System Backup with database open

Is is possible to perform a system backup with the database opened, just left the f:\Oracle folder out of the system backup?

Thanks for your replay.
The database it's in noarchivelog mode.
My customer wants to:
1) export the database;
2) perform a system backup with the database open;
The issue here is if it is possible to backup the system without disturbing the database functionality. Because if we do a system backup with the database opened, the database will stop.
So if I just left the f:\Oracle folder out of the system backup, will the database continue on working well?
We have already tried to left the folders
- F:\Oracle\Oradata\db_name
- F:\Oracle\Ora10g\dbs
- F:\Oracle\Ora10g\database
Out of the system backup, but the database always stop and it is necessary human intervention to start it up again.

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    Drag and drop will normally work if the separate hard drive is formatted right:
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  • Oracle Database Point intime recovery with File System backup.

    Hi.. Experts...
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    available in archive directory till now.
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    Requirement.
    We want to recover the database till  yesterday 3.30 PM.
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    Regards

    Experts.....Nick Loy, Varadharajan M, Mark & Volker.............Thanks U Very Much.
    TAIL END MESSAGE OF RECOVERY COMMAND
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    thread 1
    ORA-00289: suggestion : /oracle/D10/oraarch/D10arch1_123487_607825009.dbf
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    ORA-00278: log file '/oracle/D10/oraarch/D10arch1_123486_607825009.dbf' no
    longer needed for this recovery
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    SQL>
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    T H A N K S    --   T O    --   E V E R Y O N E .
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  • No backup loss of non system datafile how to open database

    Hi
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    Hi,
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    To open the database you can follow the step described by chinar sir. For backup follow one strategy as a good practise.Check my below link for backup strategy:
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    Best regards,
    Rafi.
    http://rafioracledba.blogspot.com

  • Rman backup with  standby database

    Hi All,
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    RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
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    Recovery Manager: Release 11.2.0.1.0
    Oracle databaes  Release 11.2.0.1.0 64 bit
    OS:RHEL 6 x86-64 bit
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    I scanned thru MOS but could find solutions for rman with active DG.
    Thanks in advance

    726d07e6-b870-431f-8c22-a499c3ec4e0c wrote:
    Hi All,
    I am looking for some suggestions for rman backup with standby  database with datagaurd but no active DG. I wanted to do a rman tablespace backup. but I am stuck at  sql 'alter system archive log current' in rman  with standby as target. which gives following errors  with or without noswitch clause
    RMAN> sql 'alter system archive log current noswitch';
    sql statement: alter system archive log current noswitch
    RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
    RMAN-00569: =============== ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS ===============
    RMAN-00571: ===========================================================
    RMAN-03009: failure of sql command on default channel at 10/05/2013 18:15:12
    RMAN-11003: failure during parse/execution of SQL statement: alter system archive log current noswitch
    ORA-01109: database not open
    Recovery Manager: Release 11.2.0.1.0
    Oracle databaes  Release 11.2.0.1.0 64 bit
    OS:RHEL 6 x86-64 bit
    Secondly, do I need to cancel manged recovery while taking rman backups on standby.
    I scanned thru MOS but could find solutions for rman with active DG.
    Thanks in advance
    "I scanned thru MOS but could find solutions for rman with active DG."
    Howto make a consistent RMAN backup in an Standby database in Active DataGuard mode (Doc ID 1419923.1)

  • Renaming datafiles in control files with database mounted but not open

    Hi,
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    Thanks,
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      2  union
      3  select member from v$logfile
      4  union
      5  select file_name from dba_temp_files
      6  union
      7  select name from v$controlfile;
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    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\CONTROL01.CTL
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\CONTROL02.CTL
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\CONTROL03.CTL
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\EXAMPLE01.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\REDO01.LOG
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\REDO02.LOG
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\REDO03.LOG
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\SYSAUX01.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\SYSTEM\SYSTEM01.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\TBS102_1.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\TBS102_2.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\TEMP01.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\UNDOTBS01.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\USERS01.DBF
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    Total System Global Area  272629760 bytes
    Fixed Size                  1288940 bytes
    Variable Size             163579156 bytes
    Database Buffers          100663296 bytes
    Redo Buffers                7098368 bytes
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    Database altered.
    SYS@DEMO102> alter database rename file 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\SYSTEM\SYSTEM01.DBF' to 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\demo102\SYSTEM\SYSTEM01.DBF';
    Database altered.
    SYS@DEMO102> alter database rename file 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\EXAMPLE01.DBF' to 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\demo102\EXAMPLE01.DBF';
    Database altered.
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    Database altered.
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    Database altered.
    SYS@DEMO102> alter database rename file 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\REDO02.LOG' to 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\demo102\REDO02.LOG';
    Database altered.
    SYS@DEMO102> alter database rename file 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\REDO03.LOG' to 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\demo102\REDO03.LOG';
    Database altered.
    SYS@DEMO102> alter database rename file 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102C\TEMP01.DBF' to 'E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\demo102\TEMP01.DBF';
    Database altered.
    SYS@DEMO102> alter database open;
    Database altered.
    SYS@DEMO102> create spfile from pfile='E:\oracle\admin\DEMO102\pfile\pfile102.ora';
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    SYS@DEMO102> shutdown immediate
    Database closed.
    Database dismounted.
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    SYS@DEMO102> startup
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    Total System Global Area  272629760 bytes
    Fixed Size                  1288940 bytes
    Variable Size             163579156 bytes
    Database Buffers          100663296 bytes
    Redo Buffers                7098368 bytes
    Database mounted.
    Database opened.
    SYS@DEMO102> select file_name from dba_data_files
      2  union
      3  select member from v$logfile
      4  union
      5  select file_name from dba_temp_files
      6  union
      7  select name from v$controlfile;
    FILE_NAME
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    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\CONTROL02.CTL
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\CONTROL03.CTL
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\EXAMPLE01.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\REDO01.LOG
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\REDO02.LOG
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\REDO03.LOG
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    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\TBS102_2.DBF
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    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\UNDOTBS01.DBF
    E:\ORACLE\ORADATA\DEMO102\USERS01.DBF
    14 rows selected.
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  • Time Machine will not complete a system backup and terminates with "Unable to complete backup. An error occurred while copying files to the backup volume.  This follows a problem when Time machne terminated when the volume was almost full.

    On 11/1/2011, Time Machine (TM) terminated with an error message I did not record.  I noted that the drive was full and decided to do a separate complete bootable  system backup using Carbon Copy Clone (CCC), before clearing the TM volume and trying to start it over clean.  Part way through the full system backup CCC put up a message that there was a Physical Problem  "Library/Application Support/Techtool Protection/McIntosh HD/Directory Backup 2011-11-01-16-28-16".  That was about the time that TM malfunctioned, so I assumed they were related.  After starting CCC over a couple of times, and getting the same error message, I let it go through to completion of the backup, which took three or four hours.  I then ran tests using Disk Utility and verified that there was nothing physically wrong with both the internal hard drive and the TM volume.  I also erased and reformatted the TM volume.  However, every time I started Time Machine, it would record a few GB and terminate with "Unable to complete backup. An error occurred while copying files to the backup volume".  I restarted the computer with no change in results.  Note that prior to starting the CCC backup, I "Repaired Permissions", "zapped the PRAM" and "re-set the SMC", hoping to have a clean bootable system on the backup.  I ran Techtool and no problems were found.
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    jcm21 wrote:
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