Skin color correction in Lightroom

I'm not ready for Photoshop, yet.
I'm looking for a better way to adjust skin tones in Lightoom. Ideally, using the rgb color information numbers to help me When I hover my mouse over an area to guide me.
What I'm doing at present is, after I've established a white balance, either apply with the brush or radial filter
saturation or tone sliders adjustments. I've worked out that I can help smooth out a poor complexion with detail adjustments in color and the slider above it. it all feels so random. Without knowing how to adjust those rgb numbers I feel unsure about my colors. (And yes, I use a color calibrator and 6500k bulbs in my room.)
Any pre-Photoshop suggestions?

BTW: It's working fine here, but I'm on a PC.
I'm just kind of feeling my way around here:
PS creates the psd; on return to LR you make further adjustments and then re-open it in PS. I'm assuming you choose "Edit Original".
For LR "Orignal" means the state before LR adjustments; that means in PS the LR adjustments are not visible.
On return to LR, the image should re-load to display the further changes made in PS. But you don't see the previous LR adjustments.
After your return to LR what do you see in the history panel? Which history state is highlighted? The bottom one or the top one?
If it's the bottom one, what happens when you click on the top one?
When you open the image the 2nd time in PS, which history state is highlighted, the top one or the bottom one?
WW

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Skin Color Correction

Hi,
I have a family portrait that was shot in a wooded area. The green from the trees is strongly reflected onto the faces of the people in the shot.
What is the best way to get get rid of the green in the skin color?
Thanks

You might try the earlier thread on the same question...
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b6aaa6/3

Camera Raw 5.5 VS Adobe Lightroom (color correction)

Hi, does somebody know if discarding the advantage of making layers of Photoshop, is the Adobe Lightroom color correction controls superiors to the CameraRaw PS Interface correction controls ??? I mean for color correction purposes is Adobe Lightroom better tan PS's camera raw interface ???? because for me both controls seem to be pretty much the same thing, does anyone know something about it ??
Thank you in advance !

RicardoAngelo wrote:
I mean for color correction purposes is Adobe Lightroom better tan PS's camera raw interface ???? because for me both controls seem to be pretty much the same thing, does anyone know something about it ??
Both Camera Raw (most recent version) and Lightroom (most recent version) share the EXACT same processing pipeline...however, there are subtle differences in usability. For example, ACR 5.6 has a Point Curves Editor...Lightroom doesn't. Lightroom has a powerful capability to control output size and resolution which Camera Raw doesn't have...
Bottom line is they are two horses of a different color but each is capable of performing the same tricks...so use whichever app allows you o accomplish what you need to do in the shortest and easiest process...

Lightroom 4 won't save color correction to .R3D file

Really didn't have problems until export. I'm amazed with how fast Lightroom plays playback on .r3d files. Anways after all the color correctrion is done I try to export the file to its original format (r3d) but upon playing the file in Red Cine-X, non of the color corrections I made are saved. It's as if I didn't edit the file at all. However if I choose to save the file as a H264 and play the file, all my corrections are saved. So it only doesn't work if I choose to export my file as the original R3d format. Anyone know whats wrong or how to solve this?

Hi mikey,
LR never writes to original files, and it does not do sidecars for videos.
So in order to view your LR adjustments outside LR you need to use a format which LR can write to, like H264.
Cornelia

Lightroom VS Camera Raw 5.5 (color correction)

Hi, does somebody know if discarding the advantage of making layers of Photoshop, is the Adobe Lightroom color correction controls superiors to the CameraRaw PS Interface correction controls ??? I mean for color correction purposes is Adobe Lightroom better tan PS's camera raw interface ???? because for me both controls seem to be pretty much the same thing, does anyone know something about it ??
Thank you in advance !

They seem the same because they are the same thing. Lightroom is basically an interface built around the camera raw processing core so you will get exactly the same results. The only thing really that you can do in Camera RAW that you can't in Lightroom is point curves (the interface simply doesn't expose them at the moment), which are almost never needed in raw conversion, except if you do special effects. I almost never use Photoshop anymore as Lightroom basically does all I need.
P.S. the latest version of camera RAW is 5.6! Lightroom is at 2.6. The last number corresponds not by accident.

