Sorting Order varies from 9i to 10g

The Sorting order of the output is different between 9i and 10g.
Can Anyone explain the technnical reason?

With 10gR2 Oracle introduced hash aggregation into the SQL path. SQL statements that use DISTINCT or GROUP BY which may have returned data in the desired order in the past may now return the data in randon order.
The only way to guarentee the result set order is to use an ORDER BY clause.
HTH -- Mark D Powell --

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All :
A number of shopping carts are raised on the back of a quotation received from vendors.
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The Purchase Order should also therefore reflect the same sequence. For some reason this does not happen.
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Hi
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Please report the same bug to SAP by creating a OSS message as well, for faster processing of the query.
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Sort order changes from ios photos to iphoto

My photos in an album in the the ios Photo app are in a particular order. When accessed fro iPhoto, the order is completely different. How can I mantain the original order?

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Getting Sort parameters(order,columns) from DatabaseFilter.

Hi all,
Could anyone guide me on how to get the Columns that are being selected for sorting
and the sorting order itself from the DatabaseFilter. We have our own class which
takes in the column names and sort order and generates the SQL(similar to the
DataBaseFilter). Therefore, I need to get the selected columns from DataBase Filter.
I have tried :
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Thanks.
Vik.

It all depends on how much data you need to delete from the database.
If all you need is the id, and you generate that id into the checkboxes, it becomes fairly simple
String[] idsToDelete = request.getParameterValues("checkbox");
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String[] idsToDelete = request.getParameterValues("checkbox");
for(int i=0; i<idsToDelete.length; i++){
deleteRecord(Integer.parseInt(idsToDelete));
The hashtable method comes in useful when you need to call on the object itself to delete itself. That might not be necessary in this case.
Hope this helps,
evnafets

Updating Sort Order on a field?

Hi
i have a customer table. i am displaying them in sorted
order. but now i have added 1 field call SortID.
now when ever if i add a new entry ...i want to sort it and i
want to assign the sorted it for that.
ex:
aaaa > 1
bbb > 2
ccc > 3
if i add aaa1 ..then its sort has to become 2 and goes
one....
how to update this...using and update command....
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Your method is likely doomed to failure, and you will
probably end up spending an inordinate amount of resources
attempting to "re-sort" your data. Like Dan is implying, if you can
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Is it possible to sort dimension values in order different from alphabetic?

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It is found that the sorting behavior is different after upgrade from 9i to 10g.
In 9i, even if the SQL statement does not specify the ORDER BY clause, the sorting order is consistent for a particular SQL statement and most likely the sequence follows the searched key fields' order.
After upgrade to 10g, the query output could vary as long as the SQL statement does not specify the ORDER BY clause.
Is it due to the Reverse Docid Sorting issue? How can I troubleshoot this issue?
Thanks for your help,
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903714 wrote:
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Is it due to the Reverse Docid Sorting issue? How can I troubleshoot this issue?
Thanks for your help,
M.T. This is expected behavior in 10g. Oracle will not order the dataset for you unless and until you explicitly specify it.
So without using order by clause in 10g, oracle doesn't guarantee that rows will be ordered.
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alter session set "_newsort_enabled"=false;
Also see MOS - Order Of Data Retrieval Differs after upgrading 9i To 10g [ID 456707.1]

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Message was edited by: PECourtejoie

That is a good question, to do this requires two functions and a restart of Bridge all done automagically
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MAC: <hard drive>/Applications/Utilities/Adobe Utilities
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PC: Edit - Preferences - Startup Scripts
Mac: Adobe Bridge menu - Preferences - Startup Scripts
At the bottom click the "Reveal Button" this will open the folder where the script should be saved.
Close and restart Bridge.
Accept the new script.
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Tools - Backup Manual Sort
This will backup the hidden manual sort file .BridgeSort to .BridgeSortSave
Tools - Restore Manual Sort
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we are currently updating from BPC 7.0NW to 7.5 NW SP10. (BW has been upgraded to 7.02 SP09)
As master data and hierarchies had been uploaded using the coding from 'HowTo Upload automated...' so far, we now have to use standard Data Manger packages.
Maintaining packages and package links was successful. Everything works fine so far.
The only problem are Hierarchies, better the sort order of hierarchie nodes. At the moment they are always sorted in an alphabetical order.
We introduced property MBR_SEQ to all dimension using program UJA_MIGRATE_MBR_SEQ.
We loaded hierarchies with different settings.
Searching SDN and SAP Notes lead to notes 1603352 or 1581331.
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Oracle 10G gives in sorted order without order by ,in 11g it is not.

