Syslog traps vs SNMP traps

Concerning the Syslog logging and SNMP traps, what is the difference.
I have seen that syslog is more for troubleshooting, but does syslog, when set to log "debugging", offer the same level of information that SNMP traps do?
For example, can you get real time config changes via syslog as you can with SNMP?
If so, why use both?

syslog will send whatever you can see on the CLI of the device at a maximum of a debug level as you say.
for SNMP traps related to configuration changes, you can use the mibs depending on the events you want to know about.
If we take for example the config traps, they are part of
CISCO-CONFIG-MAN-MIB. That mib can send traps with the following OIDs:
ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/mibs/oid/CISCO-CONFIG-MAN-MIB.oid
When you will go through that you will realize that the CONFIG mib and the syslog provide you with the same information: the CONFIG mib will not have more information than the syslog message.
If you use the snmp object navigator, you will find for every OID what the function is:
http://tools.cisco.com/Support/SNMP/do/BrowseOID.do?local=en
A good paper about what traps are part of which mib:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094a05.shtml
SNMP traps are a good way to gather information from the router without spiking the cpu with turning on CLI debug level. The CLI debug level is usually the most complete information you can get from a router anyways.

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    mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}
    ip sla monitor 2
    type echo protocol ipIcmpEcho 150.1.3.3 source-ipaddr 1.1.98.7
    frequency 10!
    ip sla monitor schedule 2 start-time now recurring
    /* Style Definitions */
    table.MsoNormalTable
    {mso-style-name:"Table Normal";
    mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;
    mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
    mso-style-noshow:yes;
    mso-style-parent:"";
    mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;
    mso-para-margin:0cm;
    mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;
    mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
    font-size:12.0pt;
    font-family:"Times New Roman";
    mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria;
    mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;
    mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
    mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
    mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria;
    mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}
    ip sla reaction-configuration 2 react rtt threshold-type immediate action-type trapOnly  
    ip sla logging traps
    /* Style Definitions */
    table.MsoNormalTable
    {mso-style-name:"Table Normal";
    mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;
    mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
    mso-style-noshow:yes;
    mso-style-parent:"";
    mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;
    mso-para-margin:0cm;
    mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;
    mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
    font-size:12.0pt;
    font-family:"Times New Roman";
    mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria;
    mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;
    mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
    mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;
    mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria;
    mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;}
    snmp-server community public RO
    snmp-server enable traps rtr
    snmp-server host 1.1.128.226 public
    1.1.98.7 is the loopback ip on my network. To test the snmp traps, i enabled debug snmp packets and shutdown loopback interface (1.1.98.7)
    I don't see any snmp message in debug output ..
    am i missing something or it is not possible to get traps directly from ip sla .. do i need EEM for this?

