Support for LACP short timeouts on N5K

Anyone knowns if there is way to configure LACP timeout value. My customer is hitting a bug CSCta60232. Not sure if this bug has been fixed in recent version of NX-OS.
Also what is Cisco recommendation to form vPC. should customers use Active Active on both end of the vPC. If this is true then there might be many compatibility issues with different vendors.
N5K-1# sh lacp interface ex/y
Interface Ethernet1/4 is individual
Channel group is 4 port channel is Po4
PDUs sent: 395402
PDUs rcvd: 42817
Markers sent: 0
Markers rcvd: 0
Marker response sent: 0
Marker response rcvd: 0
Unknown packets rcvd: 44212
Illegal packets rcvd: 44212
Lag Id: [ [(0, 0-0-0-0-0-0, 0, 0, 0), (0, 0-0-0-0-0-0, 0, 0, 0)] ]
Operational as aggregated link since Fri Mar 26 14:22:15 2010
Local Port: Ethx/y    MAC Address= 0-d-ec-f2-c9-7c
System Identifier=0x8000,0-d-ec-f2-c9-7c
Port Identifier=0x8000,0x104
   Operational key=32772
   LACP_Activity=active
LACP_Timeout=Long Timeout (30s)
   Synchronization=IN_SYNC
   Collecting=true
   Distributing=true
Partner information refresh timeout=Short Timeout (3s)
Actor Admin State=(Ac-1:To-1:Ag-1:Sy-0:Co-0:Di-0:De-0:Ex-0)
Actor Oper State=(Ac-1:To-0:Ag-1:Sy-1:Co-1:Di-1:De-1:Ex-0)
Neighbor: 0/0
MAC Address= 0-0-0-0-0-0
System Identifier=0x0,0-0-0-0-0-0
Port Identifier=0x0,0x0
Operational key=0
   LACP_Activity=unknown
LACP_Timeout=short Timeout (1s) <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mismatch in parameters of LACP from Neighbor.
   Synchronization=NOT_IN_SYNC
   Collecting=false
   Distributing=false
Partner Admin State=(Ac-0:To-1:Ag-0:Sy-0:Co-0:Di-0:De-0:Ex-0)
Partner Oper State=(Ac-0:To-1:Ag-0:Sy-0:Co-0:Di-0:De-0:Ex-0)

