Serverfarm VIP as rserver of another farm

Hi guys,
I'm curious if that's possible. The idea behind is to create "special rserver" which is in fact a webfarm with per-request LB, and can be placed as a backup-rserver when primary one is overloaded.
Let's imageine caching webfarm (A) with URL hash-predictor, then, if one rserver has huge load its probe may switch traffic to backup, failover farm (B) which has per-request basis (let's say round-robin) to spread that (and only that) load. Another rservers from farm (A) are not affected.
Don's see a way to do that in one context. No direct routing between contexts forces to use 6k/other devices to route packets between contexts. Some other ideas to achieve that? Maybe some other ways of solving the pbm?
Regards,
Jakub S.

Hi Jakub,
Instead of using another VIP as rserver of one of your serverfarms (which as you state would need you to first route the traffic out of the ACE before reaching this VIP since we cannot directly send traffic from a VIP to another), I would configure your backup rserver as one of type redirect which would have the client directly send the traffic to the per-request VIP through redirection once the main rserver is overloaded.
Regards,
Nicolas

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    fault-domain
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    Prem

    Hi Shiva,
    plz guide i'm new with ACE LB, also find my n/w design for connected ace to server. but server accessing very very slow, but when i connect through my old server software LB (with two interface)then accessing very fast. I just replace my old serverLB(with two interface) to ACE4710 and connect the same scenario then why not server accessing smoothly with VIP .Reply soon only I connect ACE's two interface with switch.....
    Regards,
    Prem

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