    sorry, it actually worked .. i just gave a restart to ip sla and it worked.
    looks like router was already in threshold stage when i was activating reaction-config ..
    but i am still confused which command is actualluy generating these traps since i have taken out some of the snmp config out and i stil get traps ..
    below is the oputput of traps which i get when i restart ip sla .
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.453: SNMP: 150.150.1.1 queue overflow, dropping packet
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.453: SNMP: Queuing packet to 150.150.1.1
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.453: SNMP: V1 Trap, ent rttMonNotificationsPrefix, addr 65.65.2.2, gentrap 6, spectrap 3
    rttMonCtrlAdminTag.1 = 
    rttMonHistoryCollectionAddress.1 = 41 41  03 03   
    rttMonCtrlOperOverThresholdOccurred.1 = 1
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.497: SNMP: 150.150.1.1 queue overflow, dropping packet
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.501: SNMP: Queuing packet to 150.150.1.1
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.501: SNMP: V1 Trap, ent rttMonNotificationsPrefix, addr 65.65.2.2, gentrap 6, spectrap 5
    rttMonCtrlAdminTag.1 = 
    rttMonHistoryCollectionAddress.1 = 41 41  03 03   
    rttMonReactVar.1 = 1
    rttMonReactOccurred.1 = 1
    rttMonReactValue.1 = 12
    rttMonReactThresholdRising.1 = 5
    rttMonReactThresholdFalling.1 = 1
    rttMonEchoAdminLSPSelector.1 = 00 00  00 00  
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.585: SNMP: 150.150.1.1 queue overflow, dropping packet
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.585: SNMP: Queuing packet to 150.150.1.1
    *Feb 15 17:10:43.585: SNMP: V1 Trap, ent rttMonNotificationsPrefix, addr 65.65.2.2, gentrap 6, spectrap 5
    rttMonCtrlAdminTag.1 = 
    rttMonHistoryCollectionAddress.1 = 41 41  03 03   
    rttMonReactVar.1 = 1
    rttMonReactOccurred.1 = 1
    rttMonReactValue.1 = 12
    rttMonReactThresholdRising.1 = 5
    rttMonReactThresholdFalling.1 = 1
    rttMonEchoAdminLSPSelector.1 = 00 00  00 00 
    below is my running config and sh ver
    R2#sh ver
    Cisco IOS Software, 2800 Software (C2800NM-ADVENTERPRISEK9-M), Version 12.4(24)T1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc3)
    Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
    Copyright (c) 1986-2009 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
    Compiled Fri 19-Jun-09 15:13 by prod_rel_team
    ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.4(1r) [hqluong 1r], RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
    R2 uptime is 8 hours, 9 minutes
    System returned to ROM by power-on
    System image file is "flash:c2800nm-adventerprisek9-mz.124-24.T1.bin"
    This product contains cryptographic features and is subject to United
    States and local country laws governing import, export, transfer and
    use. Delivery of Cisco cryptographic products does not imply
    third-party authority to import, export, distribute or use encryption.
    Importers, exporters, distributors and users are responsible for
    compliance with U.S. and local country laws. By using this product you
    agree to comply with applicable laws and regulations. If you are unable
    to comply with U.S. and local laws, return this product immediately.
    A summary of U.S. laws governing Cisco cryptographic products may be found at:
    http://www.cisco.com/wwl/export/crypto/tool/stqrg.html
    If you require further assistance please contact us by sending email to
    [email protected].
    Cisco 2811 (revision 53.50) with 237568K/24576K bytes of memory.
    Processor board ID FTX0952C333
    2 FastEthernet interfaces
    4 Serial(sync/async) interfaces
    1 Virtual Private Network (VPN) Module
    DRAM configuration is 64 bits wide with parity enabled.
    239K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
    62720K bytes of ATA CompactFlash (Read/Write)
    Configuration register is 0x2102
    R2#            
    R2#sh run
    Building configuration...
    Current configuration : 2233 bytes
    version 12.4
    service timestamps debug datetime msec
    service timestamps log datetime msec
    no service password-encryption
    hostname R2
    boot-start-marker
    boot-end-marker
    no aaa new-model
    memory-size iomem 10
    dot11 syslog
    ip source-route
    ip cef
    ipv6 unicast-routing
    ipv6 cef
    multilink bundle-name authenticated
    voice-card 0
    vtp domain 29
    vtp mode transparent
    archive
    log config
      hidekeys
    interface Loopback0
    ip address 65.65.2.2 255.255.255.0
    interface FastEthernet0/0
    shutdown
    duplex auto
    speed auto
    interface FastEthernet0/1
    ip address 65.65.128.193 255.255.255.224
    shutdown
    duplex auto
    speed auto
    interface Serial0/2/0
    ip address 65.65.13.2 255.255.255.224
    encapsulation ppp
    clock rate 2000000
    interface Serial0/3/0
    no ip address
    shutdown
    router ospf 65
    router-id 65.65.2.2
    log-adjacency-changes
    network 65.65.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 1
    network 65.65.13.2 0.0.0.0 area 1
    network 65.65.128.193 0.0.0.0 area 1
    ip forward-protocol nd
    no ip http server
    no ip http secure-server
    ip sla 1
    icmp-echo 65.65.3.3 source-ip 65.65.2.2
    request-data-size 1500
    frequency 10
    ip sla schedule 1 life forever start-time now
    ip sla reaction-configuration 1 react rtt threshold-value 5 1 threshold-type immediate action-type trapOnly
    snmp-server community public RO
    snmp-server host 150.150.1.1 public
    control-plane
    mgcp fax t38 ecm
    mgcp behavior g729-variants static-pt
    line con 0
    line aux 0
    line vty 0 4
    login
    scheduler allocate 20000 1000
    end
    R2#                                 
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