Anyone knowns if there is way to
configure LACP timeout value. My cusotmer is hitting CSCta60232. Not
sure if this bug has been fixed in recent version of NX-OS.
Also
what is Cisco recommendation to form vPC. should cusotmer use Active
Active on both end of the vPC. If this is true then there might be many
compatibility issues with different vendors.
N5K-1# sh lacp interface ex/y
Interface Ethernet1/4 is individual
Channel group is 4 port channel is Po4
PDUs sent: 395402
PDUs rcvd: 42817
Markers sent: 0
Markers rcvd: 0
Marker response sent: 0
Marker response rcvd: 0
Unknown packets rcvd: 44212
Illegal packets rcvd: 44212
Lag Id: [ [(0, 0-0-0-0-0-0, 0, 0, 0), (0, 0-0-0-0-0-0, 0, 0, 0)] ]
Operational as aggregated link since Fri Mar 26 14:22:15 2010
Local Port: Ethx/y    MAC Address= 0-d-ec-f2-c9-7c
System Identifier=0x8000,0-d-ec-f2-c9-7c
Port Identifier=0x8000,0x104
   Operational key=32772
   LACP_Activity=active
LACP_Timeout=Long Timeout (30s)
   Synchronization=IN_SYNC
   Collecting=true
   Distributing=true
Partner information refresh timeout=Short Timeout (3s)
Actor Admin State=(Ac-1:To-1:Ag-1:Sy-0:Co-0:Di-0:De-0:Ex-0)
Actor Oper State=(Ac-1:To-0:Ag-1:Sy-1:Co-1:Di-1:De-1:Ex-0)
Neighbor: 0/0
MAC Address= 0-0-0-0-0-0
System Identifier=0x0,0-0-0-0-0-0
Port Identifier=0x0,0x0
Operational key=0
   LACP_Activity=unknown
LACP_Timeout=short Timeout (1s) <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mismatch in parameters of LACP from Neighbor.
   Synchronization=NOT_IN_SYNC
   Collecting=false
   Distributing=false
Partner Admin State=(Ac-0:To-1:Ag-0:Sy-0:Co-0:Di-0:De-0:Ex-0)
Partner Oper State=(Ac-0:To-1:Ag-0:Sy-0:Co-0:Di-0:De-0:Ex-0)
Hi ,
As per the bug detail in cisco sitestill now they have not realesed the fixed in version for this bug and short timeout cannot be configured in nexus 5k.
CSCta60232            Bug Details
Add configurable short timeout to Nexus 5000
Symptom:
The Nexus 5000 does not currently have support to request short timeout.
NOTE: The Nexus 5000 does move to a short timeout when the partner timeout is short. This is because the partner dictates the timeout for the actor. The N5k cannot get the partner to reciprocate due to it not being able to be configured for short timeout.
Workaround:
The channel should still form, but each side is using different timeouts. Whichever timeout is lost first will trigger the channel to re-initialization.
It is recommended to use long-timers on both sides until 4.2(1)N1(1)
Further Problem Description:
To identify the partner timeout:
sho lacp interface eth X/Y
Neighbor: 0/0
MAC Address= 0-0-0-0-0-0
System Identifier=0x0,0-0-0-0-0-0
Port Identifier=0x0,0x0
Operational key=0
LACP_Activity=unknown
LACP_Timeout=short Timeout (1s)<<<
Synchronization=NOT_IN_SYNC
Collecting=false
Distributing=false
Status
Fixed
(Resolved)
Severity
3 - moderate
Last Modified
In Last 3 Days
Product
Cisco Nexus 5000 Series Switches
Technology
1st Found-In
4.1(3)N1(0.164)
Fixed-In
Release-Pending
Component(s)
lacp
Hope to Help !!
Ganesh.H
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It's not clear to me on what information you were expecting from them. Did you, however, check the status of the coverage here to see if perhaps the coverage was registered correctly?
https://selfsolve.apple.com/agreementWarrantyDynamic.do
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Seriously. Though I think you misread. The option is available for you to set up a time when they can call _you. Or you can just elect to call later. It's your choice which you select.
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See number 1.
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I can live without the page breaks, but I need colspan. I need to do this for hundreds of tables, so opening the Acrobat Table Editor and fixing the colspan by hand is not an option. A scripting/programming solution is required. Has anyone found a workaround? Does Acrobat X fix this problem?

hello
not trying to hijack the thread but needed some clarification
your very short tutorial
http://alt-web.blogspot.com/2012/11/primer-for-using-jquery-plug-ins.h tml
was really informative. Just have a couple quick questions:
you state:
"the core code library which you ref in your <head> tags,"
the below code just has to be declared ONCE at the beging in your head section, correct?

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://code.jquery.com/jquery-latest.min.js">
</script>
then any number of jquery plugin scripts can be placed in ANY order in your head section following the above code, correct?
"the function code inside <script> tags to invoke the plug-in."
so then in the body, does the functions code have to come RIGHT AFTER the place it is being used?
example
<body>
<div class="slideshow1"
</div>

<script type="text/javascript">
</script>
<div class="slideshow2"
</div>

<script type="text/javascript">
</script>
</body>
or can you take all the function codes and paste them in the end outside of the respective divs that are using the code?
ie does the position of the code matter?\
thanks guys
Nancy O. wrote:
Try jQuery Fancybox
http://fancybox.net/
If you're new to using jQuery plugins, see this primer:
http://alt-web.blogspot.com/2012/11/primer-for-using-jquery-plug-ins.h tml
Nancy O.

