Tables or Layers?

I have a photography website www.ashleybaumann.com Right now
the images are just positioned in tables on the page. I am trying
to reduce the number of pages I have by just having thumbnails at
the top of the page that when rolled over or clicked the larger
image appears below. The larger image needs to go away and have a
new one appear when a different thumbnail is chosen. I know how do
this with layers, but I'm having trouble with the layers not
centering. What is the best method to achieve this? I was also
trying to do this without using a premade album. That may be my
best bet but I was hoping I could do it on my own.

Correct. That's the other side of the coin I mentioned.
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> > Gotcha. So it really depends on whether the user
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> > initially, or a slow image retrieval for each
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> >> Doesn't matter. If the images are mentioned in
the page's direct
markup,
> >> then they will be fetched from the server. This
encumbers the page
with
> > the
> >> weight of all those images. That's why the
ShowPic is nice - the image
> >> is
> >> not fetched until you click on the thumbnail.
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> >> >> > No need for an extension. Read up
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> >> >> >
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> > apply
> >> >> > the
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> >> >> > "ashbee5923"
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> >> >> >
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> >> >> >> I have a photography website
www.ashleybaumann.com Right now the
> >> > images
> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> just positioned in tables on
the page. I am trying to reduce the
> >> > number
> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> pages I have by just having
thumbnails at the top of the page
that
> >> >> >> when
> >> >> > rolled
> >> >> >> over or clicked the larger
image appears below. The larger image
> >> >> >> needs
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> > go
> >> >> >> away and have a new one
appear when a different thumbnail is
> >> >> >> chosen.
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> > know
> >> >> >> how do this with layers, but
I'm having trouble with the layers
not
> >> >> > centering.
> >> >> >> What is the best method to
achieve this?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> Hi all
>
> I have created this as a new post as the original one by
DummyPete has
> become
> a bit too long and the topic has altered somewhat :)
>
> DummyPete orignially wrote:
> "Basically, I'd like to create the fairly common design
where the left
> sidebar
> has hotspot buttons and remains static/consistent across
all pages, along
> with
> the top header banner. The sidebar and the banner are
sizeable GIFs, so I
> don't
> want to keep reloading them for every page.
>
> I tried frames, but couldn't get the images to lineup
and all the separate
> HTML files to work; besides, the book says to avoid
frames. Then I tried
> layers, but neither Firefox nor IExplorer displayed my
basic layout
> properly; I
> didn't even get as far as hyperlinking the regions. I
was able to create
> the
> desired effect with tables, but I can't seem to figure
out how to update
> only
> one cell of the table when clicking the different
hotspots in the adjacent
> sidebar cell -- is this even possible?
>
> I have a similar query:
>
> I am trying to create a online folio where you click an
image with a link
> on a
> menu and it opens up a larger image on the page. Like
DummyPete If I use
> links
> it jumps between pages. What is the easiest way to make
such a gallery?
>
> I have found a site to show what I am trying to do:
>
>
http://www.nolovelost.co.nz/main.html
>
> I believe this uses frames. Is there a way to do this
kind of thing
> without
> frames? Are there any major problems using frames?
>
> The responses i have had so far are:
>
> HI! I think this is what you want unless you have a
larger gallery.
>
>
http://javascript.internet.com/miscellaneous/gallery-viewer.html#source
>
> Sales
> Webcan design
>
http://www.webcandesign.com
>
> and
>
> that opens a new window resized to the actual size of
the larger image...
> this extension will allow you to do that:
www.dreamweaverfever.com/grow/
>
> No need to use frames at all.
>
> --
> Nadia
> Adobe? Community Expert : Dreamweaver
>
> Thank you to those who posted:) much appreciated. It
isn't quite what I
> was
> looking for.
>
> I have read may other posts about this subject and most
point to pre made
> galleries. I am happy to have each image as a separate
page. All I want
> to do
> is have a link and when it is clicked it opens somewhere
else on the pages
> without the rest of the page jumping. When I create each
image on a
> separate
> page (eg image1.html, image2.html) with the same
navigation setup on each
> page
> it flicks as the each page loads. I really like how in
the example i
> posted you
> click the text link on the left and the image opens to
the right - how can
> i do
> this?
>
> thanks
> Poppit
>

