Subcontracting and PM orders

Hello,
I have activated business function LOG_EAM_ROTSUB for subcontracting.
When trying to go through process where returned material is different then the one sent to subcontractor
Iu2019m getting following error message when trying to convert PR into P.O. : Material number 10000766 does not equal material number 10000170 of order item
Message no. AD_SUBCON013
In the maintenance order I have two materials assigned into subcontracting operation:
Material 10000170 with MPI Rework material to subcontractor
Material 10000766 with MPI Rework material from subcontractor (with negative value)
Do you have any suggestion what causes above mentioned error message?
Many thanks for your clues
Grzegorz

Hello Raj,
There is one thing which makes me wonderu2026
Do I understand you well? Do you mean that material with changed material number (with MPI u2013 u2018Xu2019) should have Item Category u2013 u2018Nu2019 u2013 why you are saying so?
When I try to maintain non stock material for subcontracted operation Iu2019m getting following: Item category N is not allowed for subcontracting Message no. AD_SUBCON097
My understanding isu2026 if subcontractor for some reason sends us material with changed material number then mentioned material with Material Provision Indicator u2013 u2018Xu2019 needs to be assigned into subcontracted operation in advance.
Also material which is about to be repair needs to be marked with indicator u2018Su2019.
Automatically created PReqs and then P.O. will have an item with material marked as X.
Then by calling MB1B we transfer material (with indicator S) which needs to be repair to subcontractor (movement type 541). When making GR via MB01 we receive given by vendor material with indicator X (movement type 101)
Please point out if my understanding is wrong.
Many thanks
Grzegorz

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