Siebel 7.0 to 8.1 Is a Two Step Upgrade

Hi All,
I wanted to bring this to everyone’s attention since it caught me by surprise. There is no direct upgrade path from 7.0 to 8.1. 7.5 is the last version that offers a direct upgrade path to 8.1
This is not nearly as bad as it sounds. When done correctly the extra upgrade will only add one week to your development upgrade process. We have done many two step upgrades including 6.x to 7.8/8.0 upgrades as well as SEA to SIA upgrades and once you realize how to properly perform these upgrades the second step is not significant to the project’s duration.
Actually dropping support for 7.0 is really just getting back to business as usual for Oracle. Normally when a new version of Siebel comes out support for the oldest direct upgrade version is dropped. This was the case for 7.7 being the latest version that supports a direct upgrade from 6.x.
Support for 7.0 upgrades was maintained for 7.8 and 8.0. We all just got used to 7.0 being supported but now that direct upgrade path is gone.
Please contact me if you have any questions about how to minimize your two step upgrade project duration. There are certain details you should know about before attempting such an upgrade if you have never performed one before.
HTH,
R
Robert Ponder
Lead Architect and Director
Ponder Pro Serve
cell: 770.490.2767
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I ran the patch and got:
Installed post install CPU files
You are installing OHS_8.1.7.0 component for ORACLE_HOME D:\ORACLE\ORA81
You are installing MODPLSQL component for ORACLE_HOME D:\ORACLE\ORA81
OID_2.1.1.3s is not installed in this Oracle Home
SSO_3.0.9.8.4 is not installed in this Oracle Home
SSO_3.0.9.8.5 is not installed in this Oracle Home
DB_8.1.7.4 is not installed in this Oracle Home
Patch Installation Completed
Then I tried to run the Post Installation Instruction (§3.2.2 of the readme for 5236412):
@D:\ora8174\5236412\catcpu.sql and got a "ORA-20000: server version does not match script".
I can guess this is link to the previous "DB_8.1.7.4 is not installed in this Oracle Home" but why DB_8.1.7.4 could'nt be installed ?
Best Regards,
Guillaume.

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