Smart album

Hi all !
I migrated my iPhoto to Aperture 2. Quiet a mess to have everything organized properly. I have over 4000 photos, classified in albums. Most of those albums had their content changed in Aperture for some reason. So I need to refill them.
I need to classify them by month.
So the idea is to have a smart album, that would pick pictures from a spécific album, and dsplay the pictures shot from a specific date to another. For the calendar part no problem. For the source album I can't figure out how to do it. So I applied a keyword to all pictures of the source album. But then the option in the smart album pannel "keyword" remains greyed out and I cant delect it.
Could lease someone help me out on that one?
Many thanx and best regards,

There have to be some sort of error regarding the keywords. If you add a keyword to a selection of images then that keyword should display in the Smart Settings (Smart Album Panel) when you create the Smart Album.
Try to add another keyword to some of the images in the project.
Regards
Paul K

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There's only one problem, I'm not sure if this will work for smart albums in folders.
so unfortunately I was right. Smart Albums behave differently then regular Albums one of the biggest differences is the way Folders and Smart Albums interact.
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regards

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Mrsthebraggster wrote:
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you say: "... Aperture is correct in it's assertion the image was taken on 12th"
I dont understand.
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As a new Aperture user myself, I had a similar issue. Maybe it's related to yours.
Smart Albums have many options to choose from, and I was a bit confused at the beginning. While setting the Smart Album, you need to be sure you're marking the options you really want/need, and nothing else. For example, my "In the last month" Smart Album showed only one photo, and that wasn't correct.
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Repair Database
Repair Permissions
Rebuild Database
Reboot Computer
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I’m out of ideas...

I can't say I have the same bug. However, I do have one that might be worth checking on.
On my Aperture 3 here the keyword panel padlock works back to front, i.e. if it's displaying an open padlock icon, the keyword panel is actually locked, rather than unlocked as it should be, and vice versa.
This stumped me for a while, as I also kept finding unauthorised changes happening to my keywords. Now I know to operate the padlock opposite to what I expect, it does stop any unauthorised changes.
(yes, I submitted a bug report).
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