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> i converted my tables to layers and now it's like a
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1. ... any ideas?
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from FW as 8bit
(or 32bit) PNG files? Try using GIF/JPG images instead.
> 2. i want to create a page where people can leave a
comment about the
> website. i would like the comment to post automatically.
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> how
> involved this is but if you can direct me to what i need
to do, i would
> appreciate it. if there is a high learning curve, it's
ok. i want to
> learn.
> am i crazy?
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"Itiyopiya Ewart" <[email protected]> wrote
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> thanks ACE!
> i converted my tables to layers and now it's like a
whole new world.
> thank
> you thank you!!! i'm learning css now... i have some
more questions that
> i
> hope you can help me with:
> 1. i'm using dreamweaver 8. i'm using OSX. my browsers
for checking my
> pages are safari, firefox, and opera. for some reason
certain images
> won't
> show in firefox and opera. i can see them in safari, but
the other two
> only
> show the alt image info. this also happens in IE. the
files are .png.
> they
> were all created in photoshop from the same .psd but two
images for the
> navigation menu don't show. any ideas?
>
> 2. i want to create a page where people can leave a
comment about the
> website. i would like the comment to post automatically.
i'm not sure
> how
> involved this is but if you can direct me to what i need
to do, i would
> appreciate it. if there is a high learning curve, it's
ok. i want to
> learn.
> am i crazy?
>
> thanks!
>

Looking for Table to CSS Converter

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representative of your work
than the train wreck that results when you convert tables to
layers.
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cells, add some
content to each cell, and convert to layers. Look at the
incredible mess
you have now in your code. Preview in a browser, and expand
your text size
in the browser. Look at the incredible mess you have in the
browser.
I think your approach is COMPLETELY wrong.
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> Thanks for helping me find the Convert to Divs button...
i'll test it out.
> I
> went on the web and googled Table2CSS and found some
interesting tools...
> In regards to the question about Converting Tables to
Divs or pure css....
> In reply too:
>
quote:
Question is why do you want to do this? To say that there are
no tables
> in
> the page?
> Well that seems to be the NEW RAGE(actually its not new
though)... create
> websites without TABLES.... google it on the Web and
you'll see all the
> responses. Its almost as big a argument as MAC vs. PC
all though we know
> that
> "Talent" is what drives creativity... the tool is just a
tool to
> accomplish
> your job...but thats for another discussion
> Anyway back to the CSS design vs. Table design website.
>
> I had 2 friends who went on job interviews where they
showed samples of
> their
> websites to 3 different large corporations and all 3
interviews said "we
> want
> to see websites .
WITHOUT tables and using only CSS and or DIVs." as
> samples for their portfolios
> WOW... i thought so....
> I've talked to a number of other friends in large
companies and this is
> the
> going trend now... Design TABLELESS Websites (if you
google that you'll
> find
> that as well) and use only pure CSS. Many company's are
doing this I think
> its
> because knowone can seem to figure out Tables.
>
> Now i personally have been designing websites for a
little over 10 years
> and
> have never had issues with Tables to design a website
although i do
> understand
> the arguments behind load times... I think its because
some out there
> still
> haven't got the nack of how to design a website and
limit the load times
> while
> still using Tables.
>
> So in view of the feed back i've been getting about this
pure CSS website
> and
> no tables trend, I've been converting some of my 10 page
client websites
> to
> PURE CSS just because i got an inside tip that company's
will pay big
> bucks to
> convert their website to PURE CSS and no tables just
becuase another
> I.T.executive consultant said that is the route to go.
>
> Again... for me... its all about knowing how to optimize
your webpages
> whether
> you're doing Tables or Pure CSS.
> Its also about if your website makes the user have to
"THINK TO MUCH"...
> you
> can build a cool website design with out making the user
"Think To Much"
> such
> as How long is this website going to take to load, or
why is it so
> complicated
> to navigate with all these uncessary tables and
etc...but again the "Don't
> Make
> Me Think" syndrome is for yet another discussion
>
> Anyway... thanks for the tip about Dreameweaver's
"Convert" button....
> i've
> tried it and its ok... but it needs alittle refinement
on automation. (for
> example it would be nice if it put the CSS in a TAG up
in the head like a
> Table2Css conversion tool i found.)
>
> Best Regards,
>

Cell vs table quetsion

I know this is not the best way of designing a site, but I
usually do my layout in PS, import to image ready, slice it up, add
rollovers, then export html and images to work with in DW.
When doing this, I believe IR creates all the images in
cells, rather than tables.
On some occations, I just create a table and insert my images
into various tables in my html document. In DW MX, I had an option
of using or converting between tables and cells. In DW CS3, my
cells option is faded out. I need to convert a table html doc to
cells. Reason being, Im trying to add some js to a page for some
special effects and the js needs to be the only table in the page
to work correctly.
So, did I miss something in my DW CS3? is the cell feature no
longer an option? Do I need to download an extension to use cells?
Or am I going about this the wrong way. Thanks for any help.
p.s. when scrolling over the cell button that doesnt seem to
work, the screen hint states Draw Layout Cell (layout mode only)
Ive tried in layout mode and standard. still no good.

