Subcontracting entry
hello gurus
i have accounting problem regarding subcontracting process in gr accounting entry are created like that
pk g/l ac description amount
89 24350001 SEMI FINISH STOC A/C 10,000.00
96 13110100 GR/IR-Clearing - Ext 1,200.00-
91 50000050 CHANGE IN STOCK 10,000.00-
86 50002530 JOB WORK. CHARGE 1,200.00
99 24340000 RAW MATERIALS STK 4,800.00-
81 50000000 CONSUMPTION RAW 4,800.00
99 24340000 RAW MATERIALS STK 4,800.00-
81 50000000 CONSUMPTION RAW 4,800.00
my query is that when thea/c no 50000050( third posting line)
will be debited .is there is any process in mm or pp due to which this a/c will be debited.if yes please tell which process.thanks
regards
k.chhikara
Mr.Chikkara!!!
I guess you have not reconcile your stock after goods receipt from Sub Cont vendor. When you will reconcile it, automaticaly it will get debited. Tcode for reconcilitation is J1IFQ.
reward if useful.
kapil
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Job Work with Payment of Excise Duty
Dear Gurus,
We have done full process of job work without payment of excise duty. but we also want job work with payment of excise duty. we didn't found any way to do this job.
When we make subcontracting entry with 541 mvt type and then make its excise challan with J1IF01, the all field related to excise value is disable thats why we can not put the value in it.
Please suggest something.
Regards
Pawan SardaHi
As per my knowledge,If you are sending your material with full excise value to your subcontracting vendor means its one type of saleing
Here you are sending material material with excise duty means its sure you dont get back your material in 180 days ,so while doing finsihed material your vendor will send finsihded material along excise value and you will capture tha excise value
I think In this scenario subcontracting Challan don't come in Picture
steps are follows
subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Capture Vendor Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
Post Excise Invoice for FG received from Subcontractor (J1IEX)
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Kailas Ugale -
Account entries with excise & without excise for Subcontracting process.
Please let me know the Account entries with excise & without excise for Subcontracting process.
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PBRhi..
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It may help u..
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Part I entries for subcontract
Dear All,
Can anybody pleaes give me information that how part I entries are updated in subcontracting process.
for example material A001 of 100 qty is to be sent out for processing outside and completely comsumed while 543
please explain as below.
541 - stock to subcontract - IWD - part 1 updated with issue in part I register (reduce 100 qty in part I)
542 - ??
543 - ??
545 - ??
Regards,
VimleshHi,
This is breifly about Sub contracting process. A) Following is the cycle of sub-contracting without payment of excise duty in SAP -
1) You maintain BOM of the material which you are ordering on the sub-contractor. The materials which you will be supplying to the vendor will be maintained in the BOM. This BOM will be for production use & will have to be released before ordering.
2) If the material you are supplying to the sub-contractor for processing is excisable, then you will have to maintain the details in J1ID with tick at Sub-Contracting. Similarly, if the material you receive from the subcontractor is also excisable then you have to maintain the details in J1ID table. If vendor is excisable then his details are also to be maintained.
3) In the material master of the ordered material, you maintain procurement as F (external procurement) & special procurement as 30 (Sub-Contracting) in MRP views.
4) You raise sub-contracting PO on the sub-contractor with item category as L (Sub-Contracting).
5) You do transfer posting of the child material in transaction MB1B with movement type 541 with reference to the PO you have raised on the sub-contractor.
6) If the material transferred to the subcontractor is excisable, then create subcontracting challan in transaction J1IF01 with reference to the transfer posting document, against which you have transferred the material to the sub-contractor. At this time there is no entry in the excise registers, because the cycle is Sub-contracting without payment of excise duty.
7) The sub-contractor processes the material & sends the processed material back to you.