Color correction on magenta skin tones / white shirt

I want to color correct a shot that is very blue/ magenta.
I would like the skin tones to be less magenta and more orange/yellow.
I get the best results by adding yellow on the Midtones and Shadows.
My problem is that the Highlights are going yellow, specially a white shirt. I get a better result by by then adding blue on the Highlights. I'm wondering if it's the right thing to do... Also, some Midtones are still too magenta.
I could isolate the skin tones as secondaries, but still, I have to color correct other parts of the image.
Any tip? Should I use the advanced settings?
I know my question as no miracle answer and that color correction should be done by a pro, but I would appreciate any suggestion, thanks.

cariocastyle wrote:
I want to color correct a shot that is very blue/ magenta.
I would like the skin tones to be less magenta and more orange/yellow.
I get the best results by adding yellow on the Midtones and Shadows.
I'm wondering if it's the right thing to do...
I don't know, what does your eye tell you?
Before anyone can suggest any sort of solution, you need to provide a still as Mr. Owens asked for and then provide some direction for what you want.
No 2 people on the face of the earth see exactly the same. Color is entirely subjective. If you like what you're doing (I would ask, how you're seeing anything accurately from an iMac) then who cares what anyone else thinks? Unless, someone is paying you for your talent, then you'd best have the best rig money can buy as anything less is a lie.

Selective color correction "Lightroom"

I have two suggestions for Lightroom.
1.) Please absolutely for the next update an improved function for a selective color correction. Select with a pipette the color and over an input window the information selectively work on. That One should be able to determine sphere of influence still additionally. At present this is not yet satisfying. (see and compares, Photoshop PlugIN: aurelon "coco", or Software DxO Optics Pro v4.5).
2.) Information window that comparably as in Photoshop the values for RGB 0-255 indicates.

I am working with RGB images trying to adjust to get colors in gamut and to maintain detail before converting to CMYK.
If you are trying to bring totally oversaturated RGB colors into the CMYK gammut, then ideally you will have to learn about channel mixing. It may be necessary to reproduce the Cyan channel (Red) by finding detail from other channels. Selective color, as you've discovered can only take you so far.
Luminosity blended Hue/saturation adjustments taken to low opacity is another high end tip, and work around. If you cant deal with the complexity of masking and channel mixing

Translating Lightroom color correcting to Final Cut pro...

Hi all,
My director friend has seen me color correct images in LR with grace and skill, and wants me to start doing color correction for his films. I have never used Final Cut Pro before, and wondered if the controls in Final Cut were similar to LR, if you could export and import between the two, and generally what the difference was between working with color in each. He has one of the RED cameras, which shoots in RAW, so I assume the different can't be too great. If anyone's proficient in both, the lowdown would be much appreciated!
Thanks!
Alec
www.alecquig.com

If he shoots with RED, why isn't he using RED's copy of Lightroom that's specifically for their cameras, and is provided free? It's called RedCineX, I think.

Where does Lightroom save color correction info?

I'm having a problem with Lightroom in the way it saves the color correction information attached to a raw file.
I'm using raw files off of an external hard drive, color correcting them and then saving that whole folder to my internal hard drive.
The problem is that after I disconnect the external hard drive and import the folder from my internal hard drive, none of the file conversions I just made are showing. This is extreamly frustrating and time consuming as I'm adjusting about 1000 files at a time.
Why is this?
The external drive is my client's so I have to find a way to get the color corrected raw files on both drives.
Thanks to anyone that can help

Here is my work flow:
Working on 1 computer in 1 version of Lightroom that is set up to save the Catalog on my internal hard drive.
I attach client's external drive and use the Lightroom Import dialog to add files to catalog without moving (they stay on the external and I edit them there).
Working in Lightroom I make the adjustments to the CR2 files that have stayed on the external drive.
"At the end select all the images and save metadata to file." I believe I have missed this step. I though Lightroom did this automaticly.
Is this my problem?
After making the adjustments I selected all of the files from the external and copied them to my internal drive, however I did this outside of Lightroom.
This may have been a problem also.
If my catalog has been stored on my internal drive the whole time why did the developing information not get saved to it?
"You can also do this by exporting a catalog file from the source machine to the external disk and then importing
this catalog into the target machine."
Using this technique in the future could I do all of this?
1. edit the files directly on the external drive
2. save the metadata to the files
3. export the files (though lightroom) onto my internal hard drive
4. have the raw files on my internal hard drive with the saved development made to them and be able to open them in lightroom and see them adjusted
5. have the raw files on my client's external hard drive with the saved development made to them and be able to open them in lightroom on another computer and see them adjusted
Thanks again for all of your help!
C

Picture color profile in Lightroom vs Photoshop CS2 editing

Hi all, I hope someone can solve this for me.
When I'm viewing picture in Light room, all my pictures are a bit warmer ( have a yellowish tint to them ) compared to when I view them in Photoshop CS2. The same is true if I view them in other programs. This is true for all my picture file type (jpg, tif or raw). I get the feeling that it's Light room that in the wrong in how it displays the picture and not the other programs. Using the warms tool to make the picture a bit colder, only adds a bluish tint to the image which isn't even close to what it looks like (unedited) in Photoshop.
I get the feeling that Lightroom does something to the picture, or uses some sort of color profile, driver that other programs don't use.
Is there a way of changing this?

