SAP PP-u201C Planning at Phantom Assembly level (59) u2018

Hello SAP-Guruu2019s
Pls explain the Strategy u201C Planning at Phantom Assembly level (59) u2018 and pls give any examples if possible.
Thanks in advance

Dear,
Plesae refer this link,
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/cb/7f9b7043b711d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Here you will get the best example and explanation also after that come back if any problem.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

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Planning at Phantom Assembly Level (59)

SAP help says that backflush of components should be enabled and flushed together.e.g in 1st operation.
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Please Follow this Link as they Have Elobrated Nicely with One Senario
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Pls explain the Strategy u201C Planning at Assembly level(70)u201D & u201C Planning at Assembly level without final Assembly (74)u201D and pls give any examples if possible.
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Hi,
Planning at Assembly Level (70)
Purpose
This planning strategy is particularly useful for manufacturers of products with variants if a more
reliable forecast can be produced for certain assemblies than for the multitude of product
variants.
Prerequisites
You must maintain the master data of the assembly as follows:
Strategy group 70 on the MRP screen.
Set the indicator for assembly planning, the Mixed MRP indicator, to 1 on the MRP
screen.
Consumption parameters (Consumption mode, Bwd consumption, Fwd consumption on
the MRP screen) to allow for consumption of planned independent requirements.
If you are using this strategy in a make-to-stock environment, you also must set the
Individual/coll. indicator to 2 on the MRP screen.
Reduction
Consumption
This strategy is very similar to Planning with Final Assembly (40) However, planned
independent requirements are consumed by production order requirements (or schedule lines in
repetitive manufacturing) and not to requirements of sales orders.
1. Stock for the assembly usually exists.
2. Planned independent requirements are entered at assembly level. Procurement (planned
by means of the planned independent requirements) is therefore triggered before the
production order stage (or schedule line in repetitive manufacturing).
3. The planned orders for the assembly/components are convertible.
4. Procurement smoothing according to order demand is possible. In this strategy,
however, the ability to react flexibly to customer requirements is more important.
5. An accurate availability check is performed according to ATP logic during production
order processing.
6. Requirements from production orders (or schedule lines) are passed on to production
and can lead to changes to procurement after the sales order stage, if the order
quantities exceed the planned independent requirement quantities. However the order
quantities cannot be confirmed if there is insufficient coverage of components. The
system automatically adjusts the master plan. For more information see Coping with
Insufficient Coverage of Components .
7. The planned independent requirements are consumed during the production stage. This
means that you can compare the planned independent requirements situation with the
actual order requirements.
Unconsumed planned independent requirement quantities increase the warehouse stock of the
component, and cause procurement to be decreased or not to take place at all in the next period.
This procedure is called "netting."
Sample Scenario: Strategy 70
Process Flow
This example is based on a production plan in which 100 pieces are planned for <reqdat1>,
<reqdat2>, and <reqdat1>.
Stage 1: Demand Management
1.In this scenario, planned independent requirements are created as follows for the
production plan.
Period indicator Reqmts date Planned qty Value
T (= day) <reqdat1> 100 10,000.00
T (= day) <reqdat2> 100 10,000.00
T (= day) <reqdat3> 100 10,000.00
The system will find requirements type VSFB because the strategy group has been set
to 70.
2. The requirements are passed on to MRP. The stock/requirements list (Logistics
Production   MRP   Evaluations   Stock/reqmts list) displays the following
information:
Date MRP element MRP element data Received/
required
quantity
Available quantity
<today> Stock 0
<reqdat1> IndReq VSFB 100 - 100 -
<reqdat2> IndReq VSFB 100 - 200 -
<reqdat3> IndReq VSFB 100 - 300 -
Stage 2: Procurement Before Use in Production
1. A procurement requisition is created in the MRP run (Logistics   Production   MRP
Total planning). The stock/requirements list displays the following information:
Date MRP element MRP element data Received/
required
quantity
Available quantity
<today> Stock 0
<reqdat1> PlOrd. 123/STCK 100 100
<reqdat1> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
<reqdat2> PlOrd. 124/STCK 100 100
<reqdat2> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
<reqdat3> PlOrd. 125/STCK 100 100
<reqdat3> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
This procurement requisition is the starting point for production or external procurement.
You have a variety of options for handling the procurement process in the R/3 System.
One possibility would be to convert the planned order into a production order, release of
the production order and a goods receipt of the yield quantity. It is also possible,
however, to use returns or other goods movements for make-to-stock production.
2. After goods receipt for the order, the stock/requirements list displays the following
information:
Date MRP element MRP element data Received/
required
quantity
Available quantity
<today> Stock 200
<reqdat1> IndReq VSFB 100 - 100
<reqdat2> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
<reqdat3> PlOrd. 125/SDeb 100 100
<reqdat3> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
Stage 3: Production Order and Allocation
A production order that uses the planned component is created (Logistics   Production
Production control   Order   Create).
An availability check is performed in the order (Component   Availability   Check availability).
In this example, it is assumed that production is 50 pieces of the material and the
material has an in-house production time of zero.
A popup appears containing the following information:
Requirements date <today>
Requirements quantity 50
Availability check (checking group) 02
ATP quantity 200
Confirmation date <today>
Confirmation quantity 50
This availability check is always performed according to ATP logic. See Availability Check [Page
157].
The production order quantity, which is not visible in the production order, is allocated to the
component quantity. You can, however, control the allocation in the stock/requirements list or in
the total requirements list. The total requirements list displays the following information:
Requirements type Date Allocated quantity Total quantity
VSFB 300
<reqdat1> 100
RESE <reqdat1> 50
<today> 50
<reqdat2> 100
<reqdat3> 100
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information:
Date MRP element MRP element data Received/
required
quantity
Available quantity
<today> Stock 200
<today> OrdRes SZ-10 50 - 150
<reqdat1> IndReq VSFB 50 - 100
<reqdat2> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
<reqdat3> PlOrd. 125/STCK 100 100
<reqdat3> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
Any parent material that consists of this component is automatically allocated to this plan. In
practice, there are several header materials (like SZ-10 in this example) that allocate this
material.
Stage 4: Procurement After Production
This does not apply to this strategy.
Stage 5: Goods Issue for Production Order
After goods issue for the production order (Logistics   Materials management   Inventory
management   Goods movement   Goods issue), the stock/requirements list displays the
following information:
Date MRP element MRP element data Received/
required
quantity
Available quantity
<today> Stock 150
< reqdat1> IndReq VSFB 50 - 100
<reqdat2> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
<reqdat3> PlOrd. 125/STCK 100 100
<reqdat3> IndReq VSFB 100 - 0
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Regards,
Tejas