8) You post the GRN with reference to the sub-contracting PO for the processed material & in the excise tab select option 'Refer the Sub-contracting Challan'. Then at 'More data' button, you refer the sub-contracting excise challan against which the material was transferred to the sub-contractor. During the GRN Posting, system books the consumption of the child componenets you supplied to the subcontractor. The accounting entries at the time of GRN posting are as below - Debit Inventory of Semifinished goods = XY Debit processing charges = Y Credit GR/IR Clearing = Y Credit semifinished inventory at sub-contractor = XY Debit raw material inventory at sub-contractor = X Credit raw material inventory at your plant = X
9) You then reconcile the material document with the sub-contracting challan at J1IFQ, by giving the material document number. This is because, you already have referred the challan at the time of posting GRN. If this reference was not done at GRN, then enter the challan number also at J1IFQ.
10) After reconcilation, you complete the challan at J1IF13. The process of posting challan to completing the same is to be done within 180 days because this is legal requirement. Otherwise you have to pay the excise duty on the raw material you supplied to the vendor, if the processed material is not received within 180 days.
11) You then post the invoice of the sub-contractor, which is nothing but for the processing charges for processing the child components.
B) Following is the cycle of Sub-Contracting with payment of excise duty -
1) You maintain master data of BOM & J1ID as mentioned above.
2) You raise sub-contracting PO as mentioned above.
3) You make transfer posting of child components to the sub-contractor as mentioned above.
4) You create Outgoing Excise invoice in transaction J1IS for the child components you suplied to the subcontractor. This actually makes entries in your excise register by reducing the available modvat credit by the amount of excise duty on the child components.
5) The subcontractor processes the material & sends you the processed material alongwith the excise invoice for the processed material.
6) You capture & post the excise invoice in transactionJ1IEX.
7) You post the GRN of the processed material by referring the subcontracting PO. The consumption of the child components is booked at the time of GRN. The accounting entries are same as mentioned above. You refer the exicse invoice at Excise tab be entering the Excise Invoice Number & date (of Sub-Contractor) in the respective fields.
8) You post invoice of the subcontractor, which now includes the processing charges & the excise duty on the processed material.
Regards
KK -
Subcontracting accounting entries in case purchse accout mgt. activated
Hi Friends,
We have activated Purchase accout management. In this case is there any changes in accounting entries in case of SUb Contra`cting process ?
I found it difficult to map in this case ? Does any one worked in this ?
Regards,
Sai KrihshnaHi Saikrishna,
Whenever you are activating purchase a/c mgmt your accounts will be hitted like this :
Inventory A/c + db
- cr Purchase Account
GR/IR Aclraeing -cr
+db Purchase offset account
This is normal entry,
But in case of subcontracting :"
Inventory a/c +db BSX
GR/R Clr -cr WRX
Change in Stk A/c -cr BRV
Subcontracting chrgs +db FRL
RM A/c -Cr BSX
RM a/c consumed +db GBB
Same entries are passing on.
Pls in doubt revert
Thanks and regards
Gitesh
Edited by: gitesh mahamuni on Sep 8, 2009 7:43 AM -
Subcontracting accounting entries at the time of GR reversal
Hello,
In Subcontracting procedure, when i required the one finsihed product,
then i send a two components for him 1)A1 2)A2
Finished material and materials A1 and A2 are mainatained in Standard price.
Through the MB1B i send the material provided to vendor next i did MIGO
in that case the Accounting entries are hitting are
1)Stock Account hitting by STD price of the component at time of posting.
2)Balance effect goes to Consumtion of raw material
is it correct?
At time of Reversal of the GR doc is it take the STD price of the componentsor avarage cummulative price based on the prvious std price.
Please guide me at the time of reversal how the accounting entries are hitting and at what base, the how PPV is calculated,
and if in between any price change then what are the accounting entries?
if anybody give me answer , iam greatful to him
Regards
sapmanIam facing this problem from last one month, nobody is giving the hints
frien'd update please -
Subcontracting accounting document entry
hello gurus
i have accounting problem regarding subcontracting process in gr accounting entry are created like that
pk g/l ac description amount
89 24350001 SEMI FINISH STOC A/C 10,000.00
96 13110100 GR/IR-Clearing - Ext 1,200.00-
91 50000050 CHANGE IN STOCK 10,000.00-
86 50002530 JOB WORK. CHARGE 1,200.00
99 24340000 RAW MATERIALS STK 4,800.00-
81 50000000 CONSUMPTION RAW 4,800.00
99 24340000 RAW MATERIALS STK 4,800.00-
81 50000000 CONSUMPTION RAW 4,800.00
my query is that when thea/c no 50000050( third posting line)
will be debited .is there is any process in mm or pp due to which this a/c will be debited.if yes please tell which process.thanks
regards
k.chhikaraHi
Module-wise detail given below:
Accounting :- In transaction OBYC for key BSV the change in stock assignment done for Valuation class.
