SWU3 GP related steps

Hi experts,
I noticed that in SWU3 : Automatic workflow customizing, there are steps related with GP, i dont know how to fill the first one : maintain GP gateway, the documentation is hard to understand , could you pls give me some hints how to fill out the following fields:
RFC Destination
Gateway host name
TCP service Path name
also i want to know what those parameters are for? what will happen if i dont maintain them.
thanks and best regard.
zj

Hi Jun,
You do not need to care about this if you are running with the standard configuration. This is only used when GP is running on the Business Workflow. These parameters are used to enable the communication between GP on the Java Stack and the BWF on the ABAP Stack.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
David

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Figure 7                Transaction Recording Overview with screen field attributes
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Figure 9                Source fields of source Structure
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