T8x 3 problems

1. I can not install the driver properly. I use the original cd, but it is said that it is not match the signiture with windows XP. Then I download from MSI, got the same result. At present, I am using the latest one, neglecting this problem.
2. When I play some games, the computer restarted suddenly. When I use Fuzzy Logic 4 to overlock, it restart immediately when a graphic window coming out.
3. The words on the desk and toolbar always shake (bouncing) when I enter the windows. I have to change the frequency( 60hz-70hz, or -72hz,..higher) to solve it.
Could you please give me some suggestion.

Please post your computer's specification.

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KM2M and MX440-T8X (problem with AGP)

Hi every one,
I'm new to the forum... from Chile.
I recently bought a KM2M motherboard and I read in the User's Manual that the AGP port goes from 2X to 4X... BUT... if you connect to it a 8X video card with correct drivers, it would run at 8X (KM2M Quick User's Guide pg. 3-14).
So, I bought a MX440-T8X (MSI 8935)... but the AGP port runs only at 4X!!!!
I installed all the drivers properly and updated them at MSI homepage.
What else can I do??? Has anyone suffer the same problem???
Thanks in advance !!!
Greetings.

i dout you will not get any were
i bet you
if they had 8x agp on the box or website you might
any way as im finding you will have to argue with the dealer first
least ways thats how it is were i live
as your contracts with him
also i just read the manual
your wasting my time
page 2.25 is quite clear agpx4
as is summary page 1.2
the onboard vga is called a savage 8
thats all i can see re 8
but thats nothing to do with the vga slot

MX440-T8X Problems: My Experience

I just upgraded my oldest computer with a new MSI motherboard and this video card. It seemed to work fine at first, when I put it on a recent monitor at work. When I took it home, though, and hooked it to my crummy old Packard Bell monitor...it flipped out, crashed the computer and it rebooted.
This will hopefully help some people who've had trouble.
Some tech stuff...the motherboard is an MSI K7LV (I think...it isn't in front of me right now). 256 megs of memory, Athlon 2200 1.6 gHz processor. I took the precaution of putting a tiny fan on the VGA chip next to the motherboard, since I'd heard the board has a heat problem. (The side of the case has a 120-volt AC cooling fan mounted on it, a legacy of the PC Chips board I previously had in it.) This is not a system for "stunting," just something run very conservatively, no overclocking or nonsense like that.
The crash in Windows XP Pro indicated that the video card was the probable cause. Among the weirder symptoms; in Safe Mode, the video had leftover pixels scattering across the screen whenever the mouse was moved, and the pixels were blocky with nearly unreadable text.
I went to the BIOS screen of the motherboard and reduced the VGA memory aperture to 32 megabytes. Still no preventing the crash. I made sure the memory was running at the proper speed, not trusting the "auto" setting. Still crashed.
I decided to upgrade to the newest available drivers for both motherboard and card. I eventually got through to the web site (which was being upgraded...great timing on my part). Thank God for my Macintosh! I also downloaded the latest Live Update utility.
Windows would not upgrade the drivers from the downloaded files in the normal fashion, so I tried Live Update. It took forever to get Live Update to work on my rebuilt system. The video card kept crashing. It took about twenty restart cycles before I got it all done. But I managed to redo the BIOS and Drivers for the video card, and the motherboard's VGA drivers as well, via Live Update.
After doing all that - surprise! Everything has worked fine. The machine has operated 24 hours straight with no problems. Again, I haven't "really" stressed the system by running 3D games or anything. And it looks like the old Packard Bell monitor can't do high-res, so that may get changed out sometime. But the system is working.
The moral for you folks: First, upgrade the BIOS and drivers of the video card to the latest available. If your system crashes before the download and installation takes place, try to run it conservatively; reduce the clock speed of the memory and run in low-resolution to see if that keeps the system working for the download to occur.
This isn't a cure-all. However, if you've done everything else right, and you're still getting crashes, try this before you take a sledgehammer to the whole works. Who knows? It might work.

I'm beginning to agree with m'learned colleague Kingfisher about eBuyer. In fact, I sent the tale of my woes to Mike Magee at the Inquirer, and since he published it there have been hordes of others agreeing with me.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14037
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14098
What a shame - they're very cheap, but without customer service I think I'll just have to use someone who gives a damn in future, even if it's a little more expensive.
I did get the latest drivers from the nVidia site, and it seems to have fixed things - but why would MSI ship a card with blatantly defective drivers? It's not like it's a cutting-edge product or anything. (Okay, I'm just toying with the smilies now, sorry).
Still seems very slow in booting, and a bit twitchy overall - I've built other similar systems and with a clean 98SE install it should do the basics (at least startup and shutdown) like greased cow dung off a teflon shovel. I wonder if the mobo's sick... but hey, that's an Asus, so not something to be discussed here!

