Suggestions for starting a CMYK project

I keep getting results for converting rgb to cmyk and vice versa but I only need some step-by-step instructions for how to start a new document in CMYK and best 'settings' suggestions.
I am working on a logo for someone that will be using a commercial printing press for their output and this doc will start out at a size of 8.5 x 11 using Photoshop CS2
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Dave

Also I am looking for info on setting prior to going to print.
Just make sure you pick the right CMYK profile (ask!). Standards vary around the globe, and with different printing conditions.
You also need to watch total ink limit. This is specified in the profile and is typically 300 - 330% (full coverage would be 400%) - but if you make subsequent adjustments it's easy to exceed the limit. Use the info panel (it can be set to read out total ink).
In any case logos are better off as vector files, not raster (for scalability). Illustrator would be a better tool.

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I. I passed the CLAD a couple of weeks ago, and I have started studying for the CLD. Part of the CLD is following both of these recommendations (see page 6 of http://ftp.ni.com/evaluation/certification/cld/cld_exam_prep_guide_english.pdf). While this isn't a reason in and of itself, it suggests that if it important when being certified it is important in practice!
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So that is what I think so far. Is there anything else I am missing to support following those two recommendations or am I just being inflexible?
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2. Put the remaining user interface VIs in a separate folder. Again, it makes it very clear what the functionality of these VIs are.
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www.saintbernardengineering.com

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