Sales Return - 451 movement

Dear Friends,
What is the role and description of 451 movement. This movement weather we can use in sales return (RE). If i can use this what are the impacts in fi and mm. Please tell me if any body knows.
Reg
Eswar

Dear Eshwar
No you should not use 451 movement for sales return. Go through the link for more details
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/a5/63360a43a211d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm">Customer Returns</a>
Thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

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I am using ecc 6.0. ides. I am not authorized to access OSS notes. I have searched a lot for solution. But i could not find any soluton.
I created sales return in VA01 and sales return deliviry in VL01N. So in VL01N transaction 651 movement type is being used and no any accounting document created. I have to use 453 movement type in MB1B t.c. in order to uptade (namely reverse of cost of good sold posting) cost of good sold and materialgl accounts. In that t.c. accounting document is created but the value that is being is posted is not correct.
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Or how can i make configurations in order to directly update cost of good sold and materials gl accounts in VL01N t.c.?
Please with tc code reference.
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Hi,
In case of Std. Sales Return the movement type which is triggered is 653.
Please check whether your are using the standard Item category REN incase of Returns. Also check whether your Schedule line category is DN ?
The mov.type in delivery is picked up based on your schedule line settings in VOV6 transaction.
Please change the mov.type to 653 in the above settings & check for the corresponding scheduleline category.
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Sales Returns Stock posting using movement type 651

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I want to upload the sales returns stock using movement type 651. Because, our existing company code 'xxxx' has been changed to 'zzzz' and all the stocks, balances and so on has been uploaded and carry forwarded to new company code 'zzzz'.
Now, I stuck with the customer/sales returns stock. Also, I know that there is no accounting effects with the movement type 651 i.e., blocked stock stored in customer rejection storage location.
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First of all, sorry for late reply.
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How to return back stock from sales return where those items were Customer Return that sold using legacy system before using SAP. Now we need to put back those stock as unrestricted stock, however, we have problem here that we do not have reference documents to perform sales return in SAP.
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If your intension is to take only the stock into SAP, then you can take the returned stocks directly via MB1A with movement type 292 where you can maintain the original sale order reference in the field "Doc.Header Text" which will be passed on to FI table BKPF. Parallelly, an FI entry can also be passed to make a credit entry against that customer account.
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We are having a sales return scenario in depot which we are executing in following way.
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Dear Lakshmipathi,
Thanks for the reply, did go through the thread that you have suggested before i posted this one.
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5 Create Transfer posting in MB1B with movement type 453, storage location 0005 and save
6 Note down the material document reference
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There is a scenarion where in materials are sold from a Depot. The process we are following is that we are preparing the sales order, then the delivery document with respect to the sales order. After the delivery document is created we are updating the RG23D register through J1IJ, with reference to the delivery document. Then we are preparing the billing document with reference to the delivery document.
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1) Create a Depot return sales order in VA01 with reference to original billing document
2) Create Delivery
3) Create Transfer Posting using MB1B with Movement type 453 and dont forget to make a note of the material document number
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2) Verify this by going to tables J_1IEXCHDR & J_1RG23D. Check GRPO entry in both the tables where the status must have changed to "D"
3) The original excise invoice can be cancelled via J1IH and check whether DLFC entry has the status "R" and at this time entry CEIV is also created confirming excise invoice and CENVAT reversal.
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In one of the scenarios of Sales Return, customers raises debit memo while returning the goods, so my client makes the payment for that, in the next step if the material can be rectified he does the needed rectification and again delivers the material to the same customer with a new invoice, please suggest how to Map this.
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Hi,
I think your client dont control returned material in the system. So u don't use return process.
You can control returned material without system, and after rectifition you use MB1C to goods receipt rectifited material.
Then use standard process to sell rectifited material (SO-DO-Bill)
This is the simplest.
In other case, u can use return processing
All returns against sales order are effected against sales order type RE.
1. Create a return request. (Using Sales Order in SD)
2. Create outbound delivery according to return request.
3. If the setting is correct in the outbound delivery screen SAP will automatically switch post goods issue button into post goods receipt. The setting is in sales order item category and delivery type.
4. In the standard system the movement type used is 651.
5. After post goods issues receipt is done using outbound delivery, the quantity is placed in blocked stock without value updating.
6. You will then decide if the return quantity are indeed bad stock or not.
7. Transfer Posting from block stock to unrestricted stock (mvt type 453), this will have accounting effect (Debit Inventory, Credit COGS)
8. SO-DO-Bill for Sales standard process
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Complaints & Sales Returns