Freakish MX440 T8X problems

Okay chaps, maybe one of you can give me some clues here...
I bought two of these cards from eBuyer, and built two PCs using them. The only difference was the first one had Win XP, the second had 98SE... and didn't work properly!
Now, I know I'm a luddite using 98SE, but please bear with me. The symptoms were as follows: no reporting of card pre-POST (seemed pretty weird to start with), then when I installed the supplied drivers and restarted I was unable to change the resolution to more than 640x480 @ 16 colours. Anything else caused a double-restart and reset them again, plus a message saying I had the wrong display settings.
PC spec is Asus A7N8X-X mobo, Athlon XP2500, Crucial 256MB PC2700, Seagate 7200.7 80GB.
Just to check, I stuck it in my PC which is a creaky old P3-550 in an Abit BX-something board, and I got very similar results.
Then (there's more!) I took it to work, and tried it in two PCs with Gigabyte GA-7DXE mobo, XP2000 and Crucial PC2100, one with Win 2kPro SP4, the other with 98SE. Both had InnoVision GeForce 2's in originally.
They both worked!!! Damn! But still not quite right - the 98SE one recognised it as an InnoVision MX440-8 and seemed to work okay, but still no pre-POST message and the screen flickered REALLY badly each time the setting changed on boot up. The one on Win2k reset itself to basic VGA settings and then seemed to be okay once I ran the MSI install utility and cranked up the resolution, but again, no pre-POST identification and when I tried to select the nVidia menu on the display settings I got a nasty error message and there was nothing in the menu.
I'll stop boring you all now, but I'm trying to work out if the card really is flaky, or if it's just me. I build quite a few PCs and have never seen the like before!
Thanks for reading this far (you must be dedicated, or bored), any suggestions appreciated!

I'm beginning to agree with m'learned colleague Kingfisher about eBuyer. In fact, I sent the tale of my woes to Mike Magee at the Inquirer, and since he published it there have been hordes of others agreeing with me.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14037
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14098
What a shame - they're very cheap, but without customer service I think I'll just have to use someone who gives a damn in future, even if it's a little more expensive.
I did get the latest drivers from the nVidia site, and it seems to have fixed things - but why would MSI ship a card with blatantly defective drivers? It's not like it's a cutting-edge product or anything. (Okay, I'm just toying with the smilies now, sorry).
Still seems very slow in booting, and a bit twitchy overall - I've built other similar systems and with a clean 98SE install it should do the basics (at least startup and shutdown) like greased cow dung off a teflon shovel. I wonder if the mobo's sick... but hey, that's an Asus, so not something to be discussed here!

MX440 T8X Bios Problem

I have problem with my VGA Bios! I have MS GeForce MX440 T8X and I flashed VGA Bios with MX420 Bios
Now I need Bios for MX440 but I can´t it download
with live update I only can download version 4.18.20.07.23 Can you tell me where I can find another BIOS ?

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/driver/dvr/spt_dvr_detail.php?UID=370%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&NAME=MS-8890
try that vga driver

Problems with MX440-T8X

Having problems running any 3D stuff with the video card - even the 3D flower screen saver doesn't run smooth. As for 3D games, a message comes up stating "Can not create direct 3D device". As for the system, latest drivers are loaded and the system consists of:
Codegen 350Watt PS
Biostar M7VIT Pro (KT400) MB
2 256PC2100 DDR memory
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
WD 120GB 7200rpm HD
DVD/CD-RW
Windows XP Pro with SP1

bsbbelle,
It does not sound like you have your Video Drivers Properly loaded. I would load either the MSI Drivers from the website or get the nVidia Detonator4 Drivers from the nVidia Website.
Take Care,
Richard

Gf4 mx440-t8x texture problems?

I have GF4 and on directx display some textures (their edges) are not displayed properly. I tried nvidia divers 45.23, 52.16, 53.03. I am useing Win 2000. Any sugestions, or sould I post my system specs?

Never mind - aplication problem. If you see similar problem, turn 32bit color on .

Control panel problem w/ mx440-t8x

hi.
i have purchased a mx440-t8x 64 Mb DDR 8X (support agp 4x) and installed it on MBB asus a7v (agp 2x/4x), 750 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, 40 Gb HDD, OS w98se. but when i install msi vga driver from original cd-rom, control panel don't work and say "explorer: program will be interrupted" and the control panel window close after. PLEASE, if someone knows how i can make this work, please say me.
thanks in advantage.
e10a04.