Support for Old Vibrating Sample Magnetometers

Hello.
I am a relative newcomer to LabView and I am trying to get some support for a few older Vibrating Sample Magnetometers (VSM) on behalf of my employer. These machines are quite old and, although they have GPIB connectivity, I am having difficulty in being able to control them using LabView. Although they use the IEEE-488 GPIB standard, they were built before the introduction of the Standard Commands for Programmable Instruments (SCPI), rather than the newer 488.2 standard. As such, they work with their own proprietary commands, which are proving impossible to find. I have a working LabView program that was written by a university student for a master's degree in physics. However, I cannot communicate with the individual components, such as the gaussmeter, power supply, etc, using measurement and automation explorer. They don't even respond to an "*IDN?" query without timing out, which I thought was standard. I have tried lengthening the timeout time and tried to use drivers for similar instruments. My question to anyone out there is, do you have the drivers or the programming manual for any of the components listed below? The Vibrating Sample Magnetometers were built by the now defunct DMS/ADE. The current owners of DMS/ADE can offer little support for such old equipment. Likewise, is there something else I can try in lieu of these drivers and commands?
Devices: 1.) DMS Model 1660 VSM, 2.) DMS/ADE VSM Model 4, which includes the DMS/ADE model 32KP gaussmeter with its own GPIB port.
Thank you for your time,
Liam

Hi Liam,
As per GPIB 488.2, as I already mentioned, the ibEOSchar under Ibconfig is an 8 bit value so it will take value from 0 to 255 for which 3 number width is sufficient. Measurement and Automation Explorer also works in the same way. EOS byte value under Termination Settings section of GPIB settings accepts a decimal number from 0 to 255 and it will not allow any character and also value more than 255 as its field is limited to 3 numbers and even if you enter a value more than 255, it will be automatically changes to 255.
So, As per 488.2, You cannot give both carriage return and linefeed characters together and you cannot use the same in MAX also.
Try framing your entire command with EOS as per built in LabVIEW carriage return and linefeed functions and use GPIB Write.vi to send this entire frame. It may work.
Also, I would like to see your VSM's communication manual and understand how these commands have been implemented.
Coming to IBEOS command, its easily understandable and its used to Configure the end-of-string (EOS) termination mode or character. It have low byte and high byte.
Low byte is always an 8 bit EOS character and high byte can take three forms which are A, B and C. Also High byte can have values with combination of A,B or C.
For Example, ibeos (ud, 0x140A); means, Configure the software to end reads on newline character (hex 0A) for the unit descriptor. Here high byte is a combination of A and C where as low byte is the HEX equivalent of ASCII Line feed character.
Regards,
Naresh Narra

AirPort Extreme bast station 4 support for PB G4 power pc??

I am in the market for a wireless network. I've read that Apple is hard at work on AEX4 with MIMO technology. I don't mind waiting, but wonder if I even should since I also read that Apple has been quietly integrating support for pre-n on new macbooks, which lead me to believe that a power pc with an Airport extreme wireless card won't support pre-n rates anyway. If true then I'd be well enough to invest in 802.11g. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
Jeff

Perhaps an inexpensive usb wireless adapter would work as well?
This is probably the simplest way to get the G3 connected to the wireless network.
I'll have to read up on getting an express and using it as a wireless bridge as I am unfamiliar with the concept.
The new AirPort Extreme is broadcasting a wireless signal.
A new AirPort Express could be located close to the G3. The Express will pick up the wireless signal from the AirPort Extreme, then provide an Ethernet connection to the G3 though a short Ethernet cable.
This can work very well......IF.....you keep the G3 at a fixed location, since it will always be connected to the AriPort Express using an Ethernet cable.
I do have an old Linksys Wireless G router. I wonder if that would work?
In theory, yes. But it would have to use much older WEP "security", which is easily cracked in minutes using free tools available on the Internet. So, anyone who really wanted to get on the network could do so. It's an option, but not a very good one.

External Disply flickers and went Black for a short duration after yosemite update 10.10.2

hi,
i got a mac book pro late 2008 and since todays update my external monitor flickers and went black for a short duration.
It seems that it happens, when i start a new app or i move a window across the displays.
Disabling the automated scaling of the resolution reduced the flickering but it still happens.
Does anyone faces the same problems and have an idea how to fix it?
I would appreciate it.
Sincerely
Lukas

Hello lukasfromholzwickede,
Thanks for participating in the Apple Support Communities.
It sounds like you've noticed flickering on your external display after updating OS X Yosemite.
I'd recommend starting with these resets to troubleshoot the situation:
You can reset the Mac's parameter RAM and SMC.
You can find these steps in this article:
Apple computers: Troubleshooting issues with video on internal or external displays - Apple Support
If the behavior continues, try going through the steps in the "Update your software and firmware" and "No video or no signal, image distortion, 'snow,' or flickering" sections of this article, as well.
All the best,
Jeremy

Nokia 5800 - No Support for TV out-mode?

