Spare parts ATP check

Dear Expert,
I meet a problem about the ATP check in CRM when create a service order.
We need check the ATP when we create service order with spare parts.But for CRM, there is not any stock information.
It is possible to use BAPI call to do ATP check.But our service order's quantity is huge, it will influence the performace.
I think SAP defined two system, then I has to face this problem.
Any suggestion will be highly appreciated.

Stefano,
Do you have a solution for this?
Best regards
Jose Marin

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Dear Experts,
We're testing CRM service scenario, focusing on the ATP check.
After running the avaiability check for the service parts in the service order,
is it posssible to determine the scenario automatically as follows?
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Hi F.T,
I have worked in Service Order Management Scenario, but not integration of Service Orders for ATP Check. But I found this Presentation which I hope might be somewhat helpful regarding the feasibility of the Business Scenario. You can have look at the same and will be able to decide if this is the correct way forward or not.
[Presentation|http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&biw=1366&bih=548&q=ATPCheckforservicepartsandprocurementscenarioinSAPCRM+++&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=a254323013e5943b]
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We have below requirement in Spare part Kitting process
1)
Client makes compressors, which obviously have a lot of components, where one of the prime part is valve.
2)
Valve Kit is a finished product having components which are used in regular unit production also, where MRP Type can be VV or PD.
3)
This valve kit sold as a spare part.Customers buy these kits and typical assembly time is 1 day.
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This kit is not kept in stock and is assembled after receiving an order.
5)
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7)
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1. We should be able to plan valve kits may be thru forecasting or PIR's. This to start procuring components.
2. When sales order is created, system should do availability check at component level.
3. Consumption data should be updated if we use forecasting to plan kit or if we use PIR's, sales order should consume the demand. Consumption of forecasting requirement is also required.
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Hi ,
Looks like problem is due to
- Need to do ATP at componnent level which is only possible with Planning strategy 81,82. You cannot use planning strategy 40( 40 considers forecast , sales order & consumption)
- 81 ,82 planning strategy doesn't consume forecast for End item(Sales order entry material)
You could use Sales order BOM function. It is provided for selling Kits. BOM is exploded in sales order & kit items are put as seperate sales order items ( 20... 30... 40 ) Here are steps.
- Create BOM with usage 5- Sales order relevancy of bom components is Ticked
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- You can configure Sale Price at End FG level, Inventory management( DO issue) at item /components level .
- Forecast will be consumed at end item level.Need configuration
- ATP check can be performed at componenet level
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Hope it helps
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I want to keep some spare parts for services only ,though some of them also used in production .
then how can I implement this in SAP system,how the stock of spare parts not influence the forecast of the production( means these parts only can be used in services)
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Helai,
If it were MY company, I would
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[MRP Area|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/EN/c4/106956ae8a11d1a6720000e83235d4/frameset.htm]
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Kind Regards
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Hi Raghavendra,
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4) The same number range is marked as external in SAP ECC in vn01 tcode
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Kind Regards
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Availability check
1. Availability check is an integral part of the business process that determines if the required delivery quantity can be met on a required delivery date. For this purpose the system takes into account pre-delivery activities such as scheduling for picking or packing times and the time taken to produce or obtain the material. It also performs several background functions such as Backorder processing, rescheduling and ATP quantities.
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3. Rescheduling: is a proposal of how u2013 confirmed quantities already assigned to a sales order can be reassigned to other sales orders that have a higher priority.
4. Available to promise (ATP): is a process of checking the available quantities of a material. The ATP quantity consists of warehouse stock + planned receipts (incoming stock) u2013 planned issues (outgoing stock). to examine stock on hand (CO09) proceed to logistics u2013 sales & distribution u2013 sales u2013 environment u2013 availability overview.
5. Replenishment lead time (RLT): is the time taken for the material to become available either internally (in house production) or externally (from a vendor). The most important things to consider during an external procurement are purchasing and MRP2 (procurement) views of MMR where the processing time for purchasing, planned delivery time and goods receipt processing time are taken into account. On the other hand internal procurement is based on in house production time (MRP 2 view) goods receipt processing time or alternatively RLT time, which is found on MRP 3 view.
6. RLT (Replenishment Lead Time) is the time taken for the material to become available. RLT is only used when doing an ATP check (Available To Promise). The value of RLT for a material is specified on material master record.
7. There are three types of availability checks u2013
Check on basis of ATP quantities.
Check against product allocation.
Check against planning.
Configuring Availability check through Checking Groups
1. The checking group + checking rule determine how the availability check is to be performed.
2. The checking group determines whether and how the system checks the stock availability and generates requirements for material planning. The checking group defines what type of requirements will be passed on i.e. summarized requirements (daily/weekly) or individual requirements for each sales order.
3. The checking rule applies to how the availability check is to be carried out at the transaction level. Note that you must define checking rules for each individual application such as for production orders for example. In Sales and Distribution, the checking rule is specified internally within the system and cannot be changed.
4. The checking rule, in conjunction with the checking group, determines the scope of the availability check for every business operation; that is, which stocks, receipts and issues are to be included in the availability check and whether the check is to be carried out with or without the replenishment lead time.
5. Briefly explaining the above u2013 checking group determines which type of requirement to be passed on to MRP whether it be individual or summarized and checking rule which is at the transaction level and can be configured independently for each application module, determines which stocks, receipts and issues to be taken into account. For performing an availability check checking group has to work in conjunction with checking rule.
6. Advantages of individual processing over summarized processing u2013
Backorder processing is possible.
You can access (MD04) order, line and schedule line individually which gives a greater control on available stock and requirements placed on stock.
The system automatically uses individual requirements in case of special stock items.
7. Required data for the Availability check to be carried out u2013
The Availability check must be switched on at the requirement class level.
The Availability check must be set at the schedule line level.
A requirements type must exist by which the requirements class can be found.
A plant must be defined in the sales order for each schedule line item (in other words plant must be defined for every material in MMR).
A checking group must be defined in the material master record in the MRP3 screen in the availability check field.
8. Configuring Availability check and defining Checking Groups u2013
Checking groups are introduced into the sales order based on the setting in the material master record.
SAP standard checking groups are 01 u2013 summarized requirements and 02 u2013 individual requirements or you can create your own by copying the standard ones.
Total sales and total deliveries columns are there to configure a checking rule to sum up requirements to post to MRP either individually or by day or week.
Block quantity required can be set if you want several users to be able to process the material simultaneously in different transactions without blocking each other.
The no check indicator is CHECKED when you DO NOT want the system to carry out ATP check.
9. Defining material block for other users u2013 the block check box is an indicator that enables you to block material master records of a particular material during the availability check and restrict other users from accessing same master record and reserve the material. If the block is not set, two users can confirm the same material at the same time for two different orders, not knowing if the stock is available or not. If you select this field, the material is blocked during the availability check and other users cannot: a) Make changes in the material master record. b) Create purchase orders for the material. C) Create orders for the material.
10. Defining default values for checking groups - Checking groups are introduced into the sales order based on the setting in the material master record.
However if there is no entry present in the material master record for the checking group, a default value can be set here, depending on material type and plant.
This default value will be used by the system depending on the material type mentioned in MMR and plant in sales order.
If an entry exists, this default value is over written by MMR.
11. Controlling Availability Check u2013 in this section, you tell the system what stock on hand and what inward and outward movements of stock it must take into account when performing the availability check in addition to whether or not to consider the replenishment lead time.
12. These settings are based on the checking group that is assigned to the material master record and the checking rule that is predefined and assigned to the sales and distribution transaction.
13. These settings carry out control both for sales order and delivery as well. This is due to the fact that you may want to include specific stock or incoming stock for the sales order, yet at the time of the delivery only include physical stock on hand waiting to be shipped.
14. It is possible to indicate to the system that you would like the availability check NOT TO CHECK the stock at the storage location level. This indicator is used to set the scope of the availability check.
15. It is used to switch off the check at storage location level. You create a reservation for a particular storage location. However, the scope of the availability check is set in such a way as to exclude the storage location. In this case, the system carries out the check at plant level only and does not take the storage location into account that is specified in the reservation.
16. Should you not want the system to automatically check RLT, you may indicate so here. RLT is the time taken for a material to become available. It is only used when doing an ATP check and is taken from MMR.
17. defining the elements in the availability check entirely depends on the business needs, but a few tips are given under u2013
When controlling the Availability check at the time of the sales order, a purchase requisition does not necessarily indicate by it is going to come into the plant.
A shipping notification on the other hand - a confirmed purchase order u2013 is a good indicator of receiving stock on a specified date.
It is always recommended not to select the shipping notifications for the delivery requirements type as you may not actually receive the stock into plant or warehouse for which you are creating a delivery.