Dear All,
Whenever Post goods receipt is done for the return sales order,if the material is activated for returns inspection (Inspection type 06) every time inspection lot gets generated.But what i want is inspection lot shd get generated only when it is a quality complaint.But if it is a excess sales return or anyother sales oriented reason inspection lot shd not get generated....pLzzz suggest any logic for this....
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using movement types you handle this scenarios.Like blocked stock,qulity inspection stock and unrestricted stock etc..
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Sales Returns for Excisable Finished Stock

Dear All,
I have read a post below with regards to sales returns for finished stock which updates RG1 register, as I understand RG1 register is a quantity register, and the movement types define the sales returns qty wise, However I have the following queries
If I send 10 qty of material to my customer the same is captured through my normal sales scenario where I create an outgoing excise invoice, however if the customer sends 3qtys back then I create Return Sales Order, Return Inbound Delivery and a Credit Memo, however from an excise point of view I need to use the t-code J1IH as suggested in the below post and click on additional excise and give the required details. However at the bottom there is a radio button tab RG23 A and RG23 C where in the system by default it is selected as RG23A.
My question is I will input an outgoing excise invoice where I need to give partial credit for the part qtys which the customer has returned and if I do click on RG23A tab( Since there is Radio Button) does it have any impact on the register RG23A value wise, as per my understanding RG23A is used from a purchase point of view for raw materials and RG23C is for purchase finished product and why is there no Radio Button indicating RG1 and it does have any impact on other register as well.
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Edited by: Gojolly99 on Jul 10, 2011 8:21 AM
Edited by: Gojolly99 on Jul 10, 2011 8:38 AM

Dear Siddhartha,
This functionality was available in standard it self, Chose order type RE, Configure Delivery (PGR) and billing documents for the order type. It will reversal automatically the excise and sales etc..
In sales, customer will get debit and sales will get credit, so once you can take return this will get reverse including excise, sales and cst / vat.
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Eswar

Reversal of Sales return for exrta stock

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as per scenario,we sold our product to customer but after dispatch, product got damaged before reched to customer due to accident.we took return all product as sale retun in SAP. Now problem is we sold 160 Handling Unit,but while taking sale return user took all 160 Handling Unit instead of 158 Handling unit.
now 2 HU are extra in stock and we want to remove that stock from system,and we cant do 652 for that 2 HU.
which process in sap will solve this problem.
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thanks for reply
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Sales return

Dear sap Gurus,
In sales return scenario which is the t code and mov type to transfer the stocks from returns column to unrestricted use column..i am confused as there are too many movements types sugessted.....can anyone through light on the same.
Experts will be rewarded with points....
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Shruthi D Seth

Hi,
sales returns is a process in which the customer returns the material supplied to him may be because of poor quality, functionality not proper,etc. We configure the process in SAP in the following way:
The return sales order - order type is RE in SAP. The item category for this item is REN. In VOV8 copy RE and maintain yous with name changed. save it.
The return sales order is always created in reference to an original invoice. Why because for a sales order containing 5 items of different quantities the deliveries may have been different and accordingly the invoice also may have been different. So actually the invoice may contain only one item amongst the 5 items. If this item is rejected the original invoice is taken into consideration for reference.
Create return sales order - VA01 enter the sales area and click on create with reference. go to invoice tab select the original invoice and copy it. Check the quantity and create the sales order. save it.
go to VL01N - create returns delivery, do the PGR9post goods receipt). Save it.
fo to VF01 - create credit memo. save it.
Normal process flow
RE - LR - RE.
Transaction code for transferring the returns goods from returns to unrestricted stock. - "MB1B" and movement type is "453"
Hope this will solve your problem. Reward points if solution found useful.
Regards,
Allabaqsh. G. Patil

QM-SD: Sales Return Inspection lot status Error

Hello Expert,
I want to post Goods receipt in a Returns delivery with QM activated in the material but the following message is displayed:
Status of inspection lot 060000000001 / partial lot 000000 does not allow good issue
Message no. VL171
The inspection type is 06 (Inspection for Returns from Customer).
The movement type is the 651.
I thought that the inspection lot was created when you post the Good receipt, not when you create the delivery, and the stock material would be Qual. Inspection. So, then I should run QA11 click on Accepted in the UD to transfer the stock to Unrestricted use.
Summarizing, the inspection lot is being created when I create the delivery. I can post GR only after running QA11. But then another inspection lot is created and the stock is posted in Returns. I think that the standard should not work like this.
Please let me know what could be the reason for the error for goods issue for sales return?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
Sales Return Inspection lot status Error