I just recently realised that that is true for my set... That there is no support for TV out-mode... I've tried, audio comes out from my TV speakers but there is no visual. Is there anything at all that I can do to utilise this feature? I have after all been supplied with the wires and all...

The Whole Story As Below, Anyone Can Help?
[THREAD ID:1-3T7CFIN]
SR 1-8296203408
Dear Mr. Xh,
Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.
In response to your email, your concern has been noted. We know that our supplier is doing everything in their power to remedy the situation. We suggest to check with your dealer if they have a policy regarding exchanges. We do apologize for the inconvenience caused.
You may like to visit our website at www.nokia.com.my for more information and support for your Nokia device. If you have further enquiries, please write to us again or contact Nokia Careline at 1300 881600. We operate between the hours of 8.00am and 8.00pm, seven days a week.
Kind regards,
Ana V.
Nokia Careline
Do you know you can now update your phone software at your own convenience? Visit www.nokia.com.my/support to check if your phone model is supported and download the "Nokia Software Updater".
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: 03/10/2009 11:02:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Nokia -Nokia 5800 Xpress Music - Tv- Out Inquiry
Dear Nokia Careline,
The "No Return Policy" already be used here. Seem that I have no choice to go for other alternatives. Maybe I have to file the case to our local authority i.e. Tribunal Court Claim to exercise my consumer right here.
Perhaps, further blogs at Nokia discussion column, facebook, twitter might help to let others understand more about so-called Nokia Careline entertain their loyal customer.
If you insist your stand there, then I am always ready to go for my alternatives.
I won't let go unless you could satisfy me.
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Nokia - Nokia 5800 Xpress Music - Tv- Out Inquiry
To:
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 3:39 AM
Reference No.: SR# 1-8296203408
Dear Mr. X,
We appreciate your prompt reply.
We will be noting for concern as a feedback. However, please be informed Mr. Tan that Nokia has noted in the box regarding the said case.
The outage experienced by our sub-supplier was quite unexpected. Typically, the lead time for components such as this one is fairly long, and one cannot react to sudden changes at short notice. We value our relationship with our suppliers and sub-suppliers, and know that our sub-supplier is doing everything in their power to remedy the situation and return to regular supply.
The lack of TV out should not affect any other device functionalities besides that you will not be able to show/transmit pictures or video to external monitor/screen.
As Nokia does not have a replacement policy, we suggest to check with your dealer if they have a policy regarding exchanges.
Apologies for any inconvenience.
You may like to visit our website at www.nokia.com.my for more information and support for your Nokia device. If you have further enquiries, please write to us again or contact Nokia Careline at 1300 881600. We operate between the hours of 8.00am and 8.00pm, seven days a week.
Kind regards,
Nicky E.
Nokia Careline
Do you know you can now update your phone software at your own convenience? Visit www.nokia.com.my/support to check if your phone model is supported and download the "Nokia Software Updater".
[THREAD ID:1-3T7CFIN]
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: 30/09/2009 10:32:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Nokia - Nokia 5800 Xpress Music - Tv- Out Inquiry
Dear NOKIA CARELINE,
Yap, you can tell me leaflet included & a tiny label on the pack box. But who will really check every single area of the pack box & read the whole manual or leaflet when they decided to buy the phone. What normally customer will check is the handphone and the accessories. Now you are telling me that customer have to check everything even they buy something from a reputable company like Nokia. If I going in a shop that sell a China like Nokia 5800 handphone and I bought it then I won't have a say here at all.
I have checked with my retailer they allow me to return the unit but I can't get full refund from them. They are going deduct a couple of hundred cause they said the unit is considered used unit now. According to them instead of asking customer to wait they prefer to refund the customer. So who is going to bear for the cost now.
I certainly frustrated by getting a unit that without TV out function. If you are telling me that once manufactured the feature could not be added in, then I would say if you do have a unit with TV-out feature now you could exchange directly to your customer. Why still ask your loyal customer like me to refer to dealer or retailer. Is that what you mean after sales service or NOKIA CARELINE. You don't even care in the first place.
Your apologies certainly couldn't be accepted with reason of Nokia did include leaflet to inform and tiny sticker at the bottom of the pack box. Sound irresponsible to me at all.
What I wanna your care now, that is pls exchange a unit with TV-out feature with mine in which without such feature. Do I really put the CARELINE into difficulty position. Your reply to me is highly appreciated and also to show that you care or don't care.
Regards,
XX
--- On Wed, 9/30/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Nokia - Nokia 5800 Xpress Music - Tv- Out Inquiry
To:
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:14 AM
Reference No.: SR# 1-8296203408
Dear Mr. X,
Thank you for emailing Nokia Careline.
Greetings!
In response to your inquiry, please be informed Mr. Tan that due to a component shortage, a limited number of Nokia 5800 Xpress Music has been manufactured without the TV-out functionality. It is possible that you have one of these devices. In that case, the sales package should have a sticker on the package and a leaflet inside the package that inform about the lack of TV-out functionality. Also, the TV-out cable has been removed from the affected sales packages.
Kindly take note Mr. Tan that it is not possible to add the feature after the device has been manufactured. Therefore we have labeled the affected sales packages with a sticker and included a leflet that inform about the lack of TV-out functionality. Those individuals who wish to have the TV-out functionality should wait for a sales package that that has it again.
The new batch of phones should have the feature back. As this matter is clearly stated in the sales package, it is not possible to return to Nokia. However, you may check with your dealer if they have a policy regarding the return of the unit in exchange for a version that has the TV-out feature. Those individuals who wish to have the TV-out functionality should wait for a sales package that that has it again.
Apologies for any inconvenience.
You may like to visit our website at www.nokia.com.my for more information and support for your Nokia device. If you have further enquiries, please write to us again or contact Nokia Careline at 1300 881600. We operate between the hours of 8.00am and 8.00pm, seven days a week.
Kind regards,
Nicky E.
Nokia Careline
Do you know you can now update your phone software at your own convenience? Visit www.nokia.com.my/support to check if your phone model is supported and download the "Nokia Software Updater".
[THREAD ID:1-3T7CFIN]
-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: 30/09/2009 09:04:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: WebForm Automated Email
[Message:I bought a unit of Nokia 5800 last week for my wife. I discovered that the unit I bought is without TV support because when I tried to connect the TV cable that I bought. I tried to check the manual & pack box then only noticed a small label on the pack box stated no TV out supported. The retailer informed me that they only aware about this when I complained to them. I checked the discussion blogs, some stated because of worldwide component shortage so such function being omitted. I can't accept such explanation because I feel like I was being cheated by Nokia. Am I buying a pirated product now. Oh come on, how could Nokia so irresponsible to deliver the product with imcomplete function since TV out in general or ealier batch was included. Could you imagine if next time the product is delivered without GPS function, camera support, wifi & etc. by giving excuses of worldwide component shortage. What's the different buying a China Imitaion Product
now. I certainly wanna to return my unit if such function was omitted. Please reply your loyal customer ASAP.]

