Successful Multi-Base Station Setup!

So this might be old hat to a lot of you in here, but I've had my TC for a few days now, and I'm quite proud of the fact I was able to successfully set up my home wireless network to take full advantage of my TC, Mushroom AEBS, and AX wireless routers. I bought the TC originally for both the wireless backup benefit and to complement my new 20-inch iMac, which is N-capable. My girlfriend and I both use B/G MacBooks on the home network, too, though, and I have an AX for wireless iTunes through my home stereo. Below, in the layest of layman's terms, is what I did to accomplish this:
My TC is set up at 802.11 N-only (5 Ghz)
My AEBS is hardwired via ethernet cable to the TC, and is set up to "Create a Wireless Network" (with a similar name to the TC's network). The AEBS also connects to the internet via ethernet. Finally, it's in Brige Mode off.
My AX is set up to join the AEBS's wireless network.
After all that, and after some checking to make sure my throughputs are what they ought to be (via the Network Utility and using the CONTROL-CLICK check on the wireless status indicator on the right end of the menu bar), I can happily say that I've been able to make this work. One of my biggest fears (being a layman) was that I wouldn't be able to play iTunes wirelessly from my iMac because the AX was on a different network, but that's not the case. If anything, this setup seems to have fixed the problem I was having before with stop-and-start playback.
Look forward to hearing any thoughts on this, but overall, I'm very happy with the new TC.

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Best option for multiple Airport Extreme base station setup

I'm looking for the best way to setup my wireless network at home. I have a fairly large two story home with some ethernet cable run to various rooms upstairs and downstairs. Basically I was thinking if I could use some of the wired connections in my home the wireless network might be faster (instead of just rebroadcasting the wireless signal with multiple airports).
In my laundry room (downstairs) I have my cable modem, an 8 port switch and my airport extreme. Currently, the cable modem is hooked up to my Airport Extreme (via ethernet cable) and then I have an ethernet cable running from the airport to the switch. The various ethernet cables that run through my home are then plugged into that switch.
In my office (upstairs) I have a live ethernet jack (one that runs down to that switch downstairs), but instead of having the airport plugged into that ethernet jack I have the second airport extreme just "extending the network". Is there a way to utilize the wired connection inorder to have a stronger signal to broadcast for the upstairs wifi?
I've seen WDS mentioned before, is that what I need to setup? Basically, I just want to know what the best way is to setup the wireless network to keep the speeds as good as they can be.
Thanks!

Good news, you can use Ethernet to connect the Apple routers together.
Perform a Hard Reset on the upstairs AirPort Extreme by holding in the reset button for 9-10 seconds and then releasing. Allow a full minute for the Extreme to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.
Connect the Ethernet cable to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort. ( I assume that you have tested the cable by connecting a computer to it directly to make sure that it is working).
Click the AirPort icon at the top of the screen on the Mac
Wait a few seconds for a listing of New AirPort Base Station to appear
Just below that, click on AirPort Extreme (the example below shows an AirPort Express)
AirPort Setup will open up automatically and take a minute to analyze the network, then announce that the AirPort will be configured to extend your other AirPort router.
Enter a device name that you want to use for the AirPort...(you can use the same device name as before if you wish), then click Next.
Now AirPort Setup will indicate that the AirPort is being configured to extend using Ethernet.
When you see the message of Setup Complete, click Done
You are all set.

Sky and Airport Base Station setup

Hi,
I seem to be having all kinds of issues with my Wireless network setup. So much so that I'm going insane with it all.
Now I don't pretend to be an expert in networking issues, I'm a consumer and I am a designer - I don't do technical stuff. Hence why I am asking the question here.
But I am a good listener, and I'm hoping to learn how to do this the right way.
Ok.
I have a router that came with my Sky Broadband, and I have an Airport Base Station which I connect to my Sky Router and broadcast a network from the Airport.
Problem is I think I've messed up settings and it's just on an unbelievable go-slow.
Rather than me try and detail all my settings, what are the ideal settings for something like this?
I'm getting less than 1mb download speeds, when I should be getting closer to 7.
I've got iStumbler installed and i've got like 40% signal with 12% noise.
Now I've just noticed my Airport Base Station is showing a warning icon and that the device is not found.
Help.