Not all audio formats are supported by the MPEG-2 Playback Component.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/mpeg2/faq.html
QuickTime Pro doesn't edit "playback formats" (like MPEG 1 or 2) so you won't see any edit options on these files.
You'll need some third party software to convert your MPEG-2 files into QuickTime formats (DV Stream is best for preserving quality) if you wish to edit.
"Is there any hope?"
Sure. Use third party software to convert and QT Pro to edit.
"asking for my money back."
Apple doesn't refund "downloaded" purchases.

MX440 - T8X Can't get the card over 2X

I have an MSI MX440 - T8X 64mb DDR vga card. (upto 8X agp)
MSI 694T - Pro Motherboard. (upto 4X agp)
Pentium 3 1Ghz.
512mb memory.
I have installed uptodate bios for motherboard and vga card.
Up to date via 4in1 chipset drivers. (and sound drivers) v.449
tried latest Nvidia drivers and latest MSI vga drivers.
Put "auto" for agp speed in bios setup. (also tried on 4X)
no overclocking at all.
Somehow i had 4X in agp speed on display properties before i upgraded
the bios and drivers.
Can't fluke it out again though...
Please help... It's a shame to have the extra speed and not be able to use
it. (also can you usually test agp on dxdiag?.. i don't have the test button
on there just Test DirectDraw and Test Direct3D)

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Originally posted by HockeyFan
Does anyone from MSI ever look at these posts?
If anyone knows how problems can be fixed, it would be them.
I will bump this everyday until i get a workable answer.
HockeyFan,
Unfortunately no one from MSI reads these threads, we are all users helping one another.
You mentioned that you flashed the BIOs on the VGA card, VGA cards are not like motherboards and they generally don't require flashing unless there is an exact reason and the manufacturer clearly states the benefit of doing so. I constantly see users using live update to do this and it can often lead to problems.
EDIT **** I overlocked the Title
Ok, Did you save the original BIOS for the VGA card? Try flashing it back to the original one.

Problems with XP login screen

I recently installed a G-force4 MX440-T8X and while installing the software, it disabled my fast switch login screen in win XP and it will not allow me to change it back. I have tried uninstalling all of the software as well as that piece of hardware and nothing works. It seems to have installed some third party software that controls my display properties with no way to uninstall it. Does anyone know the solution to this problem?
thanks

What version of drivers and where did you get them?

Well, some minor problems with my GF4ti 4800

Hello
I have some problems with my Geforce 4 MX 440 - 8X. I updated all of my drivers and tried evreything.I have no problems playing games using this card. Everything is perfect. But then, when I enter the MSI 3D!Turbo Experience, the program will encounter some problems and will be closed. If I go to the display propeties and enter either MSI information or MSI Clock, again it will be closed due to errors. I don't think that this is the problem with my motherboard because if the motherboard is faulty, it wouldn't work with any GPU in the first place. I really want to rectify this problem so that I can tweak my card to the fullest ( or maybe this card is a total piece of crap). The following is the specification of my system
Pentium 4 2.4 B ( 533 Mhz FSB)
Asus P4S8X motherboard
Kingston 512 MB PC 2700 DDR ram
Maxtor 40 GB Diamond Max plus 8 HDD
MSI Geforce 4 MX 440 T8x ( ms8890)
Creative Sound blaster Live 5.1 SE
Samsung DVD rom
Imation CDRW
a 400 W PSU casing
* I also have a MSI Geforce f Ti 4800. It also has the same problem. These cards would work perfectly on another comp of mine. *
Help would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
Chang K.L.

i just bought this card
i formatted my harddrive
reinstalled winxp pro updated to service pack 1
and installed cumultive patch for internet explorer
when i try to click on the tabs "MSI information" & "MSI clock"
i always get a rundll32.exe error
also MSI 3D!Turbo Experience crashes internet explorer
with an error
AppName: iexplore.exe AppVer: 6.0.2800.1106
ModName: msivga.ocx ModVer: 1.0.1.0
Offset: 00010a6d

MSI Geforce 4 MX 440 -T8X

Hi,
I had a boring problem while updating my card bios with Live Update.And now I can't use my video card because I killed my card with bios update.Is Someone has a bios image file for MSI Geforce 4 MX 440 - T8X ??
P.S/ Please Help me for finding bios image I can't find in anywhere ( correct version of bios)
Sorry about my language .
Blowfish

i just bought this card
i formatted my harddrive
reinstalled winxp pro updated to service pack 1
and installed cumultive patch for internet explorer
when i try to click on the tabs "MSI information" & "MSI clock"
i always get a rundll32.exe error
also MSI 3D!Turbo Experience crashes internet explorer
with an error
AppName: iexplore.exe AppVer: 6.0.2800.1106
ModName: msivga.ocx ModVer: 1.0.1.0
Offset: 00010a6d

MX440-T8X MS-8895-010 64bit or 128bit?