Unable to View low level items for Phantom Assembly - Order created in APO

Hi All,
I am unable to view the sub items when I create planned orders in APO and production orders in ECC. But when the order for the same material is created in ECC, I can see all the sub items. I see that this issue is only for Phantom Assemblies.
And I cannot say that all the items in the Phantom do not appear, actually some of them do appear in BOM explosion.
For example:
Pld Ord is created for A in APO
Prd Ord for A is created in ECC
A has B, C and F as requirements
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B has D and F as requirements
Then my BOM explosion shows
..1 B
..2 D
..1 C
..2 D
..2 E
..1 F (This only gives the quantity required to make A)
But it should also list how much of F (..2 F) is required to make B.
Where as it comes up in ECC.
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Hi All,
I am unable to view the sub items when I create planned orders in APO and production orders in ECC. But when the order for the same material is created in ECC, I can see all the sub items. I see that this issue is only for Phantom Assemblies.
And I cannot say that all the items in the Phantom do not appear, actually some of them do appear in BOM explosion.
For example:
Pld Ord is created for A in APO
Prd Ord for A is created in ECC
A has B, C and F as requirements
and B is phantom
B has D and F as requirements
Then my BOM explosion shows
..1 B
..2 D
..1 C
..2 D
..2 E
..1 F (This only gives the quantity required to make A)
But it should also list how much of F (..2 F) is required to make B.
Where as it comes up in ECC.
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PP - Phantom Assembly Alt Item in BOM not loaded in Planned Order

Hi all,
I have a scenario where in my finished product, I have several components organized in Alternate Group, and for each group, I define a component as Prime (100% usage) and others as Alternate (0% utilization). Among these there are some components that are configured as Phantom (Special Procurement 50), and these Phantom items, when they are Alternate in the BOM, ie, 0% Probability of Use in Alternate Item Group, it is not loaded in the list of components in Planned Order. Only the Phantom that is as Prime in BOM is showed in the Planned Order, together with their subcomponents.
The other components that are not phantom, usually appear within the Planned Order, those that have 100% utilization, and those who have 0% utilization set in the BOM. Obviously, all requirement is pointed in the Prime Item, but I can change according to availability of material in MDVP or manually in CO02.
When the Production Order is created directly by CO01, without conversion of planned order, the list of components typically brings all the Phantoms, independently of the Probability Use %.
Someone tell me if there is some kind of configuration to allow the Phantoms Optional also be uploaded to the component list of planned orders without having to change the percentage of use in BOM.
Thanks in advance.

