Smoothing showing planning depreciation to the earlier periods

Hi All,
Scenario: Asset acquisition date       : Jan,01,2009
               Ordinary depreciation date : April,01.2009
               Acquisition value               : 500000
               Rate of Depreciation          : 20%
When i don't select smoothing the depreciation is showing correctly like the depreciation for the first 3months is including in the month of April (Catchup)
But when i select Smoothing the depreciation is planning from Jan month to Dec month. But the depreciation for the first 3 months should be distribute to the remaining periods..right?
Is there any other setting i missed here. Kindly let me know.
Thanks
Shankar

Eduardo,
I have never seen that the use from Smoothing was useful or really necessary.
In 90% of the cases you can use straitline depreciation or multilevel with a %.
For tax it is always based on a fiscal year, and perhaps in some cases like you example not so nice for cost accounting.
The basis of the calculation is in SAP based on a fiscal year, Say in your case the use-full live is 5 years and the capitalize an asset in the fiscal year like May and you have done the depreciation run for April,
Your case One that begins depreciates the entire yearly value, no matter on what date it was placed in service,
When the depreciation start date is 01-01-2009 the the depreciation in May is for the periods January to May (5 Months)
Your Case the other that begins to depreciate on the month of capitalization
When the depreciation start date is 01-05-2009 the the depreciation in May is for the period May (1 Months)
When you make the first posting, the field Capitalization is filled in with the asset value date you used in the posting and based on the period control rule in the key the depreciation start date is filled in,
In your cases you can use 2 simulair depreciation keys like LINR with a different period control rule,
When you fill in the depreciation start date manual then that is that the date for the depreciation start
When the standard SAP depreciation rules not fit it is possible to create your own depreciation rules

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