Timothy, you're right... the change to 10.4.8 has had us in "Airport ****" ever since the update. Whenever the PB can't find the Airport Extreme (more than 1/2 the time), we open "Network" in "System Preferences" and it's trying to use a 10.xxx address, instead of the 192.xxx or 168.xxx that it should be using.
Our work-around has been to click the "Configure" Button in the "Network" window and then click the "Renew DHCP Lease" button. This results in a change to the address... to a 192.xxx address, as it should be.
Your post got me to thinking, so I went into the "Airport Admin Utility", selected our Airport Extreme Base Station, and clicked on the "Configure" icon. When I went to the third tab (Network) I saw the "Share a single IP address" was set to use a 10.xxx address! What? So, I changed it to use a 192.xxx since there is no 168.xxx option. I have a feeling this may solve our problem...

Need help with airport base station setup

I have a classroom with a dozen G5 Mac Pros running Tiger and we want to allow them to use a couple of A3 photo-quality inkjet printers and a couple of flatbed scanners.
I see that the airport base station extreme only has one usb port.
Is it possible to use one airport extreme base station to connect all of these peripherals, add airport cards to each Mac Pro, and be able to use any of the printers or scanners from any of the Macs?
What other equipment is necessary?
Should we look to buy any specific printers or scanners that will be more compatible?
Is there some other approach that will work better?
Thanks for any advice.

one usb port but user can connect a multi port usb power hub for multiple devices. I run three Lacie quadras connected to a seven port Belkin hub to the Extreme N router.

Airport Express Base Station Setup problem

My new Airport Express Base Station (2nd generation) does not sense the internet using an ethernet cable. The status light is green. I am using a hotel's DSL system in Brazil. When using the same cable, and connecting my laptop directly to the system, it senses the internet just fine, so I know it isn't the cable or the hotel. Does anyone know of compatibility problems with this Airport model?

Does the DSL service require PPPoE for authentication before allowing you Internet access? If so, then the device directly connected to the DSL modem would need to be configured as such.

Base Station Setup Question

When setting up a new Base Station with a MacBook Pro, it is asking for:
Client Name
ID Number
Where do I find this info??
Thanks
V.

Could you describe what application you are running and the exact wording of the prompt?

Why can I no longer print from my Windows XP computers to my Bonjour connected Canon printer thru an Airport Extreme Base Station (f/w 7.6.4, model A1301)?

Something has changed recently and I haven't figured it out. My 2 Windows XP computers are no longer able to print via Bonjour. I have tried removing and reinstalling Bonjour. Upgrading the firmware on the AIrport Extreme Base Station and comparing Port settings from an able to print Windows Vista laptop. Port settings match and Bonjour says it sees the printer...but the communication is not happening between the computer and the networked printer, it times out and produces an error in the print que. Both XP computers have no problem using the internet via the Base Station. One is wired and one is wireless. Thoughts?

Sounds a bit like a problem being discussed in this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2651093&tstart=0
I suspect some kind of update is at fault. Like you, my printer/base station setup had been working fine until recently.

Extreme Base Station

I have a MacBook Pro and a XP Desktop computer. I bought a new Extreme Base Station in November and for the last several weeks when I am on my MacBook and my husband gets on the PC it knocks him off and cannot find the server. Any ideas why this is happening?

Peter Dino,
You might want to go to
AirPort Manuals
and take at look at the pictures in these two manuals: AirPort Extreme Base Station Setup Guide v4.2 and Designing AirPort Networks v4.2
You will be able to see the configurations which are possible. This may help you apply the options available to your particular setup and computer / computers.
No Alibi.
(I have no experience with machines capable of 802.11n networks. Manuals for those are available also.)
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Simple How-To # 1: Adding additional base stations

That's all I need. A series of simple, step-by-step 'how-to's'.
I've been using Macs for almost 20 years, but find the instruction manual and software for the new Airport Utility [AEBSn device] to be particularly unhelpful.
I need to add an AX to extend the range of my network [and be able to use my brand-new printer]. The software seems to be instructing me to, "change base stations"? Why? The older Airport Admin Utility [supplied with AX's] did not use such counter-intuitive instructions and was much simpler to set up multiple base stations. What gives Apple?
Give it to me simple Apple, my brain cells aren't getting any brighter! Is there anyone out there that can post simple step-by-step instructions? I'm sure I won't be the only one appreciating that kind gesture.
Anyone?

AEBSn - WDS Setup
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete.)
Main Base Station Setup (AEBSn)
- Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the main base station.
- Open AirPort Utility (located in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
- Select the main base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base
Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window.
- Enter the base station password if necessary. If the base station is using the
default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
- Click Wireless in the toolbar, and then choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu.
- Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
- Select the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox if you want client computer to connect to this base station.
- Click the Add button and enter the MAC address of the base stations you want to connect to this base station.
- Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
Remote Base Station Setup (AX)
- Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as a remote base station.
- Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
- Select the remote base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
- Enter the base station password, if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
- Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
- Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
- Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
- Enter the MAC address of the main base station in the WDS Main field. The MAC address is also referred to as the AirPort ID and is printed on the label on the bottom of the base station.
- Click Update to transfer the settings to the base station.
(ref: Pages 41-45 of "Designing AirPort Extreme 802.11n Networks.