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Our company requirement is not to save the sales order if stock is not available for any of the line item. This requirement is for specific order type or item catagories.
Currently system is saving the order even if quantity is not available.
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Regards
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hi,
ATP Check is checking of availablty quantities i.e ATP = Total Warehouse Stock + Planned receipts(Incoming Stock) - Planned Issues (Out going stock)
Availbilty Check is an integral part of business process it determines the if the desire deliverible quantity can be met on requested delivery date or not.Then it passes to Material Requirement Planning. Or
avability check is nothing but checking of availibility of stock which is placed in the order , sys carries out this check through a available to promise (ATP)
When we create a sales order, there are several basic functions which are executed automatically for the dynamic order management . among these basic functions , availability check and transfer of requirements are crucial.
the system first prepares schedule line containing the information on the desired delivery date and quantities , this information is passed to MRP and an avialability check and transfer of requiremnts are executed
First the system carries out backward scheduling and establishes the material avaialbility date = desired delivery date-transit time-loading time-picking & packing time and on this date an availability check is carried out using ATP logic which means avialable to promise quanity =total ware house stock+incoing orders-outgoing
along with the avialability check the requirements also are transferred to MRP.
the configuration involves following
1. switching on at schedule line catagegory the avialability check and TOR
2. configure the avilability check using ATP and using the checking group and Checking rule
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Iam doing ATP check in planned order and getting Missing parts.
When i do ATP check in COHV for same planned order then iam not getting any missing parts.
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Hi,
From what i know SAP recommends usage of MDVP for planned orders. There are still quite many issues with usage of COHV for planned orders, hence i would suggest the use of MDVP.
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