Strange Booting Problems

Hi,
I've just bought an MSI KT3 Ultra2 M/B. I have it all installed OK running with an AMD Athlon XP PR1700 processor, 256Mb DDR PC2100 Memory, XFX Geforce 4MX 440 AGP Graphics card.
The first time I powered the machine on the screen came up OK and asked me to press F1 to enter setup or F2 to resume. I entered the BIOS to set the system time and then saved changes and exited the BIOS. The machine then attempted to reboot but there was no screen displayed. The machine then just remained with a blank screen and there were no POST beeps. The D Bracket displays that it's initializing the Floppy Drive Controller, but it remains in this state forever. The only way to get back into the bios is to do a hard reset via the jumper but then once you leave the bios the system then remains with a blank screen.
Has anyone got any ideas??
Best regards
Paul

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Originally posted by badogidon
i have the same pb X( , so if someone found an answer, i would be pleased. .
everytime i reset the cmos , i got the message CMOS WRONG , if i change any setting after saving the screen hang black .
What settings did you change?
Just do "Load BIOS Setup Default" and (if you have 133Mhz FSB CPU) set CPU FSB to 133Mhz.

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Quote from: Mike on 20-August-09, 01:30:42
Pull a drive from one of the other PCs where the disc works and install that one onto this system you're asking about. Check to ensure that the DVD drive is first boot source. Try to boot. You could also do this--as the system boots, tap f11 repeatedly and a boot menu should appear....choose the DVD drive. Let us know what is going on.
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Welcome to Lenovo Community Forums!
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Hi!
I have a powerbook Alu 15", 1.5Ghz. It runs OS X 10.4.2 with the latest security update. My problem started last Saturday.
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Here is the strange part: the computer boots normally if I press the command key (this key on its own is not suppose to do anything). It also works if I press the command-s or command-v key combination. No other key combination seem to work.
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2) Reset of the PMU with the four finger salute: shift-control-option-power combination. No effect except that I lost the date/time information. Hence the reset worked.
3) Tried to reset the PRAM, but the command-option-p-r key combination does not seem to work.
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Is the problem related to firmware? I think that this is the most probable option. What do you think? Maybe, the firmware got slightly corrupted? Maybe a bit got flipped in the flash memory? Is this possible? I guess so. But, what can I do? Should I contact my friendly local repairman?! I have to admit that this option scares me a little bit for such a strange problem. I would need an Apple engineer with boot related experience/expertise!
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Hi Scott!
Almost every time the PowerBook woke after sleep, I got the 'Are you sure you want to shut down your computer now...' message.
I get this message upon wake only rarely, but every time I plug or unplug a display live.
The strange behaviour was tolerable, so I've lived with it for several months. But then when checking out the PowerBook discussions, I read about the failing lower RAM slot problems, and just out of interest, checked out my System Profiler....
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Best wishes to you and your (almost) new machine!
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loko, hello and welcome,
No answer, just questions: "whenever" you reboot - as in every time? And specifically _reboot_ as opposed to cold boot? Reboot from Win to Win, Lin to LIin, Win to Lin, Lin to Win? And warm reboot, or full power off, power on reboot?
When you reboot, is it always from an OS that has been fully shut down and _to_ an OS that has been previously fully shut down?
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Also have seen some pretty strange stuff when warm rebooting from Linux to Windows. It can leave BIOS in a strange state. On my desktop, my NIC will be dead until I do a full cold boot - from AC mains off.
Just tossing *stuff* at the wall here,
Z.
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Actual question: can cpu socket like on attached picture cause boot problems?
tinypic.com/r/1pxnxs/6
(Some pins look strange while I am sure I did not do anything which can cause that)
(Sorry was not able attach pic, so shared on external site - blame android?)
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