>When I purchase these ADOBE products I expect them to JUST WORK!!!!!
Unfortunately, when Microsoft, Dell and others enter the fray it's no longer up to just the Adobe folks. Differences between Photoshop and Lightroom are almost always due to a corrupt monitor profile. Adobe has nothing to do with that.
>I dont wanna have to be worried about corrupt profiles yada yada yada!!!
I just want to be able to do my color correction and exposure corrections in Lightroom export as a High Res Jpeg and then do the remainder of my work in Photoshop and have them both look the same.
If your screen is correctly calibrated that will be the case. Unfortunately if you want to do color sensitive work on a computer with a typical monitor, you have to have a rudimentary understanding of profiles and color management. There is unfortunately no way around it. This is no different from traditional color photography where you have to understand what different film, different filters and different development do to your colors. The terminology is just different.
>How do I fix this and please go through it STEP BY STEP BY STEP!!!!
I am not one for the computer lingo....
OK. I'll assume first that you have no hardware calibrator and that you are on windows:
1. Make sure your Photoshop color settings are set up to respect embedded profiles. See the
first screenshot in this post(ignore everything else as it is no longer relevant in LR 2).
2. Open your monitor's properties panel, click on advanced and go to the color management tab. Delete any profile you see there. This is the culprit. Probably a bad profile got installed in some driver update for your graphics card or your monitor.
3. Restart Lightroom and Photoshop and that's it! You'll have corresponding colors. You are however, cheating yourself as your monitor is completely uncalibrated. This is how 99% of computer users run their monitors.
So here is what you should be doing if you care about your color and matching to print and making sure that others see the same colors. Even though hardly anybody calibrates, the only way to get a good average correspondence is to calibrate your monitor and use color managed apps. This sequence is valid for both macs and PCs
1. Do as above step one and make sure Photoshop is set up correctly and then go out and buy a hardware calibrator (or order online). They can be had for <$100 for pretty good ones. Look for example for Spyder2 and Huey Pro.
2. Calibrate your screen following the instructions from the software
3. Restart Lightroom and Photoshop. Now you'll have identical but correct color.
If you have a mac, you can cheat slightly and use http://www.computer-darkroom.com/colorsync-display/colorsync_1.htm instead of hardware calibration. You cannot expect very good correspondence between monitor and prints though with that method.

Color Correction in Final Cut Express HD

I'm editing a stage production of A Midsummer Nights Dream that was shot on two different cameras. The set is very bright and vivid, and i have read and re-read the FCE Help page on the color correction topic. I have corrected my master shots (wides). What i want to know is how i can adjust the colors of my close-ups:
1. the subject (Bottom in this case) is lit in a blue light (moon light).
2. the set (the woods) are lit by a bright green light.
What I want to do is match the colors to the master, but if i adjust to match the blue light on Bottom, the background loses its bright green. Likewise, if i try and make the green brighter to match the master shot, Bottom turns green too.
The help file mentions Limit Effect, but doesn't expand on it. Bear in mind i'm an 18 year old student, i pretty much need to be spoon-fed a solution!
Any help would be very very gratefully recieved, as i'm a bit pushed for time and trying to finish it this weekend (A-levels are looming...)
Thanks in advance,
James.
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.6) 17", 2.0GHz, 1Gb RAM

Limit effect is not going to help you in this case. You really need to control the overall image and get a balance between the wide and the CU. Color match Bottom's skin tone so it appears correct to you. Leave some of the blue cast to not lose the moonlight effect. Then color match the wide shot so that it has the same look as the corrected CU.