we are facing a strange problem.
we have M Views on which we perform select operation ,we put joins of M Views and get the results by select operation , the results was in sorted order (asc) and we were not using any order by clause in the select query , this was in oracle 10G.
The compelte schema where these M views are and also the underneath tables are now migrated to oracle 11g using import/export option.
Now the queries which was giving the result set in sorted order (asc), are not given the result set in sorted order anymore. it is in different order but I think at always return the same order not asc or desc but an specific random order .
we can not change the query as of now as there are 1000+ and each query would require a order by statement .
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Su**** wrote:
Please guide me how to go to this doc link ,i am newbi, and do not how to go to this link.
MOS Doc 345048.1 ('Group By' Does Not Guarantee a Sort Without Order By Clause In 10g and Above)
Go to http://support.oracle.com, log in to My Oracle Support, and search for 345048.1 If you don't have a My Oracle Support account, you'll need to contact whoever manages your company's Oracle support and ask them to create an account for you.
Basically, no version of Oracle has ever guaranteed the order of results if you don't specify an ORDER BY clause. In 10g, the only algorithm that was available to implement a GROUP BY happened to sort the results as a side effect. 11g introduced a new algorithm for grouping results that is more efficient and does not have the side effect of ordering the results. Most likely, your query plans have changed to use the more efficient grouping algorithm.
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I have synched photos from Aperture to the Apple TV, but the sort order when shown on Apple TV is not the same as the sort order in Aperture. Does anyone have an idea about which metadata field in Aperture is being used by Apple TV to determine the sort?

Hi this is my first append to Apple support so things may go pear shaped...
I have the same problem as you describe and have discovered that the order appears to be consistent with the file NAME order (as seen in Finder) This is not the camera file name but the version name I gave it when I imported the file into Aperture. I then exported the album to the desktop and streamed it to Appletv. (iTunes #count/album is sometimes wrong)
Given a file list of say 40 files, the new (incorrect Appletv re-sorted) order follows a pattern based on the FIRST numeric decimal digit in the filename!
Example - I have a folder containing 40 consecutive images - the new order these images will be displayed by Appletv will be as follows
1 10[...]19 2 20[...]29 3 31[...]39 4 40 5 6 7 8 9
I've proved this by photographing 40 separate image files each one showing a number in the range of 1 to 40 as an individual image. These are in order by number (as appears in the image) & file number assigned by the camera, and also therefore by file date time. I imported them into Aperture and assigned them the Version name of 'Number' + sequence.
So, when I view image file #1 named 'Number 1 of 40' I see the number '1' and the EXIF tells me it was taken at 28/07/2007 13:33:16 BDT. Similarly when I view image file #40 named 'Number 40 of 40' I see the number '40' and the EXIF tells me it was taken at 28/07/2007 13:37:34 BDT.
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I've since found that a separate burn of different files(29) using Toast followed the same pattern.
Since starting this append iTunes has the added the album of 40 numbers to its list and I have just viewed them on Atv slideshow. Bizarrely the order is different again - 3,5,2,4,1,10,13,15,6,11,14,7,8,12,9,32,17,33,26,22,23,28,18,29,20,24,35,16,21,3 1,19,25,30,34,27,37,38,40,39,36. Random is off. Please can we have a fix for this or at least a workaround.
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In a series of editing steps we've loaded ca. 1,900 personal and business contacts from Outlook into a 1st gen iPhone with 2.0.1 software on it. To our surprise we found that while most of the entries were listed and sorted by company, certain entries were listed and sorted by the person's name. It looked random and there didn't seem to be any way to control it on the iPhone.
While troubleshooting the problem we synced up the iPhone with an empty Address Book on a MacBook Pro and found that the sort order flag was indeed set differently on these entries. When we changed the sorting flag of a contact in the Mac's Address Book to "Company" it also changed on the iPhone after the next sync.
Problem: In our business environment it is impossible to switch to Macs for contact administration. We need to do it from Outlook. This is one of several features needed for the adoption of iPhones.
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Well, I think we figured it out.
Outlook doesn't offer a sorting flag on person or company name. Instead it uses a separate "File As" string. The problem with our contacts was that this "File As" string was frequently edited to be something else than exactly the personal or company name, e.g. it was set to an abbreviated company name. Once we set the "File As" to any of the defaults offered, i.e. person or company name, the sorting flag in iPhone was properly set through the synchronization.
Obviously, the application logic compares the content of these fields in Outlook and decides how to set the flag. If it can't find the company name in "File As" it defaults to person.
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So since updating to iOS 8 (and up to iOS 8.0.2, iPhone 5) and syncing my photos from aperture, the stock photo's app now seems intent on listing all the people tagged in my photos in a random order. Previously, on iOS 7, these were listed alphabetically with no issues (the fact that the phone wants to change the sort order of albums from what they're set to to date is another gripe altogether, but at least one that has a workaround).
Does anyone else have this issue of Faces from my Mac being in a completely random order? And if so does anyone know of a workaround? I've tried deleting the iPod photo cache from my Aperture library but this hasn't had any effect...