>I know this is not the best way of designing a site, but
I usually do my
>layout
> in PS, import to image ready, slice it up, add
rollovers, then export html
> and
> images to work with in DW.
It's not just 'not the best'. It's actually 'the worst',
since such HTML is
fragile, and will cause your layout to break without warning.
This means
that the code written by a graphics application is monolithic
and
inflexible, being written to EXACTLY duplicate the shape of
the graphic and
its included 'content'. When you change that shape, the page
just breaks -
things spread apart and develop gaps, content wraps in
unexpected way, and
your layout generally just breaks.
> When doing this, I believe IR creates all the images in
cells, rather than
> tables.
A cell is in a table. You cannot have a cell without having
it be part of a
table. And you cannot have something in a table without it
being in a cell.
> On some occations, I just create a table and insert my
images into various
> tables in my html document. In DW MX, I had an option of
using or
> converting
> between tables and cells. In DW CS3, my cells option is
faded out. I need
> to
> convert a table html doc to cells. Reason being, Im
trying to add some js
> to a
> page for some special effects and the js needs to be the
only table in the
> page
> to work correctly.
This is very confused. Are you referring to tables < -
> layers? If using
IR HTML is like a train wreck, converting tables to layers
would be like a
nuclear explosion. That 'feature' was removed from CS4
because it created
such a dreadful mess.
> Reason being, Im trying to add some js to a
> page for some special effects and the js needs to be the
only table in the
> page
> to work correctly.
Sorry - this just makes no sense. Javascript is not a table.
Javascript
code can go anywhere in the page.
> Ive tried in layout mode and standard
Layout mode is functionally equivalent to using IR to write
your HTML. This
'feature' too has been removed from CS4.
I'm sorry to seem like I'm picking on you, but the truth is
that if you want
to use Dreamweaver, you are going to have to learn some HTML
and CSS to
survive. Otherwise, DW will clobber you big time....
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>I know this is not the best way of designing a site, but
I usually do my
>layout
> in PS, import to image ready, slice it up, add
rollovers, then export html
> and
> images to work with in DW.
>
> When doing this, I believe IR creates all the images in
cells, rather than
> tables.
>
> On some occations, I just create a table and insert my
images into various
> tables in my html document. In DW MX, I had an option of
using or
> converting
> between tables and cells. In DW CS3, my cells option is
faded out. I need
> to
> convert a table html doc to cells. Reason being, Im
trying to add some js
> to a
> page for some special effects and the js needs to be the
only table in the
> page
> to work correctly.
>
> So, did I miss something in my DW CS3? is the cell
feature no longer an
> option? Do I need to download an extension to use cells?
Or am I going
> about
> this the wrong way. Thanks for any help.
>
> p.s. when scrolling over the cell button that doesnt
seem to work, the
> screen
> hint states Draw Layout Cell (layout mode only)
> Ive tried in layout mode and standard. still no good.
>

Layer position fix to Table position

Hi there,
I have read quite a bit about positioning layers, however i
still find it imposible to use flexible tables with layers.
I have a simple info buton that onRollOver is shows a layer,
Example:
sample website
I manage to keep it quite close to the info buton, by setting
the left: 45% top: 65%; instead of pixels.
But when you resize the browser window (F11) it still moves .
And on full Screen it actually overlaps the buton making the
layer jumpy.
Thanks for some creative advice.
Anybody with a better solution?

