Save jpg with non square pixels

How do I save as jpg and retain the non square pixels?
Thank You,
Tom

t_Mc wrote:
You are never going to actually see a non-square pixel JPG image on your square pixel computer monitor.
Well, I just showed you one.
No you did not. Our displays only show square pixels.
t_Mc wrote:
WHY?
Are you yelling?
Where will this image appear? Why do you need PAR if it looks "perfect" on the web without it? What is your output intent? 800x533 is not a video dimension.
That is not important.
I asked WHY because you started this discussion with extreme ambiguity. Others have typed many words to try to help you but you have helped no one in return by explaining yourself and what you are trying to do.
t_Mc wrote:
Eh... you (and every other photographer with javascript gimmicks) may want to re-evaluate how you post and "protect" images. PAR is not much of a step up from what you have.
You making RUDE assumptions that are ridiculous This is only the second question I have asked. Thanks for the help lady!
If I wanted to be rude, I would let you continue to waste your time on pointless techniques that really do not protect your images.
You can prevent others from making assumptions by...
fully explaining what you are trying to do!
EDIT: oy, kids!

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I like the AE/Meyers explanations of all this (so also see the regular help for Premiere):
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/AfterEffects/9.0/WS3878526689cb91655866c1103906c6dea-7f3aa.htm l
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Also see the free Meyers video on Lynda.com
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EDIT: I missed the more relevant thing in Dan's: see the 10/11 as the multiplier rather than .9? 10/11 is the "new" .909090 = .91.
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