Dear Nunez
1) 06 inspection lot gets created when you create a delivery not when you do the GR.
2) for 651 movement type only 06 inspection lot will be created and this lot will not be stock specefic. You cannot do stock posting for this lot
3) if you need an inspection lot while doing the GR of the delivery then kindly do the following
1) make use of movement type 653 instead of 651
2) activate 05 inspection in the material master. (deactivate 06)
3) for delivery type LR ( the delivery type you are using for the return ) maintain 05 inspection type in the config
SPRO > QM> Quality Inspection> Inspection Lot Creation>Inspection at Shipping>Assign Inspection Lot Origin to Delivery Type>LR 05inspection type.
Now create the return sales order and then do PGR. inspection 05 will be created. you can do the stock posting in this lot
regards
gajesh

New Scnario in sales return

Dear Friends,
My Client is textile sector, i Have a scnario that in sales return the material should directly move from one customer to another customer
for eg:i have invoiced to customer "A" now the customer "A" want to return the materials. instead of taking the material back to stock we want to move the material to customer "B" and raise a credit note to Customer "A" and invoice to Customer "B".
How to configure this in SAP Sales return cycle.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Ramesh.

Hi,
this is very common scenario, i have seen this in my two implementation and did best out of available solutions.
1. when stock transferring from one customer to another customer if it is with the knowledge of ur sales person and understanding between two customers then no need of accounting entry in business, because one customer sends and the other customer receives the goods and pays the amount, in turn that sending customer pays that amount to the business. there is no returns entry in business. mostly this happens any business. sales person deal with this outside business.
2. if business wants this info officially, then there is no other way except doing entire returns process.
take returns from returning customer, give him credit note and send that goods to the customer who receiving it and make a fresh invoice for that.
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SD-QM: Sales Return Inspection lot status Error

Hello Expert,
I want to post Goods receipt in a Returns delivery with QM activated in the material but the following message is displayed:
Status of inspection lot 060000000001 / partial lot 000000 does not allow good issue
Message no. VL171
The inspection type is 06 (Inspection for Returns from Customer).
The movement type is the 651.
I thought that the inspection lot was created when you post the Good receipt, not when you create the delivery, and the stock material would be Qual. Inspection. So, then I should run QA11 click on Accepted in the UD to transfer the stock to Unrestricted use.
Summarizing, the inspection lot is being created when I create the delivery. I can post GR only after running QA11. But then another inspection lot is created and the stock is posted in Returns. I think that the standard should not work like this.
Please let me know what could be the reason for the error for goods issue for sales return?
Thanks in advance.
Pablo
Sales Return Inspection lot status Error

Dear Nunez
1) 06 inspection lot gets created when you create a delivery not when you do the GR.
2) for 651 movement type only 06 inspection lot will be created and this lot will not be stock specefic. You cannot do stock posting for this lot
3) if you need an inspection lot while doing the GR of the delivery then kindly do the following
1) make use of movement type 653 instead of 651
2) activate 05 inspection in the material master. (deactivate 06)
3) for delivery type LR ( the delivery type you are using for the return ) maintain 05 inspection type in the config
SPRO > QM> Quality Inspection> Inspection Lot Creation>Inspection at Shipping>Assign Inspection Lot Origin to Delivery Type>LR 05inspection type.
Now create the return sales order and then do PGR. inspection 05 will be created. you can do the stock posting in this lot
regards
gajesh

QM in Sales return

Hi
My scenario is
We need to use 2 inpection types and 2 movement types for the Sales retuns(Insp type - 05 and Z5 and Movt type - 655 and Z55) for the below scenario.
1. If my customer is really retuning the material, i need to generate the inspection lot with 05 thro 655 movement type. During UD, the stock will get posted to un restricted or scrap based upon the insepction results.
2.But my customer is not really returning the material ,i need to receive the material in SAP with inspection type Z5 thro Z55 movement type and post the stock directly in Scrap by using automatic UD through QA17.
The both inspection type with same lot origin has to be used in the material master. System has to pick the inspection type based upon the movement type used during sales return.
Can it done through standard or using User Exit QAAT0001 ?
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Sridhar.R

Hi Sridhar,
Kindly excuse me, but I find contradictory situation here, especially for point number 2.
"customer is not really returning the material ,i need to receive the material in SAP
Will you please elaborate this? If customer has not sent back the material to you, how can you inward it at your premises?
Seems that you want to track customer complaints (correct me if my understanding goes wrong), for incidences for which customer has not physically sent the material back. I would advise if such is the case, you should use notification type Q1 in QM01.
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