Hello MCantos,
When you have maintained the usage probability as 0% for a alternative component, that means you do not want that partular material to be planned further. In short this is just an Engineering Relevant Material (is not required in Production activity).
When this alternate material with usage probability 0% is phantom material, you want its components to be proposed. But you yourself have answered that this phantom material has usage probability 0% and this means it is not required in Production and thus its components as well are not required. Thus system is not exploding the BOM and proposing the material at the time of Production activity.
Hope I answered your query. Please check your usage probability for phantom assembly part and if required correct the same so that you can achive what you want.
Thanks,
Rahul.

Phantom Assembly Planned Order in APO

Sub : Incorrect quantity and Bucket for component in scenario of Phantom Assembly
Hi Gents,
I am using the Optimizer planning run for a scenario with Phantom assembly.
The master data has been used below
Material u2013 862700 (Finished goods)
1091895 (Phantom assembly maintained for above FG)
Location - 8501
Planning Book - ZAL_SNP_PB_BG
Data View - ZAL_SNP_DV_BGF
Optimizer profile - ZAL_OPT_01
I have entered a demand for above FG on 22.02.2012 and running a optimizer by selecting both FG and Phantom assembly. As a result the optimizer has created the planned order for FG from 18th to 22nd Dec. 2012. The advancement of the planned order is due to production capacity constraint. When i analysed System has created planned order for phantom assembly in last two buckets of the planning book and heneceforth the component requirement it is appearing only on last 2 buckets of the planning book. The date for this dependent demand is 28th and 29th Feb.2012 and the quantity is also wrong for the components as per the BOM.
The result I am expecting as system should create the planned order and dependent demand for the component maintain below phantom assembly should be same FG planed order date and quantity of component should also give the right requirement as per the BOM.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
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HI Ipsita,
Did you try running it form SE38.
SE38 because in SE37 it is not necessary to give all the parameters..
But in SE38 you need to pass all the values required & Check form there.
Also you can check the details in PLAF-Table.
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Planned order is not creating for a phantom assembly

Dear experts
My fert having two semi finished components
first semifinished is assigned with a raw material
And second semifinished is assigned with two different raw material
in material master of second semifinished mrp2 view Special procurement=50
and after running mrp, second semifinished is not getting any planned order or dep requirement all the raw material under this getting planned order
But in my understanding of phantom second semifinished in should not get any planned order?
Am i correct?
Pls advise me where i need to check
Abu Fathiam

Hi,
Phantom assembly will generate planned order for its component when you will maintain:
Procurement type: E
Special procurement type: 50
Also in SPRO: OPPQ BOM explosion
Also check in BOM In basic data tab
In MRP Data screen, check explosion type- are you maintained phantom assembly off? Check it if you want planned order.
If you don't want system generated planned order for your phantom assembly component you should not maintain this indicator.
Regards,
Alok Tiwari
Edited by: Alok Kumar Tiwari on Feb 29, 2012 11:38 AM
Edited by: Alok Kumar Tiwari on Feb 29, 2012 11:39 AM

Phantom Assembly not exploding in production order

Hi All,
We are using phantom assembly as a BOM component.
When we create a planed order from MD03 or MD02 and try to convert this planed order to production order the components of Phantom assembly are not explode in production order. When I tried with read PP master data option it get explode.
Can you please let me know the reason?
Thanks,
SAP PQ

Dear ,
Couple of points on this issue which may help you understand the problem : Bom Explosion With Phantom Assemblies will happen based on the following set up .
1. You need to maintain the special procurement key-50 for the phantom Assembly
in the MRP 2 View of the material master
2. We can override the Phantom Assembly Setting by defining in SPRO --->
Define Explosion Types so that MRP Creates Procurement Propasals for the
Phantom Assembly itself.ie We can Swith off the Phantom Assembly Settings.
This settting need to be defined in the BOM Item details screen in the Basic
Data Tab Page under MRP Area.
So check in your Bom whether switch off phantom assembly is defined.Make the Explosion Type-Blank
3.Run MRP Single Item - Multi level - Transaction MD02 with Planning Mode 2 : 'Re-explode BOM and Routing'. The Phantom Item will now get exploded correctly in the Planned Order.
4.Check the Validity of the BOM and planning date
5.Check the MRP4 set up in FG where you have kept the BOM/Routing selection
6.Check wether dependent requirement material master -MRP4 view -MRP for Depent Requ should be blank .
Check the above points and come back
Regards
JH
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Jun 14, 2010 2:15 PM
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Jun 14, 2010 2:18 PM

SAP PP (Production Planning) Master Data Definitions

SAP PP (Production Planning) Master Data Definitions and Transaction codes.