I have the same issue too. My 'Faces' are all mixed up and depending on where I look i.e. if I go to send a photo through iMessage, they are in order. But, if I look in the Photo App on my iPhone, they are all mixed up.
On a slightly different note, if i'm in the Facebook App and I go to upload a photo, the 'Camera Roll' contains ALL my photos on my phone and only the 3 albums that I made on the phone. It doesn't view my albums imported from iPhoto. Clearly an FB issue and not Apple though.

"Get photos from camera" advanced dialog sort order

Hello All,
I'm having a problem with the order of the photos in the advanced dialog when there are photos from more than one date. The import dialog orders the photos by decreasing date and increasing time. For example, a series of photos with the date/times (in order of being taken):
10/20/11 11:30 PM
10/20/11 11:31 PM
10/20/11 11:34 PM
10/21/11 01:03 AM
10/21/11 01:04 AM
will display as:
10/21/11 01:03 AM
10/21/11 01:04 AM
10/20/11 11:30 PM
10/20/11 11:31 PM
10/20/11 11:34 PM
Now imagine say one or two thousand photos taken over three or four days and wanting to rename them. Right now I have to load the group associated with each day, and then keep adjusting the index number so that the naming scheme will make any sense. This was asked in the previous post: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2981895#2981895 and has not been answered. The photo order really makes no sense to me. Surely there is some way of fixing this?
Many thanks in advance,
Chris Jones

OK, here is the situation as I see it.
Took another round of pictures on day two. Used the same method as outlined in post # 7. The day 2 photos show up first and then day 1 photos. This is in the same order as the pictures are shown on the card, with the newest pictures at the front. So if using advanced rename it starts the rename at the first picture on the card and works down, in this case newest to oldest.
Now I took the same card and pictures and used the method I always use. Short date + custom name. In this case since you are not renaming the pictures, it uses the camera name and therefore the pictures are labeled from oldest to newest. This is because the camera labels in an advancing sequence starting at the first picture.
So the easy way to avoid the problems you are addressing is to download the pictures to Bridge using the camera name, use the correct sort order, or manual sort to order pictures, and then do a batch rename. As the batch rename starts at the first pictures and works its way to the last picture in sequence.
If you feel this is awkward for your workflow I would suggest you submit a feature request to have a sort order on the photo downloader for some future update. If enought people submit the same request it may get done.
Let me know if this answers the question satisfactorily.

Sorting Order varies from 9i to 10g

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