> Ok, could you telll me what is wrong?
You didn't do what I told you to do.
<td colspan="2" align="center" valign="bottom"><div
style="position:relative"><div
id="Layer1"></div></div></td>
here is the css code
#Layer1 {
position:absolute;
width:334px;
height: 82px;
z-index:1;
left: 108px;
top:1px;
visibility: hidden;
background-image: url(olo_images/bubble.gif);
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>
quote:
Originally posted by:
Newsgroup User
> > otherwise it would strech the whole table to give
space for the image
> > inside the layer, even after having set the table
at an absolute size of
> 522px width.
>
> No, it wouldn't. Since the layer (and its contents) are
removed from the
> flow of the page (by virtue of being absolutely
positioned) neither the
> layer, nor its contents can interact with any other page
element.
>
>
> Ok, could you telll me what is wrong?
> I have a table that is width:522
> Set to be in the middle and centre to screen
> 3columns and 3 rows
> in the middle i have the logo and in 2 corners
invisible.gif
> I tried to put the layer (<Div>THE.gif loaded from
css</Div>)at the botom
> righ
> corner (in the cell)
> It wouldn't work! It streched the whole table to ad the
image size.
> When i merges the two cells botom right so that the cell
was biger than
> the
> image loaded it worked!
> Where is the mistake?
>
> the htm code:
> <td colspan="2" align="center"
valign="bottom"><div
> id="Layer1"></div></td>
>
> here is the css code
> #Layer1 {
> position:relative;
> width:334px;
> height: 82px;
> z-index:1;
> overflow: visible;
> left: 108px;
> top:1px;
> visibility: hidden;
> background-image: url(olo_images/bubble.gif);
> }
>
>
> PS the problem is solved but i'd like to know for the
future. :-)
>
> Thanks
>
>

Layers Resources

Ive been in the Web and Graphic Design Field for 3 years now,
Im getting much heavier into my web work and am looking for
resources on designing web pages in layers. The reason Im asking is
Ive read a bunch of material alot of just dreamweavers support
material on their table and layer usage. The current project I am
working on is redesigning my companies current website. The site
design is quite old and the coding seems quite old as well. So I am
revising the design and the back end. Im debating on designing the
full layout in just tables or layers or a combination of layers. I
need to design in a format that will be consistent between
browsers. Any ideas on an approach?

Hi Jakub,
I can think of two changes you can make that can help.
1. You don't mention what architecture your office version is. I would suggest you use 64 bit Excel. It has a higher memory threshold and performs much better when using a lot of memory.
2. Install all of the latest CU updates for Office. There has been dozens of bug fixes for PowerPivot and Power View since the last release.
You mention you can share the workbook. Feel free to send to me at
[email protected] and I would be willing to take a look and see if the crashes are known issues or already fixed.
Brad Syputa, Microsoft Reporting Services This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties.

I should have chosen tables :(

Hello,
I am new at web design and recently came across the
predictable fork in the road decision....do I build my template
with tables or layers? The book I was studying at the time time
said that layers were the way of the future, so I thought I might
as well make the plunge into the deep end. Well, things were going
swimmingly until I started to use my template with all the
different pages in my website. I started to get that sinking
feeling when I noticed that when I used different fonts and text
sizes in my layers, I couldn't get the bottoms of all the layers
that were placed side by side to line up evenly on the bottom. I
checked all the properties in the CSS panel, and all I could find
that looked like it might help was the vertical align property,
but, sadly, it didn't seem to solve the problem. Does anyone know
how to solve this problem for me? I have run out of text books to
find the answer to this problem.
Cbos

> The book I was
> studying at the time time said that layers were the way
of the future
I'm curious which book that was?
> Does anyone know how to solve this problem for me?
By not EVER using layers for page layout. Unfortunately you
may be too deep
into it at this point. Can you post a link to one of your
pages?
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> Hello,
> I am new at web design and recently came across the
predictable fork in
> the
> road decision....do I build my template with tables or
layers? The book I
> was
> studying at the time time said that layers were the way
of the future, so
> I
> thought I might as well make the plunge into the deep
end. Well, things
> were
> going swimmingly until I started to use my template with
all the different
> pages in my website. I started to get that sinking
feeling when I noticed
> that
> when I used different fonts and text sizes in my layers,
I couldn't get
> the
> bottoms of all the layers that were placed side by side
to line up evenly
> on
> the bottom. I checked all the properties in the CSS
panel, and all I
> could
> find that looked like it might help was the vertical
align property, but,
> sadly, it didn't seem to solve the problem. Does anyone
know how to solve
> this
> problem for me? I have run out of text books to find the
answer to this
> problem.
> Cbos
>

