[SOLVED]FluxBox

Today I tried installing FluxBox to try out something other than gnome and because I liked the look of the customisability. Unfortunately like the majority of thread starters in the newbie corner Ive been having some difficulties. Running fluxbox-generate_menu reveals that it cannot access /root/.fluxbox/menu. Later on I made the folder my self and got it to generate a menu file. But using startx to load fluxbox results in the default menu. I have uninstalled flux box; rebooted then installed again but it still dosen't work. All I have now is a headache; so I'm counting on you to save me please .
Eternally Gratefully,
                             Kernal Panic(pronounced colonel)
Last edited by Kernal Panic (2007-11-26 18:17:22)

paul_au wrote:
marchfluxmenu looks very nice, im guessing its your work?  If so its looks very good. 
Looks like I'm now going to have to download March Linux to check out your work.  Im a big fan of fluxbox except for the lack of a decent Alt+Tab listing.
Have you thought about marchfluxmenu in aur? (If its there I can't find it)
Thank you for your compliments...it is indeed my work!
Since I'm quite new to programming, it feels nice to hear someone complimenting my works!
The current version of March Linux which is available for downloads, doesn't include mfm though.  In fact, ATM I'm working on a new version of March, which will include various new features : tools like mfm and a control center maybe; better selection of packages and most importantly, an installer!
It will be completed as soon as my coding acumen attains  the necessary level!
As for a PKGBUILD for mfm, I'm not sure it can be done at all, since by design it is 'installed' under the /home dir of current user!

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