SID changing

Hi all,
We are planning to create a new test system from Dev and in process we have to change the SID and Logical name of the system, how to change the SID and LSN. After creating the syetm we have to upgrade the system is itpossibule to change he Logical system name after upgrade thru BDLS.
Please suggest..
Thanks,
Subhash.G

Hi Subhash,
You need to backup the system and reinstall - as homogeneous system copy. Check the bellow URL and notes 224266,11692.
http://service.sap.com/systemcopy
Any how this is the another simple method you can follow(if you are expert in DBA)
First of all, you need to make a full offline backup of your system (DB + FS).
As oraSID, start sqlplus session
SQL> alter database backup controlfile to trace;
This command will generate a trace file (available in /oracle/SID/saptrace/usertrace) which will contain a script to recreate you database controlfile.
Edit this script, keep the part ARCHIVELOG or NOARCHIVELOG, replace every old-SID with new-SID.
Save the script as cntrlfileSID.sql
Shutdown SAP and oracle.
Umount all SID-name-related filesystems, change them and re-mount everything.
(You can also use soft-links to gain time)
Change user SIDadm and oraSID (user name, groups, limits, environment profile).
Change SAP profile files in /sapmnt/SID/profile.
Modify the soft links in /usr/sap/SID/SYS ...
You will need to relink all oracle software (as oraSID)
As oraSID recreate your controlfile with the script cntrlfileSID.sql
=>use the resetlogs option to open you DB
Check oracle is OK
Modify you OPS$ users
This should work for an ABAP standalone system.
Good luck
Hari.
PS: Points are welcome.

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