Text frames added to items in my Indesign library?

Hey,
When I put design elements (even just simple text so I can, say, save a headline font I like for a specific element) into my library to re-use later, when I pull them out they have a huge text frame on the, which I then have to remove manually. This is a pain. I might as well just keep a notepad beside my computer and write down things I like and remake them every time if I'm going to have to mess with the elements I pull out of the library anyway.
Any way I can just get it to stop doing that? I'd like the element I put into the library to be THE SAME element when I take it out. I have a feeling there's just some setting somewhere I can't find that's causing this.
I'm using CS6, by the way.

Salah Fadlabi wrote:
Try to open Object style with no document open, double click on none then close and open indesign. Every frame after this process will be without border.
This is only correct for new created document, not for existing ones. If the problem existis in an existing document you have to change the default style with no object selected.
I would strongly recommend to create its own basic styles for each category and load them into the several style panels to have always styles with the same name in every document which makes exchange of items easier.
Default Object styles are those with the small rectangle graphic at the right. The one with the T ist for Text frames, the one without T for Image Frames.

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[edit]
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