Has anyone else's Airport base station died?

My base station just went down...They are currently on back order everywhere...For some reason I cant get my airport express to connect at home, I have full bars, but it wont connect to the internet....any advice?
(Ive used the express many times before while traveling, with no problems at all)
thanks in advance.

You didn't stipulate DSL or Cable, but try the following:
AirPort Express Base Station Setup (AX) w/High-Speed Cable Modem
Modem/Router Power ReCycling
- Power-off the Cable modem, AX, & computer(s). (If possible, leave the modem off overnight.)
- Power-on the Cable modem; Wait at least 30 minutes.
- Power-on the AX; Wait at least 5 minutes.
- Power-on the computer(s)
Perform a "hard" reset of the AX
- (ref: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108044)
Setup the AX
With the network components powered down, set up the AX, using the AirPort Admin Utility, connect your computer directly (using an Ethernet cable) to the Ethernet port of the AX, and then, try these settings:
AirPort tab
- Base Station Name: <whatever you wish or use the default>
- AirPort Network Name: <whatever you wish or use the default>
- Create a closed network (unchecked)
- Wireless Security: Not enabled
- Channel: Automatic
- Mode: 802.11b/g Compatible
Internet tab
- Connect Using: Ethernet
- Configure: Using DHCP
- WAN Ethernet Port: Automatic
Network tab
- Distribute IP addresses (checked)
- Share a single IP address (using DHCP & NAT) (enabled)

No AirTunes or Base Station in the Admin Utility on ONE iMac

I have several AirPort Base Stations setup in a single roaming type network. A few of them are AirPort Express models with speakers connected. I can see all my speakers and base stations from the AirPort Admin Utility from all my Macs all the time except one iMac G5.
Most of the time when I reboot this particular iMac G5 (due to a software update, etc.) when it comes back up, it connects to my network and I can surf the web. However, iTunes no longer sees any of the speakers and the AirPort Admin Utility doesn't list any of the base stations. When this happens I have to reboot/shut down/start up the iMac several times before it starts seeing the AirTunes equipped base stations and the airport admin utility sees them.
When this happens I can go to any other Mac and they all see the base stations no problem. So this is limited to just one Mac.
Last night I returned from a vacation. I turned on the iMac G5 and it took about 7 restarts before iTunes would see the speakers. This has been going on for a while on this particular Mac. I thought I had it solved when I reconfigured the account I log on with to be an Admin of that Mac. Then they showed up immediately. However, on the next restart, I had the same problems again.
About my network
5 Express Base Stations with Speakers/Stereos, etc.
1 of the above is connected via WDS (the main AE that is wired and sharing via WDS happens to be the one closest to this iMac.)
1 AirPort Extreme Base Station
The rest are connected via Ethernet.
There is only one network and it is WEP secured (WPA is not an option because of one device on my network that doesn't support WPA)
All other Macs work fine on this network and always see the speakers
The one thing that works sometimes is to shut down the iMac. Then unplug the closest AE (which has the speakers connected to it that the iMac uses the most). Boot up the iMac so that it connects to the next closest base station. Launch iTunes and SOMETIMES it will see the other speakers. I can then plug back in the AE and in a few minutes those speakers show up in iTunes. This is what worked last night after several reboots. However, this doesn't always work the first time.
I'm very tempted just to run an ethernet cable to this iMac and end my frustration, however, I'm curious as to why this is happening and what can be done to fix it? I'd also like to avoid the extra cable.
Any help would be appreciated.
The iMac is a 20" G5 with built-in iSight. All other network ports are turned off so that it only looks for AirPort. I have also tried deleting and re-adding the Preferred network. I have tried logging in as a different user and it still doesn't show the speakers/base stations. The iMac has the latest system/firmware updates.

