Subsequent debit with excise

Hi
We are reciving the subsequent invoices for the last one month PO's with excise components
How we can take the credit of Cenvat and control the valuation of the material.(as, some stock must be consumed)
With Regards
Niti Narayan

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Subsequent delivery and subsequent debit

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material type: NLAG
account assignemnt (PO): cost center, non valuated GR
Scenario:
1. GR (MIGO) - material_document1, qty 100
2. IR (MIRO) - invoice1 for material_document1, qty 100
> vendor makes correction because qty is more or less than the original
3. GR (MIGO) - material document2 - qty 20 (sum qty for PO item is 120)
4. IR (MIRO) - subsequent_debit1 for 20 pcs
These connections / links should exist:
Material_document1 - invoice1
Material_docuemt2 - subsequent_debit1
My question
How can I solve this? Is it posible to book the subsequent debit with reference to material_docuement2?
If I create the subsequent invoice it is valid only for material_document1 EVEN IF I do material_document2 as SUBSEQUENT DELIVERY in MIGO (in this case the two material documents are connected). SAP expects an additional invoice for material_document2 (but it is linked to material_docuement1!).
In my opinion it cannot be solved since the debit/credit memo refers to the "original" material document (1) and invoice (1).
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Csaba
My question was a little bit incoherent...
I wanted SAP to suggest the to-be-credited qty&value automatically in case of returns to vendor - but it's not possible in standard system as per my best knowledge .
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:18 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Mar 4, 2009 9:22 PM

Hi Bala krishnan,
when there is a price difference this entry would takes place. while reversing the same should be reversed, in your case the system is posting to another account.
please check the account key against the wrong line item ( this you can see with the help of changing layout), then goto OBYC and check the gl accounts assigned against that. To check either it is right or wrong compare with the standard/default company codes settings i.e 0001 co.cd.
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There is no problem if a vendor invoice and subsequent debit is processed before customer billing. There is also no problem if if a vendor invoice and subsequent debit is processed after customer billing. There is only an issue when the vendor invoice is received first, then customer billing then subsequent debit applied.
Can someone describe how the VPRS on the billing document is updated in SAP? Any information on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,
In the order, the cost is generally taken from the valuation segment
of the material master. In the billing document, however, it may have
other sources. Depending on the business transaction, the costs can be taken from the goods issue of the billed delivery or, in the case of a
third-party order processing or individual purchase order, from the
respective purchase order, the goods receipt or the invoice verification in purchasing. As an example, only the goods issue will be mentioned here. However, the descriptions also apply to costs from purchase orders, goods receipts or invoice verifications. These costs are entered externally in pricing and included in the value of the VPRS condition. The amount is obtained by calculating back amount = value / quantity.
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Subsequent debit tax calculating wrong

dear guru
while doing subsequent debit for the vendor the Excise duty is calculating wrong
my issue is like this
i have purchase 100 quty with value 10/kg total amount is 1000 for that
ED is calculated 140
Ecess calculated 3
S&H calculated 1
i have done goods receipt and posted invoice also
now i that part of the quantit i have returne
lets 50 kg i have retune for that MIRO,MIGO,JIS,J1iV i have done
next vendor will send the suplimentry invocie because the rate is increase for that 50 quantiy, for that i will do J1IH for the additional excise and i will do MIRO subsequent debit for the rate increse in miro the tax amount is calculating wrong, ie
lets for 50 quantity total amoun increased 100
ed should calculate 14 but it is calculating 28
for that i have to apply any note
pl tell me urgent
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jrp

My understanding about the Input Tax and Output Tax was wrong. In the issue reported
Input Tax Calculation should be:
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29100
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 900 (@3% on 30000)---my understanding was wrong.
Input Tax 3% should be charged on Expense amount, in this case Rs 30000. But because in the editing option calculate tax on net amount option was not selected, hence SAP was giving the below entry, which is correct as well.
Vendor A/C.............. Cr 30000-
Expense A/C............ Dr 29126.21
Input Tax A/C............ Dr 873.79 (@3% on 29126.21) which is correct.
Hence, the Vendor amount should be Expense + Input Tax= 30000 * 3%=900 + 30000 (expense) = 30900.
Correct Entry should be:
Vendor A/C...............Cr 30900
Expense A/C............Dr 30000
Input Tax A/C............Dr 900
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Revaluation run (MRNB) v/s Subsequent Debit / Credit (MIRO)

