Sub contracting CIN process.

Hi SAPERS,
Please any body provide me the subcontracting scenarios, If CIN is implemented in any organization in india.
i.e. Is there any time we need to pay CENVAT, VAT to governament, If it is what are the registers to be updated? For which type of Material/Procurement it will happen?
Thanks in advance,
Prasad

Hi Janardhanan,
Thanks for quick answer, I have cleared the most of the part in my problem.
If the components supplied to the sub-contractor is imported items which having Customs duties, Excise, then we will pay the what ever the duties to the government, till this point i am clear.
The components provided to the subcontractor is raw/semi finished material, in that some % of the material scarp is generated. the scarp cost is 5% of the original component. Then the component cost is reduced to 95% onlythe charges of the subcontractorfright charges+miss. charges is become to Finished product cost.
In this case the scenario what is the tax to be paid for the subdontracting process?
Thanks in advance,
Prasad

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Next, I have done GR wrt PO referring SC Challan.All things are properly updated, scrap qty is shown with 545+ movement type.
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Hi All,
Since no response from long time. I am closing this issue
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Hi,
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Scenario 1
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Hi,
First scenario will be the right procedure as of my knowledge. You may test the scenario and validate the excise postings.
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Dear Experts,
I need to complete a sub contract sales process in SAP.
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I need sub contract in sales.
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Customer sent material to plant they need some process in our plant for that I need scenario and configuration.
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Hi Dharmananda rao
Sub Contracting Cycle :
(1) You have a material that can be procured externally, and you have maintained BOM with components. Any waste generated and received during subcontracting process can be maintained as component with negative quantity.
(2) You create a subcontracting PO (PO with Item Category L). You can also maintain Purchase Info Record for Subcontract category for material and subcontractor.
(3) You make a transfer posting to issue components for SC PO. Material is sent to subcontractor. As material remains under your ownership, system does not make any value entry. But quantity is shown as "Material Provided to Vendor"
(4) You receive finished material against SC-PO. You also specify components consumed in manufacturing of finished goods. Additionally, if you have negative components in BOM, now you'll also receive subcontracting by-products. There are three events, so three accounting entries are generated:
DR FG Stock/ SC By-Product Stock
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(for finished goods received)
DR Subcontracting Charges
CR GR/IR Clg
(for moneys payable to Subcontractor)
DR Consumption (Components)
CR Change in Stock (FG/ SC By-Product )
(material provided to Vendor is now charged to expense)
5) You do the IV for SC Invoice, and the process is complete.
Process of Subcontract in MM :
Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to becreated for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Inforecord and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
When you print the purchase order, the components are printed per order item
Subcontracting - Key Points
Special Procurement Process.
Item category: L
Order type: NB
In info record vendor should be maintained as subcontractor.
Vendor (Subcontractor) receives the components used to manufacture a finished product directly from your company or through third party.
Your company should place a purchase order for the finished product. In this manually you can enter the required individual components or it can be determined via the explosion of BOM (if exists).
Stock check at vendor level: ME2O
Company stock check: MMBE
GR for individual components through movement type: 501 or 561 (if with out PO or without reference).
GI to subcontracting vendor: through movement type 541.
GR from sub contracting vendor: through movement type: 101
Movement type 543 is displayed to cancel the material cost account.
If the subcontracting order has to be generated through materials planning,the special procurement key has to be set in MRP 2 screen.
- To create the Subcon Info Record : Tcode ME11 - Info Category - Click Subcontracting
- To create Material BOM : Tcode CS01
- With the Info and Material Setup, you can then create the Purchase Order in Tcode ME21N
Reward if useful to u

Sub-contracting Quality Rejection issue in QA32.

Dear sir.
when i am returning material to vendor in QA32 , i am getting the bellow error .( it is sub-contracting return process , scrap quantity is also there.).
1 KG Incorrect posting back to vendor, error message:
Goods movement not possible with mvt type 546, M7 96
message number M796.
please help me out in this issue.
regards
JRP

Dear.
You receive error message M7096 "Goods movement not possible with mvmt type 546" right.
You can use Transaction OMJJ to include the table entries. Enter 546 as the movement type and select the 'Allowed transactions' option. Make the additional entries here.
Or,
Insert a new entry in table T158B.
Call Transaction SM31.
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Sub-contracting for the Customer

Friends,
Here is one scenario where I need your suggestions
Scenario
Client A is subcontractor for their customer B
B receives 10 Components from A along with a subcontracting order from B to assemble material X (consisting of the 10 components supplied by Customer).
Part Number of the 10 components are also used by B for their other finished products which are sold against Customer Purchase Orders. This means they are Quantity and Value managed material. They are valuated material for them
Q1. How does B receive 10 components from A (T Code and movement type)
Q2. How do we prevent valuation of these 10 components in my plant. (Because the same part numbers are used by me and valuated in my plant)
Q3. Is there any implication if I include them in the BOM and the cost roll will not include the cost of those 10 components.
Thanks in advance for your response.