Hi Terry,
Sounds like a difficult situation.
Is it possible for you to try using a Ethernet cable from your iMac to the nearest Airport Express and then see if you can see/access your Airport Expresses? Wondering if you might be having a problem with the Airport on your iMac.
Is this iMac near another mac that can see/access these Airport Expresses? If not there could be interference problems.
Interference
let us know what happens....
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Designing a network with 6 base stations and an Access control lists

I have 6 airport extreme (802.11n) base stations setup in my studio.
I'm a little concerned about security as they're all setup individually (wireless mode: Create a wireless network) with the same Network names (mystudio) and WPA/WPA2 personal password so my roaming users don't have to keep entering passwords / experience dropouts etc
i have lots of freelancers who are in and out of the studio and there isn't anyway for me to monitor who is currently connected to my wifi network.
i'd like to setup a wireless network that only allows you to connect to the WIFI network only if your MAC address is on the access control list.
is this possible with Apple Airport extreme base stations or would it be a better idea for me to invest in a 3rd party product?
all the base station are connected to an Ethernet point and have static IP's assigned to them.
whats the best way to deploy such a solution;should i keep the setting as they are and manually enter the mac address for 30 portable machines on each base station or is there a more pragmatic solution...
any help / input would be much appreciated.
Thank You

When employing Access Control in a roaming network configuration, the MAC addresses would be required to be entered atr each of the base stations ... as there is no means (unfortunately) to have them "automatically" migrate amongst them.
However, one important thing to note. Only wireless security, using WPA or WPA2, will actually secure the wireless network. MAC addresses can easily be spoofed. Someone, determined to do so, can still access your network ... even if secured by Access Control.

Airport utility base station indicator conflict

After upgrading firmware to 7.6, I'm having an odd issue with the Airport Utility. I have a dual base-station setup, connected together via twisted pair so that the second unit is in bridge mode. It has been working well for over a year.
From the enclosed picture, you can see that the summary shows amber for both base stations, but when I bring up details, everything is green. The network is working fine. Also, the IOS Airport Utility reports everything is fine.
This did not happen before the firmware upgrade - back then everything was green.
Any ideas?

It is always a good idea to power cycle the entire network after any firmware update to any of the AirPort devices.
Try the following:
Power everything down on the network....all devices....order is not important
Wait a few minutes
Power up the modem first and let it run for a minute
Power up the next device connected to the modem the same way
Keep powering up devices the same way until everything is back up
Check the network again using AirPort Utility

Airport Extreme Base station + Relay Inquiry

My Airport Express Base station died on me so I replaced it with an Airport Extreme. I immediately noticed the lack of wds support and a simplified network setup option.
So I updated all my other relay stations to the newer network(Airport Express btw).
I found that the Ethernet connections weren't functioning anymore. Why?
To make it clear, I'm trying to connect a non-wireless computer to my wireless network through a relay station.
Is this still doable?

Yep! I can understand that!
Here are the basic setup steps for creating a WDS with a mixed (802.11n/g) base stations:
AEBSn - WDS Setup
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete. Also, jot down the AirPort IDs (MAC addresses) for each of the base stations to be used in the WDS. The AirPort ID and is printed on the label on the bottom/side of the base station.)
Main Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the main base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (located in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the main base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base
Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window.
o Enter the base station password if necessary. If the base station is using the
default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Click Wireless in the toolbar, and then choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Select the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox if you want client computer to connect to this base station.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the AirPort ID of the base station you want to connect to this base station.
o Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
Remote Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as a remote base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the remote base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Enter the base station password, if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
o Enter the AirPort ID of the main base station in the WDS Main field.
o Click Update to transfer the settings to the base station.
Relay Base Station Setup
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar to join the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the relay base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the relay base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS relay” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Enter the AirPort ID of the main base station in the Main AirPort ID field.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the AirPort ID of the remote base station this relay base station will connect to.
o Click Update to transfer the new WDS settings to the relay and remote base stations.
(ref: Pages 42-46 of "Designing AirPort Networks.)

Using both Airport Extreme Base Station and Airport Express

I am using a Airport Extreme and a AX, my goal is to use the base unit on one floor of the home and they AX as an extender.
I have linked the AX unit to join the existing network, now how to do I enable WEP 128 bit?

Here are the WDS setup steps...
AEBSn - WDS Setup
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete.)
Main Base Station Setup (AEBSn)
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the main base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (located in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the main base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base
Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window.
o Enter the base station password if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Click Wireless in the toolbar, and then choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Select the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox if you want client computer to connect to this base station.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the MAC address of the base stations you want to connect to this base station.
o Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
Remote Base Station Setup (AX)
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as a remote base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the remote base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Enter the base station password, if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
o Enter the MAC address of the main base station in the WDS Main field. The MAC address is also referred to as the AirPort ID and is printed on the label on the bottom of the base station.
o Click Update to transfer the settings to the base station.
(ref: Pages 41-45 of "Designing AirPort Extreme 802.11n Networks.

Successful Multi-Base Station Setup!

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