Temporary files and buffersize limit question

Hello,
I have two questions :
1. Buffer limit
Is there a limit for the buffer to return to a client. I have
a conversational service routine. If I want to return 50 record ( i.e. view structures
) my service routine hangs. If I do 10 records than it is ok. Is there a limit
size to return. Is there a parameter in UBBconfig to fix this.
2. Temporary files on conversational client / services
My service routine creates temporary files in the /tmp directory. Unfortunately
the mode for /tmp has 't'bit on so users can not delete files from other users.
The problem is I have a lot of temporary files in /tmp. Does anyone know how to
fix this or where can you specify not to use temp files or where can you specify
the directory to create tempfile. de name of files are /tmp/TUXxxxxxx where xxxxxx
is a random serie of characters.
Thanks a lot
Johan den Boer
email : [email protected]
[email protected]

Buffers that are larger than 3/4 of MSGMNB are sent through a file. The name is
generated with tmpnam(), so you should be able to specify a different directory by
setting TMPDIR in the environment.
The preferred solution is to not use file transfer, by setting your IPC parameters
high enough to pass all of your application messages.
If your service routine hangs, you should look at a possible application problem.
How are you packing the VIEWs into a buffer? Are you using embedded FML with
FLD_VIEW32 fields? That would be the best way.
Remember that VIEWs are binary structures that are unique to a particular machine
type. If you pack Views together into your own buffer format, and try to use them
on a different machine type, then they won't work properly.
Scott Orshan
Johan den Boer wrote:
Hello,
I have two questions :
1. Buffer limit
Is there a limit for the buffer to return to a client. I have
a conversational service routine. If I want to return 50 record ( i.e. view structures
) my service routine hangs. If I do 10 records than it is ok. Is there a limit
size to return. Is there a parameter in UBBconfig to fix this.
2. Temporary files on conversational client / services
My service routine creates temporary files in the /tmp directory. Unfortunately
the mode for /tmp has 't'bit on so users can not delete files from other users.
The problem is I have a lot of temporary files in /tmp. Does anyone know how to
fix this or where can you specify not to use temp files or where can you specify
the directory to create tempfile. de name of files are /tmp/TUXxxxxxx where xxxxxx
is a random serie of characters.
Thanks a lot
Johan den Boer
email : [email protected]
[email protected]

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