Incorrect Planned Depreciation after posting unplanned depreciation

Hello Everyone,
We have encountered a case whereas an asset acquired in April 2008 with 5 years useful life was planned to be fully depreciated in period 2 of 2009. Below are the details and postings done:
1 - NBV -> 1,056,143.00
2 - Posted Write-up -> 18,054.00
3 - Posted Unplanned depreciation -> 1,038,992.23- (the system actually issued that only the amount of 835,445 can be posted as unplanned dep. In order to bypass this, user changed the dep key to MANU then changing it back after the unplanned posting)
4 - Posted Ordinary Dep for Period 1 of 2009 -> 19,892
5 - Planned Ordinary Dep for Period 2 of 2009 -> 15,312.77-
Once the amount of 15,312.77 is posted, the asset will have Zero NBV.
*My question is: Why did the system posted the 15,312.77 in period 2 only and not spread the amount until 2013 since the asset's useful life is for 5 years (until 2013).
We have tried recalculation of values and the planned depreciation remains the same for period 2.
Hope someone can help.
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Cholo

Hello Vinod,
Period control is 004 which is configured in AFAMP having 01 - Pro rata at period start date for Acquisition, Acquisition in the following year, Retirement and trasfer. Does it have anything to do with the start of depreciation?
Also, when we adjust the ord dep start date to < April 26, the original planned depreciation is not affected for the current FY but only the next FY and moving forward.
For example:
Asset worth 12,000 to be depreciated in 10 years
1 - Alrready in period 3 and 200 has been posted
2 - Posted unplanned dep of 800
3 - Total planned dep for this year did not change (1,200)
4 - System calculated for current year depreciation 1200 (planned) + 800 (unplanned) = 2000
5 - And for the next years 12,000 - 2,000 = 10,000 / 9 years
Should it not be that that 12,000 - 1,000 (200 planned + 800 unplanned) = 11,000 / 9 years and 9 months?
It seems that the unplanned depreciation affected the depreciation computation of the asset only in the next FY.

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