Sun Plug-In vs. Microsoft JVM

I'm looking for current percentages as to how many systems have Sun Plug-In vs. Microsoft JVM installed. Creating an application in which I want to force the end-users to use the Sun Plug-In but I need the current percentages to help convince my customer. If anyone knows of a site where I can find this information, would be much appreciated.

I don't know percentages but if you will have users on Windows XP or Longhorn, you can forget about using the Microsoft JVM cause it won't be there. Since you are creating a new application, I think it is a no-brainer to use Sun. In fact, Microsoft has published guides on transitioning away from the Microsoft JVM - see http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/

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Differences between Sun JVM and Microsoft JVM.
I have a very simple applet that I am trying to make compatible with both Microsoft�s JVM and Suns JVM in Internet Explorer.
However, when I turn on the Sun JVM it works occasionally, but frustratingly on most occasions I get the following error messages:
In the status bar: "Applet <name> notinited"
And when I investigate further in the console I get the following output:
load: class <name>.class not found.
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: <name>.class
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.net.SocketException: Malformed reply from SOCKS server
     at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.readSocksReply(Unknown Source)
     at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
     at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
     at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
     at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
     at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient$3.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
     at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.privilegedOpenServer(Unknown Source)
     at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
     at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
     at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.createConnection(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
     at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
     ... 10 more
It appears that the applet never gets loaded. I have no idea why?
What is the Sun JVM doing here?
Many thanks in advance for any help.

Oh, one more thing. Here's the outpt of the VM log when I run the test above:
Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2_03
Using JRE version 1.4.2 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Documents and Settings\Michael
Proxy Configuration: No proxy
c: clear console window
f: finalize objects on finalization queue
g: garbage collect
h: display this help message
l: dump classloader list
m: print memory usage
o: trigger logging
p: reload proxy configuration
q: hide console
r: reload policy configuration
s: dump system properties
t: dump thread list
v: dump thread stack
x: clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to <n>
java.lang.NullPointerException
     at sun.plugin.cache.Cache.updateTable(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.cache.FileCache.getMatchingFile(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.cache.CachedFileLoader$2.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
     at sun.plugin.cache.CachedFileLoader.getCacheFile(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.cache.CachedFileLoader.load(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.cache.FileCache.get(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connectWithCache(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.net.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getHeaderField(Unknown Source)
     at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.getBytes(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source)
     at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source)
     at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source)
     at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
v

Switching from Microsoft JVM to sun JVM plugin. Problem w crystal reports

Hi,
I am currently in the process of switching off of the microsoft jvm to the sun plugin. I am using the reportviewerbean to view the reports. This works fine in the microsoft JVM, but I am getting a server not found error in the java JVM plugin. Here is the codes that is currently used:
bean = new ReportViewerBean();
if ( reportname.startsWith("/") )
java.net.URL url = this.getDocumentBase();
reportname = url.getProtocol() + "://" + url.getHost() + ":" + url.getPort() + reportname;
add((Component) bean);
((Component) bean).setBounds(0, 0, (int)this.getSize().width, (int)this.getSize().height);
bean.start();
bean.setBackground(Color.gray);
bean.setPromptOnRefresh(false);
bean.setHasGroupTree(false);
bean.setHasPrintButton(true);
//setZoomFactor(100);
bean.setZoomFactor(-2);
Log.debug("In report viewer: setting report parameters: "+reportparameters);
bean.setReportParameter(reportparameters);
* It's important to set the report name last. This tells the Crystal viewer to
* start the report. Otherwise you can get multiple URL requests for the same report.
Log.debug("In report viewer: setting reportname: "+reportname);
bean.setReportName(reportname);
Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong or what I need to do differently for the SUN environment
Thanks