SAP PP (Production Planning) Master Data Definitions
• Factory Calendar
• Material Master
• Resource • Bills of Material (BOM)
• Production versions
• Master recipe
Factory Calendar: The factory calendar is defined on the basis of a public holiday calendar. The public holiday and factory calendar is a central module in the SAP System. It is assigned to a specific plant during the initial system setup and therefore used in many areas (e.g. in Logistics and in Human Resources) in the system.
Material Master: Material master comprises if all the basic data of the material for each department. The data covers all the relevant information required for the transactional flow e.g. sales, Planning, Production, Quality, Purchasing, Costing etc. Material master covers all the descriptive and control data and the flow of information depends on fields maintained within it. The integration of all material data in a single database object eliminates redundant data storage. Material Masters are created once and can be changed or extended whenever required
Bill of Materials: Bill of Materials or commonly called BOM is a formally structured list of components that make up a product or assembly. The list contains the material number of the component together with the quantity and unit of measure. BOMs are used in their different forms in various situations where a finished product is assembled from several component parts or materials. Resources: Resources are production facilities and persons involved in a production process that have capacities. They are subdivided into categories to specify their suitability for certain purposes or their use in certain processes
Product Versions: A production version determines which alternative BOM is used together with which task list/master recipe to produce a material or create a master production schedule. For one material, we can have several production versions for various validity periods and lot-size ranges. The production version determines the following:
• The BOM alternative for a BOM explosion.
• The task list (master recipe) and any alternate, as needed.
• Lot-size restrictions and validity parameters.
Master Recipes: A master recipe defines the following data that is required for the production of materials without relating to a particular order: processing steps, resources, material components, and control information for the process control level. Master Recipe enables to plan the production of materials (products). Therefore, Master Recipe is used as a template for process orders and run schedules as well as a basis for product costing. In a Recipe
• The Phases (work steps) to be carried out during production.
• The activities to be performed in the operations as a basis for determining dates, capacity requirements and costs.
• The use of materials during production.
• The use of resource.

Phantom, Assembly, Reference Operation Set

Hi All,
I am always having a little confusion with follwoings, so could you please help me to understand clearly will be grateful.
What is Phantom ?
What is Assembly ?
What is the difference between Phantom & Assembly ?
What is Reference Operation Set ?
What is the difference between Routing and Reference Operation Set ?
At which situation Reference Operation Set is used instead of Routing in SAP?
Thanks in Advance

Hi Madhan,
Phantom
Phantom assembly is a logical grouping of material.
Design point of view it is assembled.
Physically not assembled, but logically it is assembled.
Ex: CAR
BOM Header: CAR
Item: ENGINE
For ENGINE: Items are cylinder, piston, crankshaft....Here engine is phantom... while manufacturing car, engine is mandatory so if u assign engine as phantom it won't create planned order for engine. We can direct issue the materials (such as cylinder, Piston, CS) to car; by that time it reduces the work of issue and receiving goods to engine assembly.
But if u want engine as spare parts that time u can create planned independent requirement for engine and u can stock as ordinary processes...
In material master of MRP 2 view spl. procurement key - 50.
or Assign in BOM item - make tick mark in phantom assmbly.
If you create in material master wherever the material, system consider as a phantom.
If you mark in BOM, only that particular BOM, system consider as a phantom.
There is no stocking of phantom material
Routing and Reference Operation Set
Refer below link
Routing & Reference Operation Set
Regards,
Sankaran

Phantom assembly backflush

If my header material is phantom assembly then can we backflush the phantom aeembly , not the components of that specific assembly?