MM- Material is created with special procument key as subcontracting in MRP view 2
PP - BOM is create for the same.
If the above answer is helpful kindly assign points
Thanks & Regards -
Subcontracting accounting entry
hello gurus
i have accounting problem regarding subcontracting process in gr accounting entry are created like that
pk g/l ac description amount
89 24350001 SEMI FINISH STOC A/C 10,000.00
96 13110100 GR/IR-Clearing - Ext 1,200.00-
91 50000050 CHANGE IN STOCK 10,000.00-
86 50002530 JOB WORK. CHARGE 1,200.00
99 24340000 RAW MATERIALS STK 4,800.00-
81 50000000 CONSUMPTION RAW 4,800.00
99 24340000 RAW MATERIALS STK 4,800.00-
81 50000000 CONSUMPTION RAW 4,800.00
my query is that when thea/c no 50000050( third posting line)
will be debited .is there is any process in mm or pp due to which this a/c will be debited.if yes please tell which process.thanks
regards
k.chhikaraHi Krishnan,
As per the details given by u, 50000050 will be a P&L account and 24350001 will be a balance sheet account.
U can get more help from ur FI consultant -
Is entries posted to copa in subcontracting
Hi
while doing the sub contracting scenario system giving an error message that the gl account is not assigned to value field in FI transfer structure.but in normal purchase order its not showing that message.i have a doubt that why system is showing error msg in subcontracting
can any body help me.......pls
regards
prasadHow are you posting subcontracting? Trough FI or trough MM?
Error message souds like you want to post trough FI, where you have to make some settings in OKOA
cheers
matej -
Accounting entries for subcontracting - MPVs
Hi gurus!
Does anyone SELL components to their subcontractors?
If you do, what GL postings do you record at the moment of components GR at the subcon?
I studied "Subcontracting with chargeable components" model, but this one does not seem to fit to the scenario when OEM actually transfers ownership for components to it's subcontractor...
Please advise,
MaraPlease follow this link to the docu SAP-Bibliothek
because in this link you can see the account documents in a bigger size than in the other link above.
This should clear your doubts. within this docu you will find many more links, e.g. to the normal subcontracting. You can then compare account postings between the alternatives yourself.
Of course there are much more account postings if you bill your subcontractor for the components, as they are in addition to the normal subcontract postings. -
Error while posting GR for subcontracting process
Dear Friends,
while creating a GR for a subcontracting PO, I get the following error. please suggest what to do. i checked the configuration for the movement type and could not come up with the solution.
Fld selectn for mvmt type 543 / acct 7449990 differs for Vendor goods movement (014)
Message no. M7093
Diagnosis
Comparison of the field selection strings from movement type 543 and G/L account 7449990 has revealed that there is an incompatible field selection combination at one or more points.
Field for which the field selection is different: Vendor goods movement
Example
On the movement type screen, a given field is a mandatory-entry field, whereas on the G/L account screen, the same field is suppressed.
System Response
You cannot post this transaction, unless you have changed the field selection adequately.
Procedure
Contact your system administrator.
Action to be taken by the system administrator
Check whether any postings resulting from this movement type are to be made to the G/L account determined automatically. If you find that the G/L account is not correct, check the automatic account determination in the Customizing system for valuation.
Proceed
If the G/L account is correct, use the report RM07CUFA to compare the field selection for the movement type with the field selection for the G/L account and change the incorrect settings or the field status group of the G/L account.
ProceedThe field is mandatory in acct 7449990 and hidden in movement type 543 or vice versa. To check the field status for that movement type, you can run the program RM07CUFA
Once you execute this program and found that the field is set to mandatory, then it should be mandatory for that movement type field status also.
Alternatively, Go to txn OMJJ, click on Movement Type and execute. There double click on "Field selection (Enjoy) and see whether the movement is maintained as Required Entry or Optional Entry.