Support for Array Binding and PL/SQL tables (IN, INOUT, or OUT)

I have attempted, unsuccessfully, to use array binding in stored procedure/function calls where the sp/sf has parameters that are PL/SQL tables. I have seen the topic floating around in this forum, but I have not seen the explicit questions:
- Does ODP.NET support PL/SQL tables as IN, INOUT or OUT parameters to stored procedures/functions?
- Will any planned ODP.NET release support PL/SQL tables as IN, INOUT or OUT parameters to stored procedures/functions?
I am aware that I can use REF CURSORS to handle the OUT situation, but I need to make a design decision concerning supporting parameters of IN and INOUT PL/SQL tables.
Thanks.
James

You really MUST do this!! - i.e. include support for PL/SQL table parameters (IN INOUT and OUT) in a future release of ODP.NET.
PL/SQL tables are a fundamental type in Oracle stored procedures and you will be preventing a huge number of existing projects from migrating to .NET if you don't acknowledge them as part and parcel of Oracle programming.
I sincerely hope support for PL/SQL table parameters is treated as a serious issue.
Think what a coup it would be for you over Microsoft (who don't currently support PL/SQL tables with their .NET native provider for Oracle and don't look as if they will at least in the short term)!
Please, please, please!

Support for LACP short timeouts on N5K

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