I am looking at getting the MX440-T8X MS-8895-010 (green PCB, no fan).
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/vga/vga/pro_vga_detail.php?UID=370
I bought a Gainward MX440 the other day (*gasp*) and it is only has a 64bit memory width (even though the supplier said it was 128bit).
From many results I've seen 128bit is a huge improvement over 64bit.
The only reason I bought the Gainward over MSI is because it listed the width as 128bit and the MSI one didn't say.
Problem is I don't know how to tell if the MX440-T8X is 64 or 128bit memory width. On the MSI page it says "Supports 128-bit DDR, 64-bit DDR, and 32-bit DDR SDRAM"... well that doesn't help at all.
Is there any other way to tell? I can only exchange the card once so I can't afford to mess up.
Thanks so much for any assistance!

The GF4 you are talking is 128 bit width. The FX 5200 you say is 128 bit width too. The only difference with the 8907 which comes with cooler and red PCB is the cooler itself and the software, and the price. Also, in some versions of the 8907, this card comes with monitoring stuff and the green versiond does not.
Anyway this is not so important
Luck!!!

GF4MX440-T8X(8890) 3D Mark 2001 Score

Purchased GF4-MX440 based card based on Tom's Hardware's VGA performance chart(s).
3D Mark 2001 score for a card based on this chipset should be around 5600. However, I am only getting 3600, which a lot less than I was expecting.
(My other computer has a GF2MX200 based card and the numbers 3D Mark 2001 reports 2300 is consistant with Tom's numbers.)
FIC AT31, AMD AthlonXP 1900+, 1 stick of 256MB DDRAM, XP Home.

Hold on there, you start talking "word problems" with hoses and trains leaving the station and my eyes glaze right over
What I was going on was your statement about "...how could 128 vs 245....Soyo (Via chip?) vs. ECS (SIS chip)....." make a 10-15% difference.....
and your "signiture," which says your GF4MX440 is on the ECS board with a Duron.......
System1: FIC AT31, AMD AlthonXP 1900+, ELSA GF2MX200, 256MB DDR, WinXP
System2: ECS K7S5A, Duron 1.3, MSI GF4MX440-T8X, 196MB SDR, Win98SE
System3: ECS K7S5A, Duron 1.1, CreativeLabs TNT2 Ultra, 128MB SDR, Win98SE
.......I failed to see that you seem to be saying here:
"The fact that I was getting essentually the same 3D Mark 2001 score (3700) on XP1900+/256-2100DDR and Duron1.3/196-133SDR systems........."
........that you did take the card and move it to 2 different machines and run the benchmark.......
.....so, yes, I agree with you, it would seem that the card is the limiting factor....at least between those two motherboard/CPU combos you tested in.
So the next thing to look at, I think, would be the original Tom's test....what were the conditions of that test? For instance, was the score of 5000 while running in "AGP8x" mode?
Your statement..........".....The nature of a video benchmark is to minimize the effect of overall system performance has, and maximize (measure) pure video rendering performance....." is not exactly true.....
.....It only minimizes the performance effects caused by the system.....when all cards are tested in the same system. If you do not have EXACTLY the same system-setup, you will not get the same results.
That's why Tom's (and all the others) specify exactly what the "Test Setup" was, right down to the brand and CAS-value of the RAM.
In your statement....."What is important (or essential) is that the overall system performance be adequate to feed the video card with data so as not to starve the video card of test data...." seems to assume that there is a simple threshold you can cross (in CPU power maybe?) where anything above some Ghz number automatically excuses the overall system configuration from being considered as a possible cause of a performance bottleneck.
But I'm mostly arguing a principle here, that we not too hastily excuse our systems from examination.
But maybe it really is your card that's at fault? What about the "SE" version of the MX440? I saw someone here mention they had unintensionally purchased the "SE" version on a card....which I had not heard of.....so I went and looked into it....
The "SE" version of the MX440 was designed with the same idea as the "m64" version of the TNT2.....instead of the TNT2's full 128-bit memory architecture, the "m64" was designed as an economy model with a 64-bit memory achitecture, which sliced into it's performance very noticably.
nVidia has done the same thing with the "SE" version of their GeForce4 MX440, cutting the MX440's 256-bit memory architecture down to a 128-bit.
The guy I saw here on this forum mentioning he had bought one accidentally, was talking about an MSI card too, ....I don't remember for sure, but I think he said it did NOT state this on the box, but the driver identified the chip on his card to be the "SE" version.
Could that be what's going on?
Stenn

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