Third party pricing

hi,
plz any body explain how the pricing takes place........in this third party business process

Hi
The Third Party is the special sales process where the customer places an order with the business and the business is nt having the stock of the material, then the company raises the purchase order with the vendor and the goods from teh vendor are shipped to the cstomer and the billing is done for the company
The flow is as follows
1.Customer places an ordre
2.in the change mode of the order VA02 the requistion number is ther
3.with this number company raises the PO me21n
4.goods are received and the documentis created in MIGO
5.invoice verification is happend for the goods sent by vendor to the custoemr MIRO
6. in the purchase order the price of the material is maintained throught the condition type PBXX
7.the company billed by the vendor
8 the customer is billied by the company through the invoice VF01
This is the total process of teh third party sales
rewards if needful
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F: Order-related billing doc. - status according to invoice quantity
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In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
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Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
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Automatic third-party order processing
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Manual third-party order processing
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Billing Third-Party Orders
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FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
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We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
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THe above two steps are standard and manual. There are many other ways that the actual process can happen. If the client follows EDI standards then the Goods receipt and Invoice receipt can be done through IDOCs automatically.
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Customize the third party sales in summary:
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purchasing group,
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8. Goods issue
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