Sub-contract business process:
You want to buy material from the supplier (processed material/ assembled item) , but for some reason (quality of certain item / price ) you will give some component to vendor .
Vendor shall process the item / use the item provided & supply the final item.
SAP process:
1.Create the finished goods material code.
2.Maintain the BOM for the material.
3.Create PO with item category as "L" .
4.Issue material to vendor with movement type 541
5.Receive the material against the PO with movement type 101.
6.MIRO to account for vendor's invoice for the service charge& material used by him.
Note:: At the Time of GR 543 Mvt is up dated for Raw Material.
Can anybody tell me how a process has to be given to subcontracting?
Suppose, I have 3 operations 1)weaving 2)dyeing 3)cutting & packing
if no 2 process (i.e Dyeing) has to be given to subcontracting, what process should i follow ?
The following process to be followed for subcontracting.
1. Item code(material master) to be created at the stage of before dyeing.
2. Item code(material master) to be created after Dyeing as subcontracted item.(F30)
3. Bill of material to be created for the material(2) calling for material(1)
4. Info record and source list to be created for material(2) with the corresponding vendor
5. PO to be released for material (2)
6.Along with PO the material(1) to be issued to vendor
7.On receipt of material when GR is made the stock with vendor will get updated.
How to Create a Subcontract Order?
To create a subcontract order, proceed as follows:
Enter the material you want to order and the item category for subcontracting (L) in the order item.
Press ENTER to display the screen for component processing.
Enter the components that the vendor requires to manufacture the product.
Please note:
u2013 You do not need to enter the date required for the components. This date is proposed by the system when you press ENTER.
It is calculated as follows:
Delivery date of the item - Planned delivery time
u2013 If you do not want the quantity of the components to be changed if the order quantity of the end product is altered, set the indicator Fixed quantity (column F).
u2013 You can determine whether the components are available on the date required by selecting Edit -> Availability check.
If you entered a bill of material as the material in the subcontract order, the components are created automatically.
If you want to determine the components in the bill of material at a later date (for example, if the bill of material is subsequently changed), choose Item -> Component -> New BOM explosion. The existing components are deleted and redetermined in the bill of material.
Save the purchase order.
Q1. How does B receive 10 components from A (T Code and movement type)
see above
Q2. How do we prevent valuation of these 10 components in my plant. (Because the same part numbers are used by me and valuated in my plant)
Use split valuation so for sub contracting compenent will be one valuation and other component is other value
Q3. Is there any implication if I include them in the BOM and the cost roll will not include the cost of those 10 components.
No, costing is depend how you do costing

Sub contract process in india version

Hi gurus,
can anybody kindly tell the sub contract process in india? what is the process and how the configuration will be customized? my client having 4.6c, and recently implemented cin version.
given the full points for answer.
Raghav

This may help:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/erplo/cin+configuration&
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my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
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Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
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SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?

Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
SPRO->IMG>MM>Inv MGmt>GR-->price differences for subcontracting at GR
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Hi All,
While doing the GRN for subcontracting process ,cost object error is appearing for stock change SFG account ( BSV).
Business would like to do not assign the Default cost object for change in stock account. Kinldy confirm whether it is possible to determine Internal order number ,whcih same assigned to GRN for stock in change account SFG.
Any alternative method would be apprecaite
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Thanks to all of us for answers !!
We solved problem as mentioned !
1. Created separate SFG Stock change over subcontracting GL account and assigned same in OBYC - BSV & profit centre wise internal order defaulted in OKB9 settings.Also created sub contracting expenses GL and assigned OKB9 profit centre wise. ( Problem has been solved with separate GL account of stock change over)
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Rgds
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Shipping Point Determination for Sub contracting Process

Dear Experts,
While processing the GR for a Sub Contract Purchase Order, we are getting an Error 'VL 100 - Shipping Point XXX doesn't exists'
However, I am not understanding where from this Shipping point is picked.
Checked the Shipping point determination based on Loading Grp, Shipping conditions & Plant. But that is a different shipping point, and it is being picked while processing the outbound delivery for sending components thru 541 Movement.
It is clear that the Shipping point XXXX is not existing, but not sure, as where from that Shipping point is being determined while doing GR
Request for your inputs please
Thank you,
Best Regards,
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Hi Ramakrishna ,
What u earlier said is perfectly right : Shipping point determination based on Loading Grp, Shipping conditions & Plant
Check the following :
Are u posting GR through VL31N .
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Regards
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Dear All,
One of the my client using Sub contractig process MTO.Defined process like
1. Create process order based on Sales order ( Auto PR generate)
2. Sub contracting purchase order creation agaisnt PR
3. Material consumption againt 261 Movement
4. GR for service expenses
5. Process settlement for 101 Finished goods.
Now my business would want consumption posting along with GR ! But we sre unable to transfer goods ( Sales order assigned stock ) to Vendor SC stock through 541 Movement type. Is there any special way to transfer the same ?
Rgds
Suma

Hi,
The process we have used is and suggested by SAP is-
Prerequisite:
-Create vendor's place as a storage location.
-assign 311 E,312E, 543 E to movt type grouping for subcontracting challan.
- Make vendor field(LIFNR) mandatory at MB1B 311 E .
Process:
1 Create PO for material. with item category L
2 transfer the goods through 311 E to storage location created for vendor's stock.
3 Create Subcontracting challan with reference to 311E material document.
4 Make GR after goods recieved from vendor.
5 Consumption will follow from storage location against PO.(need to give vendor's storage location for consuming material)
regards,
sujit borse
Edited by: SNB on Dec 13, 2010 10:18 AM

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