Different types of tables and modes

Hi Experts
What is the specification of different tables in console and different modes in data manager.
What is the major difference between them.
Can we create a table of one type in console and can use the same table in another mode in data manager, say if I create a taxanomy table and can I use it as the hierarchy mode in the data manager.
have fun..
Hari

Hi Hari,
Differnt types of tables in Console are :
Actually the Tables in Console are further categorized as :
Main Table and Sub table which include:
Flat Tables : It is a simple table consisting of record and fields ( rows and column) . In MDM Main table is always a flat table.
Hierarchy Table : A hierarchy table organizes information in a hierarchy, where each record is related to a parent record (even if the only parent is the root) and may also be related to sibling records and/or child records.
Taxonomy Table : A taxonomy is the classification scheme that defines the categories and subcategories that apply to a collection of records. Categorizing records enables you to isolate subsets of records for various organizing, searching, editing and publishing purposes.
Qualified Table : A qualified table in MDM stores a set of lookup records,and also supports qualifiers, u201Csubfieldsu201D that apply not to the qualified table record by itself, but rather to each association of a qualified table record with a main table record. MDM supports multiple simultaneous qualified tables.
Tables are also Categorized as Object Tables like :
Images : For storing Images
Sounds : For Sound File.
Videos : For storing Video Files .
Binary Objects : To store Binary Objects.
Text Blocks : To store block of text.
Copy Blocks : Stores block of text interpreted as a Copy.
Text HTML`s : Stores block of text interpreted as a HTML.
PDFs : To store PDF files.
There are various types of Special Tables also:
Image Variants : Used to define the structure
and format of each of the variants for each image. Each variant is a modified version derived from an original image; the original image is never modified.
Masks : In this defined subset of records are included in Mask i.e. in any scenario whether new records are added or deleted in the repository the records in the Mask remains the same unless edited by the user.
Families : Used to further partition main table records in each category into smaller groups based upon the values of other fields and/or attributes.
Relationships : Used to define each of the different record-level relationships. Each relationship can be either bidirectional (sibling) or unidirectional (parent-child).
Workflows : Stores the workflows of an MDM repository, where each workflow is stored as a record in the table.
Name Searches : Unlike Masks in case of Name search there are again a defined set of records but those records are selected on the basis of Search Selection. In this case if a record is added then the record is checked whether it fulfills the particular search criteria if it does than it is added to the Name serach else not.
Data Groups : Stores the hierarchy of data groups used to break the entire set of objects in the MDM repository into manageable subgroups.
There are various types of System Tables :
Roles : A single table named Roles. One of three tables used to implement MDM repository security and access control. Each role can selectively grant or deny access to any MDM function and to any table or field. This table is managed in the MDM Console and is not visible in the MDM Client.
Users : A single table named Users. One of three tables used to implement MDM repository security and access control. Each user can have one or more roles. This table is managed in the MDM Console and is not visible in the MDM Client.
Connections : A single table named Connections. One of three tables used to implement MDM repository security and access control. Contains an entry for each currently connected MDM client application, which can be terminated by the MDM Console user. This table is not visible in the MDM Client.
Change Tracking : A single table named Change Tracking. Allows you to specify the fields for which adds, modifies, and deletes should be tracked and stored in the Change Tracking table.
Remote Systems : A single table named Remote Systems. Used to define the different remote systems for import and export. Each specifies whether it supports inbound, outbound, or both. This table is managed in the MDM Console and is not visible in the MDM Client.
Ports : A single table named Ports. Used to encapsulate the logistical and configuration info for inbound and outbound processing of MDM data, for consolidation and distribution respectively. This table is managed in the MDM Console and is not visible in the MDM Client.
Links : A single table named Links. Used to specify the URLs that can be used as the target of an embedded browser in the Web tab in the MDM Client. This table is managed in the MDM Console and is not visible in the MDM Client.
XML Schema : A single table named XML Schemas. Used to identify the XML schemas for import and syndication. Each XML schema is the name of an .xsd file. This table is managed in the MDM Console and is not visible in the MDM Client.
Reports : A single table named Reports. Contains an entry for each report file generated by the various MDM repository operations, which can be accessed and viewed by the MDM Console user. This table is not visible in the MDM Client.
Logs : A single table named Logs. Contains an entry for the log files generated by the MDM Server, which can be accessed and viewed by the MDM Console user. This table is not visible in the MDM Client.
Data Manager:
Data Manager in simple terms can be stated as a place where we manage the data that is taken from various systems.
All the data that you take from all the various systems that a business is using is then taken into data manager, so that it could be cleansed and can be maintained easily in future.
There are basically four different modes in Data Manager:
1. Record Mode: This mode allows us to search, view and edit the records of any table in MDM repository. This is the mode that one uses most often, primarily to view and edit records in the main table and also to view and edit records in any of the sub tables.
2. Hierarchy mode. This mode allow us to view and edit the hierarchy tables in the MDM repository, including regular hierarchy tables, taxonomy tables, and the Masks table. Though we can also view and edit the records of a hierarchy table in Record mode, Hierarchy mode specifically allows us to edit the parent/child relationships and the sibling ordering of the hierarchy.
3. Taxonomy mode. This mode allows us to view and edit the taxonomy tables in the MDM repository. We usually use this mode to create and maintain the category hierarchy used in the repository, and to manage the attributes associated with each category and subcategory. Though we can also view and edit taxonomy tables in both Record mode (for searching) and Hierarchy mode (for editing the other fields of information associated with each category), Taxonomy mode is unique in that instead of focusing on the records of the taxonomy table, it allows you to create and manage the pool of attributes associated with the taxonomy table, and to assign attributes to categories on a category-by-category basis.
4. Matching mode. This mode allows us to identify and eliminate duplicate records within an MDM repository. When you view the main table in Matching mode, MDM allows you to perform u201Cmatching-and-mergingu201D on and against any or all of its records, using various user-defined criteria (like creation of Rules and Strategies) to decide whether or not records are potential duplicates.
5. Family mode. This mode allows us to view and edit the Families table, which layers a hierarchy of families upon the taxonomy hierarchy to further break down each category into smaller groups of main table records. We usually use this mode to partition the categories of the taxonomy hierarchy by the values of other fields and/or attributes, and then to associate family data (such as an image, a paragraph, and bullets) once with each family of main table records rather than each individual record.
Can we create a table of one type in console and can use the same table in another mode in data manager, say if I create a taxanomy table and can I use it as the hierarchy mode in the data manager.
The structure of the tables are defined in Console and those tables are then used in Data Manager, but if you have defined a table as a Hierarchy table you cannot use that table in Taxonomy Mode but you will be able to see all the tables in Record Mode.
Hope this would be useful...
If useful do reward points!!!!
Regards,
Parul