Hi,
Why this situation arises?
If the header material is directly flowing into the next level asembly then we can go with Phantom Material concept. The convrsion activities can be included in the higher level assembly for the phantom.
If you want to backflush the Phantom then you need to keep the stock of it..
If that is the case then, it is not a Phantom.
One more thing is it is not logical to have Routing for the Phatom Matrial.
But, in SAP, you can do what you want..(either with Customizing or source code change).
I hope the implications are clear to you..
Regards,
Siva

Mrp for phantom assembly

Dear Gurus
My main item is a phantom assembly the sales order comes for the phantom assembly only.I have got a multilevel bom for this phantom assembly .The bom of the phantom assembly contains the semifinished item. And the bom of the semifinished item contain raw materials.Now while running MRP I dont want any planned orders to be generated for phantom assembly the system should create planned order for semifinished item and purchase requisition for raw material.How can it be done.
Regards
Sandip Sarkar

Hi,
Check the Planning Stratgy: [Planning with Planning MAterial without MTO|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a2/4e799a927d11d1800f00c04fadcb73/content.htm]..
It seems relevant to you Business..
Phantom will carry altogether different meening..
How will you handle the Stocks??
Regards,
Siva

Phantom assembly quantity change in production order

Hello experts,
We are producing 1 type of goods, but for 2 different customers. each of them has their own specification for packaging. as per system it was decided to not create another finished goods partnumber with additional BOM, but instead we created 2 phantom assemblies in 1 BOM. 1 of them is the main (for customer 1), another one is alternative (for customer 2).
Now the idea was that whenever Purchasing is maintaining materials in production orders they were supposed to switch quantity from main phantom assembly to alternative phantom assembly whenever goods were required for customer 2.
We quickly tested the possibility of quantity change on our test server, but not entirely. the thing is, that for some reason you can change phantom assembly required quantity only if it's already has required quantity higher than 0. otherwise the item is greyed out and you can't perform any changes in it.Same happens if you simply reduce required quantity of phantom assembly item to 0. once you do so - the item becomes greyed out as well.
So, the question is - is it some kind of settings in BOM\MMD that prevents user from changing quantities for phantom assemblies (and if it is - where exactly you can change it), or it's something else (like i dunno, maybe user authorization issue or something).
Any help will be appreciated.
P.S. - i know that you can still simply remove entire item from production order and put it back with quantities and etc., but that way of work has higher risk of making a mistake.
BR
VE

Dear ,
Couple of points on this issue which may help you understand the problem : Bom Explosion With Phantom Assemblies will happen based on the following set up .
1. You need to maintain the special procurement key-50 for the phantom Assembly
in the MRP 2 View of the material master
2. We can override the Phantom Assembly Setting by defining in SPRO --->
Define Explosion Types so that MRP Creates Procurement Propasals for the
Phantom Assembly itself.ie We can Swith off the Phantom Assembly Settings.
This settting need to be defined in the BOM Item details screen in the Basic
Data Tab Page under MRP Area.
So check in your Bom whether switch off phantom assembly is defined.Make the Explosion Type-Blank
3.Run MRP Single Item - Multi level - Transaction MD02 with Planning Mode 2 : 'Re-explode BOM and Routing'. The Phantom Item will now get exploded correctly in the Planned Order.
4.Check the Validity of the BOM and planning date
5.Check the MRP4 set up in FG where you have kept the BOM/Routing selection
6.Check wether dependent requirement material master -MRP4 view -MRP for Depent Requ should be blank .
Check the above points and come back
Regards
JH
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Jun 14, 2010 2:15 PM
Edited by: Jiaul Haque on Jun 14, 2010 2:18 PM

BOMMAT Idoc for Phantom assembly

I have to send BOM to SAP-ME using BOMMAT Idoc. I would like to know how the Idoc behaves for Phantom assembly.
For header material A, I have 2 components say B & C. C is a phantom (MRP2-Spl Proc Key=50). And C has a BOM with components D & E.
Now I want to generate Idoc for BOM for A. Will the item level segment in Idoc for A will have B &C only or B, D and E. i .e will it skip Phantom component?
Regards
Shiju

Hi,
Your requirement is not very clear.
Assuming that you want to create an Idoc say for BOM(phantom assembly), the following are the steps:
1. Goto WE02 (list of Idocs)
2. Give FINSTA in Logical Message field then, execute.
3. Take the reference of any Idoc with status 53 (Green).
4. Goto WE19 (to create new Idoc with reference)
5. Give the Existing Idoc no. as selected in Point 3, execute.
6. Give all the parameters as per your new House Bank.
7. Click Standard Inbound button and note the Idoc No.
8. Goto WE02, give the Idoc No. as per Point 7, execute
9. The status has to be 53, else look for the error log.
10. Goto BD87 to make corrections in Idoc and execute.
The above steps are at a high level to kick start the creation of Idocs.
Cheers
Chandra

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