Scenario's With out XI

Hi,
What are the scenarios we can do with out XI as a Middleware.
Regards
Suman

Hi,
You can do this kind of activity for processing the IDOC and pushing it to flat file with using ABAP report..(Function modules are available for it)
In BDC, you normally use to do the recording across the various dilog processing.
The SAP system offers two primary methods for transferring data into SAP systems. From non-SAP systems or legacy system. These two methods are collectively called batch input or batch data communication.
1. SESSION METHOD
2. CALL TRANSACTION
3. DIRECT INPUT
Advantages offered by BATCH INPUT method:
1. Can process large data volumes in batch.
2. Can be planned and submitted in the background.
3. No manual interaction is required when data is transferred.
4. Data integrity is maintained as whatever data is transferred to the table is through transaction. Hence batch input data is submitted to all the checks and validations.
To implement one of the supported data transfers, you must often write the program that exports the data from your non-SAP system. This program, known as a data transfer program must map the data from the external system into the data structure required by the SAP batch input program.
The batch input program must build all of the input to execute the SAP transaction.
Two main steps are required:
To build an internal table containing every screen and every field to be filled in during the execution of an SAP transaction.
To pass the table to SAP for processing.
With LSMW you can upload the data using file via..BDC, IDOC, BAPI etc
XI is middleware...you can use the other external middelwares also..as EDI, Tibco, Mercator and many more...
If you wish to avoid the middelware then upto certain extent, it can be achieved..for e.g. you could use RFCs as Webservice...then RFC, ALE communications across various SAP systems was already there..but then all will be Point -to point connectivity ....and XI is based on Hub n spoke architecture...
Thanks
Swarup

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