Need help with show/hide and layers moving

I'm more of a designer, so I don't know code or CSS well at
all. I'm doing an online portfolio for a class and need help with
layers not staying in place in different browsers. The portfolio is
created with a table, but I wanted to use the show/hide function
for thumbnails of work. Are layers the only way you can use this
function? I read layers don't work well with tables, so how else
can I make it so when you mouse over a thumbnail, the larger image
appears in another cell?

> I don't know code or CSS well at all.
That's unfortunate.
> layers not staying in place in different browsers.
Layers don't move. But the rest of your page does.
Before you get too wrapped up in layers, though, please read
this -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layerlaws.asp
They are not good when be used as a primary layout method.
> I read layers don't work well with tables
They work fine with tables - but you have to understand both
tables and
layers to use them.
Why not show us your page, so we can see what you are
struggling with?
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> I'm more of a designer, so I don't know code or CSS well
at all. I'm doing
> an
> online portfolio for a class and need help with layers
not staying in
> place in
> different browsers. The portfolio is created with a
table, but I wanted to
> use
> the show/hide function for thumbnails of work. Are
layers the only way you
> can
> use this function? I read layers don't work well with
tables, so how else
> can I
> make it so when you mouse over a thumbnail, the larger
image appears in
> another
> cell?
>

How do I move a list item to the left?

I need help formatting graphic banners inside a list.
What I'm doing: Updating a very old pre-CSS site with messy,
messy code.
The layout is done by tables within tables within tables
(three layers of nested tables.)
In the innermost table, the right column contains a list of
links. Originally the page had every link in a seperate <p>
tag, with bullets specified as numbers in the HTML. To try to
update and clean things up, I made everything an unordered list,
and used a LI style to set margin-bottom to .75em (to put some
spacing between the list entries) and text-align to justify.
And, I want to have a few (graphic banners) flush against the
left margin of the table column.
I created a new style, BareListItem, and gave it no style (to
remove the bullet), and left margin of -1em. That's close.
How can I get the left margin to actually be zero (absolute),
rather than relative?
Here's the style sheet.
LI {
text-align: justify;
margin-bottom: .75em;
.BareListItem {
list-style: none;
margin-left: -1em;
Problem #2: Dreamweaver insists that the column is too wide.
The only thing contained within the column are list items, text,
links, and graphic banners that I'm moving leftward with this style
element. I cannot find anything in there that is too big, yet DW
insists that the table column cannot be thinner.
How can I find out what's the oversized problem -- how can I
find out what's forcing the column to be wider than I have
specified?