Now go to FS00, input the G/L Account 7449990 and execute. There go to tab Create/bank/interest and chech whether you have maintained any value against "Field status group" and also you have checked the box for "Post automatically only".
This should be done in consultation with FI people only if the issue is in production client.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi -
Account determination error in Subcontract PO-MIGO.?
Hi all
While doing GR, i mgetting error i "Account determination for entry LDCA BSV 0001 ___ 5010 not possible".
The above PO is subcontract PO .
Thanks
sap-mHi,
For subcontracting..maintain these keys..so that you will not get any problem..
BSX, BSV, WRX, PRD, FRL
Regards,
Prasath -
Report for issuing componets to subcontracting materials
Hi
I am trynig to develop a report for issung components to subcontacrting maerial
as per our scenerio... every day we are creating purchase orders item cat L for subcontract material
then issue the materials against to subcon. pur.order...then do GR with 101..
as per our requirement...
report input entries..like 1. subcon material code
2. from date --- to --- todate
out put..for report..like.... total consumption of components with line item wise (as per bom) with that pertical period..
for this any std. report is there ?
or if go for zreport....pls guide to me..
any one can suggest to me
thanku
regards
sesidharHI,
Certain set of inforamtion can be availed in MB51 and using 541 Mvt type..
But it is better that you develop a zreport to get the information what you wanted if you are not satisfied with the MB51 report from standard SAP.
Try MBLB also
Thanks & Regards,
Kiran -
Account postings in GR & IR for Subcontracting
Hi Experts,
I need to know the account postings for both GR & IR during Sub contracting.
Let us take the scenario . .
PO price - 1000(Gross) + 200(Tax) = 1200 (Net) for 1 Qty
GR - PO Net Price due to Moving Average price.
IR - 1200(Gross) + 240 (Tax) = 1440
Please explain the accounting entries during Goods Receipt and Invoice Receipt.
By
PrabhuIf Material has Price Control as "V" (MAP)
(BSX) Stock A/c of Assembly - Dr
(BSV) Change in Subcon Stock - Cr
(FRL) Subcontracting Charges - Dr
(WRX) GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
(BSX) Stock A/c of Components - Cr
(GBB-VBO) Consumption A/c of Components - Dr
If Material has Price Control as "S" (Std. Price)
If Material is having Price Control as "S" then Price Difference A/c will also in picture.
This depends on configuration; SPRO > MM > Inventory Management and Physical Inventory > Goods Receipt > Price Differences for Subcontract Orders at Goods Receipt
Price Differences for Subcontract Orders at Goods Receipt
In this step, you configure for each valuation area whether price differences are generated for a Subcontract order at the time of a goods receipt if the manufactured material is managed at standard price and the standard price varies from the receipt value (externally performed service + value of components + delivery costs).
Example
Finished product: $400 (value at standard price)
Subcontract order:
o Ext. service : $250
o Components : $100
Posting schema without price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 400 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
Consumption account : 100 +
Posting schema with price differences:
Stock account FERT : 400 +
Stock change : 350 -
Price difference : 50 -
GR/IR clearing acct : 250 -
External service acct : 250 +
Compon. stock account : 100 -
Consumption account : 100 +
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Duties Reversal in case of subcontracting
Hi Friends
What is the procedure to reverse excise duties in case of subcontracting material not returned within 180 days.
Regards
VivekHi,
Go to J1IF13, here use following to reverse challan;
Enter the challan number and year.
Choose "Enter" button
Select Reverse Challan.
Save the challan.
Accounting Entry: -
Cenvat Reversal Dr.
Cenvat Account Cr.
And to Recrediting the CENVAT Account;
1. Enter the challan number and year.
2. Choose "Enter" button
3. Select either of the following options:
- Take Recredit for Receipts
This leaves the challan open for further goods receipts.
- Take Recredit If Any and Complete Challan
This completes the challan and writes off finally any CENVAT credit that you might have been able to claim.
Save the challan.
Accounting Entry: -
Cenvat Account Dr.
Cenvat Reversal Cr.
Note: - For this Account Determination for ETT "57NR" and Subtras Type "01" should be mainatined.
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