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We are working on ECC 6.0.
I'am aware how to use MRNB & posting subsequent debit / credit note through MIRO.
I want to know when to use MRNB in comparison to Subsequent Debit / Credit?
Suppose vendor has suppiled certain goods at Rs 100 per unit. Invoice have already been posted against the GRs. Now the vendor asks for additional Rs. 2 per unit.
In such a scenario should MRNB or Subsequent credit is to be posted?
I've noticed that when MRNB is used material MAP remains unaffected unlike posting a Subsequent Credit / Debit. Why it remains unaffected during MRNB run? If the material price is changed then its impact should also come on inventory which doesnt happen in MRNB.
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Subsequent Debit and Credits
After an Invoice is successfully posted and the transaction is completed, Vendor approaches with additional amount invoice or correction in Invoice.You would like to post this additional invoice with reference to the original PO and item. Subsequent Debit / Credit functionality allows you to capture this difference without canceling original invoice.
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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/a8/b99890452b11d189430000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Hy Guys,
i am facing currently a problem with my understanding of system behaviour for GR Based Invoice Verification in combination with Subsequent Debit Postings...
Example 1 - System Behaviour in case of PO based Invoice Verification:
PO with 3000 PC Material XYZ / Price 10 EUR
Goods Receipt for all 3000 Pieces
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Situation is now:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10 / Stock Value = 10.000 EUR
Subsequent Debit Posting for 300 EUR / 3000 PC
Result is that Stock Account is debited with 100 EUR / Price Difference with 200 EUR
New Situation is:
Valuated Material XYZ with Stock Quantity 1000 PC / MAP 10,1 / Stock Value = 10.100 EUR
This makes sense to me!!!
Example 2 - System Behaviour in case of GR based Invoice Verification:
PO with 3000 PC Material XYZ / Price 10 EUR
Seperate Goods Receipt for 1000 PC - three times
Goods Issue for 2000 Pieces
Situation is now:
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New Situation is:
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Hi Gregor,
Wellcome to SCN. Please, see SAP Note 308008 - FAQ: Posting logic: GR/IR clearing account, and related notes.
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Dear SAP Experts,
I am in search of the Document type (Sales) , though which there can be subsequent debit credit to the billing document (Which is already posted to accounting) and the new accounting document should be created with the invoice reference as the Acc. Document of the original billing Doc:
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Next Subsequent Credit :   Billing document (F2)
Accounting Document 220056537292 (DZ)    But in the INV. Ref: there should be 22000089789
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Dear SAP Consultant,
If, I have understood correctly, This is because,
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Hello
Thanks for ur Reply.
MIRO -- Subsequent Debit -
>Tax code - S3 ( 10.30 % Services Tax) -
>PO NO. -
> change Vendor ( Import Vendor to Domestic Vendor) -
> Amount 4000 INR -
> also change Tax Code of Line Item   -
>Simulate
Vendor A\c -
>   4,348.18 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>     338.04 INR Dr
ECS             -
>         6.76 INR Dr
HECS          -
>       3.38 INR Dr
Above process I m doing against Import PO but I m not identify why its calculated Wrong Service Tax or calculating on which base amount ?
Actual Entry
Vendor A\c -
> 4,412.00 INR Cr
Stock A\c -
> 4,000.00 INR Dr
Service Tax -
>    400.00 INR Dr
ECS             -
>        8.00 INR Dr
HECS          -
>      4.00 INR Dr
Edited by: pawansarda on Jan 21, 2012 11:41 AM

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what is the difference between subsequent debit, credit and credit memo in MIRO transaction.
In case of vendor had given us credit note with relevant to particular for which we had already completed the invoice verification and payment also paid.
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Hi
You need to use a credit memo.
Subsequent debit is used if you have already invoiced
You have already received an invoice from your vendor for all the goods received. Subsequently, freight costs are to be taken into account, however, the invoice quantity remains the same.
Subsequent credit is used if you already have done a credit memo on the PO
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I ma faicing an issue with subsequnet debit posting.
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Hi,
to all SAP Guru,
Account Postings Made when an Invoice Is Posted as a Subsequent Debit:
PO- 100 Piece @ 10 Rs
GR- 50 Piece
Invoice 70 Piece @ 11 Rs == 770 Rs
Invoice for Rs 105 for 70 Pieces (Subsequent Debit).
At GR:-
Stock Account- 500+
GR/IR Account- 500-
At invoice-
Stock account- 50+
GR/IR account- 720+
Vendor Account- 770-
Subsequent Debit-
Stock Account- 75+
GR/IR Account- 30+
Vendor Account- 105-
So my question is
At Invoice- How stock account Dr.with 50, GR/IR Dr. with 720 Came........
& At Subsequent Debit- How Stock Account Dr.with 75, GR/IR Dr. with 30, came.....
plz sir/mam help me out..bcoz i always get confuse in account posting
And Same plz give me example of Subsequent Credit that how
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plz........

At invoice-
Stock account- 50+
GR/IR account- 720+
Vendor Account- 770-
invoice price is 5 rs more than PO price, and you use moving average price so the additional price is hitting inventory account. If you use standard price, 50 will go to PRD account.
Subsequent Debit-
Stock Account- 75+
GR/IR Account- 30+
Vendor Account- 105-
If the quantity of the subsequent debit/credit is larger than the quantity delivered, the system distributes the relevant amount proportionally. The part of the subsequent debit/credit that does not have a goods receipt is posted to the GR/IR clearing account. The remaining amount is posted to the stock account u2013 or in the case of standard price control or insufficient stock coverage u2013 to a price difference account. picked from [http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/a8/b99725452b11d189430000e829fbbd/content.htm]
In your case, system proportianately distributes the stock.. i.e 105/75 = 1.5.. you have stock of 50.. 50*1.5 = 75 which goes to stock account and the remaining goes the GR/IR clearing account. subsequent debit value 105 is credited with vendor account.. same happen in subsequent credit in a reverse way.

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