I think this is what you're talking about... give this a shot. You can style the menu with CSS if you want.
This code will make a drop down like this: (http://www.melsbgc.com/test.htm)
<FORM NAME="form" ID="form">
<SELECT NAME="jumpMenu" ID="jumpMenu" onChange="MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0)">
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=Junior%20Nationa l">Junior National</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=250%20National">250 National</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=450%20Elite">450 Elite</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=450%20Clubman">450 Clubman</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=Open%20Elite">Open Elite</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=Open%20Nationals">Open Nationals</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=Open%20Clubman%2 0Cup">Open Clubman Cup</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=450%20Quad">450 Quad</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=Open%20Quad">Open Quad</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=650%20Superlite">650 Superlite</OPTION>
    <OPTION VALUE="http://www.pitlanepass.com/pages/orgdetail.php?orgname=NORASPORT&ridercat=Open%20Superlite">Open Superlite</OPTION>
</SELECT>
</FORM>

Problem with Layer Align

Ok, I created a website and use ImageReady to export it to
Dreamweaver. I then converted the tables to layers and set up the
site....
http://onelongday.com
Unfortunately I forgot to set up a parent layer, to place all
the other content within, so I could align the site to center. Now
the site looks fine when viewed at 1280 x 1024 but if viewed at
1024 x 768 it is offset to the right.
I tried to create a new parent layer...aligned auto center
and then tried to select all layers, cut and paste them into the
new parent layer...but dreamweaver would not allow it.
I then tried to go into the code and write in a parent layer
around the content....still nothing.
Any ideas how to do this quickly and easily???

If you are going to use layers, you need to know these things
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layerlaws.asp
The text overflow is one of the worst of the problems.
For any help with your current page, you'd need to post a
link to the page
so we can see its layout problems and look at its code.
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> Hey Bregent,
>
> Thanks for telling what I did wrong, but what I really
need to know is how
> to
> fix it. As for my choice of using layers, the code seems
so much lighter
> than
> tables. At least from my testing, page loading seems to
go a lot faster
> with
> layers, what is the downside to using them?
>

Recommend a good Adobe Web Premium CS3 book please?

I would really like to get to grips with Adobe Web Premium
CS3, finding it a mission use new spry stuff, firework generated
CSS menus and all these new features which seem to make life harder
(would really like to be able to center pages, that have a
combination of menus, tables and layers).
Can anyone please recommend a good book? I'm not sure which
one to go for? Which ones are a must have?
Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 Classroom in a Book
Adobe Creative Suite 3 Bible
Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 with ASP, ColdFusion, and PHP: Training
from the Source
Dreamweaver CS3 for Dummies (For Dummies (Computers))
Adobe Photoshop CS3 Classroom in a Book (Classroom in a Book
(Adobe))
Adobe Flash CS3 Professional Classroom in a Book
Dreamweaver CS3 the Missing Manual
Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 How-tos: 100 Essential Techniques
(How-Tos)

I would recommend the David Powers book, or the Missing
Manual book (I was
the Tech Editor on that one).
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>I would really like to get to grips with Adobe Web
Premium CS3, finding it
>a
> mission use new spry stuff, firework generated CSS menus
and all these new
> features which seem to make life harder (would really
like to be able to
> center
> pages, that have a combination of menus, tables and
layers).
>
> Can anyone please recommend a good book? I'm not sure
which one to go for?
> Which ones are a must have?
>
> Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 Classroom in a Book
> Adobe Creative Suite 3 Bible
> Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 with ASP, ColdFusion, and PHP:
Training from the
> Source
> Dreamweaver CS3 for Dummies (For Dummies (Computers))
> Adobe Photoshop CS3 Classroom in a Book (Classroom in a
Book (Adobe))
> Adobe Flash CS3 Professional Classroom in a Book
> Dreamweaver CS3 the Missing Manual
> Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 How-tos: 100 Essential Techniques
(How-Tos)
>

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