Hi
I have started playing with this again my full msg is:
Crystal Report Viewer 1.3.7
java.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.version = 1.6.0_05
os.arch = x86
os.version = 5.1
File name = java_plugin1.epf
"java_plugin1.epf" does not exist.
No response from server.
URL = http://localhost:7001/cis/servlets/reports/mgnt/WorkflowDetailReport1.rpt?viewer=java&vfmt=encp&vgen=652&language=en
Parameters = viewer=java_plugin&cmd=get_pg&ttl_info=&page=1&incomplete_page=1&incomplete_page_count=1&pversion=3&promptOnRefresh=0
network: Connecting http://localhost:7001/cis/servlets/reports/mgnt/WorkflowDetailReport1.rpt?viewer=java&vfmt=encp&vgen=652&language=en with proxy=DIRECT
Failed to connect to server.
I have noticed that the viewer is set to equal java and not java_plugin. I am wondering if this is the problem. does anyone know how to change the viewer= ?
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I have the Sun JVM 1.3 and 1.4 installed on my computer.
IE is set to use the sun JVM (1.4) for the <APPLET> tag (in tool->Internet Options->Advanced).
How can I launch an applet using the Microsoft JVM ?
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Hi,
I am moving from a micrsoft JVM to the sun JVM. I am dealing with cookies. It appears that the microsoft JVM Wininet URL handler automatically handles cookies. Does Sun's do that for more current versions?
thany you,

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Is it possible to have both Sun and Microsoft JVM's on the same machine and direct individual applications to the JVM that they are designed to work with best?

If you're dealing with applications:
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Game runs fine in sun jvm, microsoft jvm causes 99% cpu usage and is SLOW

In the microsoft JVM (my target platform) I get 2 frames per second... in the sun JVM I get at least 60.
The strangest part, is that this only repros when iexplorer.exe is the only process running java anything... for example, if I have net beans running, I get 60 FPS in the microsoft JVM as well. That makes no sense to me.
I have tried thread.yeild and thread.sleep in my main loop, and that didn't fix anything.

In the microsoft JVM (my target platform) I get 2
frames per second... in the sun JVM I get at least
60. Don't use the MS JVM. I
The strangest part, is that this only repros when
iexplorer.exe is the only process running java
anything... for example, if I have net beans running,
I get 60 FPS in the microsoft JVM as well. That
makes no sense to me.
I have tried thread.yeild and thread.sleep in my main
loop, and that didn't fix anything.About these 2 methods.
sleep() // example in almost every book. Leaves
// Thead on the schedule list
yeild() // Pell mell as in no control of when it unyields.
// prone to race/deadlock UNLESS monitored by
// another thread that wakes up periodically.
Tony's "Theorized" <- make the uptight acedemic sycophants happy.
Law of the exec constant.
"Any Thread or process *that locks the system MUST yeild controls for at
least 20MS pre iteration."
Why 20MS? It gives the underlying OS a little slice and is enough
to ensure everything gets enough CPU. Every MS under 20 increases
the deadlock potential. (*If at zero wait you get a preempted deadlock)
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across CPU speeds / hardware/
Use a synchronized wait() in your main run method every iteration.
Objet waitObject();
synchronized(waitObject)
try
waitObject.wait(20);
catch(InterruptedException ie)
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This iwll give IE the CPU it needs and your CPU should dro
to around 1%.
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How to debug applet on Microsoft JVM

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Right now I have a Java applet application written by Visual J++ and running on Microsoft's JVM. OS is WinXP SP2 with IE 6.
I want to write an external application to get the data from applet when Text Field's value is changed and also want to simulate to click button, input text, and press keyboard to applets.
I can make it if the Java applet application is running on Sun's JVM. It is because Sun provides JVMDI (Java Virtual Machine Debug Interface) and JNI (Java Native Interface) to monitor and control applets in browser. We can configure Java Plug-in to inject a DLL into IE browser to get the Sun's JVM runtime environment and then use JNI to operate Java objects. I have written several external applications for Sun's JVM using JRE 1.4.2_xx. And they work well.
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Microsoft JVM!!!

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I had recently read at the microsoft claming long back
the VM created by them were the best for the window
environment.Is there any one who has used that and
found the difference in performance.I would appereciate
if someone from the sun let me know about there
evaluations(sure they must have done).
I believe there is the jvm created by the ibm,if it is
there how about its performance.
vickyk

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Website use Java but not support Microsoft JVM

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Thanks in advance!
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[email protected]

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Hi Ted,Thanks for the reply. But what I was interested in knowing was how many of the Eclipse-CR plugin jar files does CR require for a successful execution? Or do I have to import all 47 jar files? thanks

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