain the required data??
Thank you for all suggestions!!

Any one think of a solution?
thanks

Sales order - cost center posting

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