? about image resolution/color correction when apple prints photo book

My first time making a photo book. I color correct and sharpen all of my images in Adobe Lightroom 2 first. Then I save the jpegs and import into iPhoto to make a book. Is there an option for turning off auto color correction when the file is uploaded to apple for printing? Is there an accurate way to tell how the photos will print on the specific paper they use? Also, what print resolution should the photos be set to? Is 180 dpi enough? Thanks in advance.

first read the Apple pages - http://www.apple.com/support/photoservices/preparation_tips/ - and all of its links
Second - I suspect you will be disappointed. Based on reports on these forums almost everyone who uses iPhoto exclusively to preprocess photos is extremely happy with the results. very often people you over process their photos using a third party program (including Lightroom, Photoshop, etc) are unhappy because the printing process is optimized for point and shoot cameras and iPhoto processing - it is NOT a professional desktop book process
There are no options re color correction - it is built in again aimed at sRGB, point and shoot cameras and iPhoto processing
Plus there have been reported incompatibilities between iPhoto and Lightroom
The print resolution is what it is - if it will be less than 180 dpi you will get a waarning - it can be greater
The papers they print on are specified here - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3412
LN

Color Correcting Suggestions

I have PP CS3 and am trying to get a certain color enhancement look. I've been adjusting various levels in the color correction tools, but still can't seem to get the look I want.
For example.. here's a video of what i'm trying to Color duplicate.
http://vimeo.com/5699982
Can this be done in Premiere or After Effects? And if so, can you steer me in the right direction to adjust my video accordingly. Thanks
Danny

Danny,
A couple of things that I noticed were:
1.) on the wide shot of the spokesman and the display, the display area was either well lit, with light off of the background, or perhaps tweaked in post to darken just the background area.
2.) there was a fair amount of both yellow and red added in the CU's, as evidenced by the spokesman's skin tone.
You might also want to look into kicking the Saturation up a bit, after you do the CC work.
Good luck,
Hunt

Unable to Export Color Corrected Video's to Original format for AVCHD (GH2) and ProRES Codecs.

I imported a 176 MBPS AVCHD clip from my GH2 into Lightroom 4, then i added color presets to the video and color corrected the video, however during export when i select the video format as original the color correction does not apply to the video, only the original video is saved, But when i select H.264 or DPX the video is saved with the effects applied. I also tried using a AVCHD clip converted to Apple ProRES but when i export the video the effects are not applied to the saved video. Also the option i get for saving H.264 files is only 22 MBPS.

Original, whether for photos or video, means "unedited". Bear in mind that this isn't intended for high-end video editing - just simple edits for digitial photographers. It won't replace your video editing software anytime soon, if ever.

Color Differences between Lightroom and Premiere Pro

I have been making color adjustments to movie clips in Photoshop or Lightroom (both of which do a great job), but when I bring the clips into Premiere Pro or Premiere Elements the colors are not the same as what I was seing in the other programs. It is as if the programs are using different color profiles. How do I resolve this problem?

bryanbrowne1 wrote:
I have been making color adjustments to movie clips in Photoshop or Lightroom (both of which do a great job), but when I bring the clips into Premiere Pro or Premiere Elements the colors are not the same as what I was seing in the other programs. It is as if the programs are using different color profiles. How do I resolve this problem?
Photoshop and Lightroom are designed for still photography. Still photographers use a color managed workflow that in general ends in a paper print. Since printers/inks/papers can in general display a wider gamut than computer monitors can display, we use tools manage it, such as soft proofing. The efficient way to control this is through ICC profiles of the printer/ink/paper combinations, of which there are thousands. Thus Photoshop and Lightroom and other still photography tools are esentially required to be color managed.
PPro and film/video have decidedly different requirements. The video workflow ends in a light source display (projection, HDTV, or web video, all are light sources, where a pigment ink print is a reflective source, which has entirely different characteristics). These end displays are not variable workspace displays. HDTV displays only in REC.709 workspace, its gamut, contrast, etc. are tightly defined. Web video uses the sRGB workspace. Etc.
I'm just sayin' that still photography and video have very different requirements. Trying to force still photography methods onto a video workflow is bound to be difficult and full of problems, as you have found.
The answer to your "How do I resolve this problem" question is perhaps to use the still photography tools for still photography, and the video tools for video. A stills workflow for stills, and a video workflow for video.
A video workflow implies doing color correction and color grading on external monitors that natively support the target work space (Rec.709 in the case of HDTV, Blu-ray, or DVD output [OK, technically DVD uses SDTV's REC.601 work space, but 709 is "close enough" that you can get by in all but the most critical applications]). IOW, use a production monitor, or at least an HDTV (calibrated of course), to judge final output.
Trying to color correct video on a computer monitor is just asking for trouble. As you well know by now.
A good place to start learning the video way of things when it comes to color correction and grading is Alexis Van Hurkman's Color Correction Handbook. Highly recommended; it answered questions that I didn't know enough to ask yet. Might for you too, IDK.

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