Time Machine requests more storage than needed!

Starting standard backup
Backing up to: /Volumes/TM_Backup/Backups.backupdb
No pre-backup thinning needed: 1.94 GB requested (including padding), 109.41 GB available
Copied 2539 files (265.1 MB) from volume Snow_Leopard.
Copied 2547 files (265.1 MB) from volume Leopard.
Copied 2754 files (548.8 MB) from volume Data.
No pre-backup thinning needed: 1.29 GB requested (including padding), 108.86 GB available
Copied 382 files (103 bytes) from volume Snow_Leopard.
Copied 390 files (196 bytes) from volume Leopard.
Copied 435 files (196 bytes) from volume Data.
Starting post-backup thinning
No post-back up thinning needed: no expired backups exist
Backup completed successfully.
As you can see from the log entries above, Time Machine requested 1.94 GB, but it backed up only 548.8 MB.
And then it requested 1.29 GB and it backed up only 196 bytes.
I recall reading in this forum that this may be caused by the size information in some folder being wrong. I have partitioned my internal hard drive in three partitions:
1. Leopard
2. Snow Leopard
3. Data
So, I excluded the Leopard partition and did another backup and it was still more than 1 GB.
I added Leopard and took a backup.
Then I excluded Snow Leopard and did another backup and the space requested was still more than 1 GB.
So I added Snow Leopard and took a backup.
Then I excluded Data and did another backup. It requested more than 1 GB.
So, I was unable to identify which volume had the bad folder info.
I wiped out the Time Machine backup by reformatting the volume,
I then re-created the directory of all three volumes using Disk Warrior.
And then I ran a fresh backup.
And then I ran another backup. It still requests more than 1 GB than needed.
Any else I should try?
Thank you very much.
Roberto
Message was edited by: Roberto Sepúlveda

Pondini wrote:
Roberto Sepúlveda wrote:
As you can see from the log entries above, Time Machine requested 1.94 GB, but it backed up only 548.8 MB.
And then it requested 1.29 GB and it backed up only 196 bytes.
That's more of an over-estimate than usual. TM adds 20% to the estimated size of the backup, and it's usually fairly close.
no it's not. I frequently see large disparity between estimated and actual backup for smaller backups. in the example I posted the ratio is 5:1! this is completely normal. there is nothing to troubleshoot or see here.
There are some things that will cause the estimate to be off significantly, but most of them result in larger backups, not smaller ones.
It's pure speculation, but I suspect if the same file is updated repeatedly between backups, it's size may be counted more than once for the estimate.
But as you mentioned, something corrupted might be a cause, also. Since there's no way to tell how much was estimated from each partition, I'd run +*Verify Disk+* on the partition you're running from, and +*Repair Disk+* on the others, then do a Restart.

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    I have plenty of other HDs with 1-2 Tb that I could use as backup. Can I use them in Time Machine? Can Time Machine split all the data from my Mac and source HDs in more than one destination HD? I would love it if I could avoid buying large 6-10Tb HDs; they are still expensive... I'll appreciate your kind inputs!

    Technically, you could store parts of your backup on different drives, but it would require you to be constantly changing the items excluded. It is designed to be a single backup, which you can do the entire backup to more than one drive.

  • TIME MACHINE ON MORE THAN ONE DISK KEEPING THE OLD DISK

    If the HD used for TM becomes full I would like to install a new one bigger and stert it over. I see one could clone the previous HD to have acces to previous BU but I would prefer to keep the old disk for few months untill I am sure I will not need anithing older and in the time TM has built up a new BU.
    To be more clear: mi present TM Disk goues back to May 2008 and is 320GB. I remove it and use a new HD 500GB which will start to keep my BU from now. Will it be possible to disconnect the nes HD and connect gain the old if I wish to find something dated from May to today ??

    Yes,
    it will be possible. Just plug the old 320GB HD, you won't even need to unplug the new 500GB one, then right-click the Time Machine Dock icon and choose "browse other Time Machine disks", then you may choose the old 320GB one and restore anything you need from it.
    You can then change back to the 500GB or to any other newer one too, as you wish.

  • HT201250 Can I use Time Machine on more than one computer?

    I have a new Mac Air and would like to back up to my existing Time Machine which I also use for my older Macbook. Can I use back up both on time machine?
    thanks

    General rule of thumb is you need a drive about 2-4 times the size of the total amount of data being backed up. See #1.
    Time Machine FAQ
    I backup 2 computers to the same drive and have never had any problems.

  • I had to upgrade from ios7 to ios8 but it needed more storage than i had so i backed up my phone to my computer then deleted the content on my phone and upgraded to ios8.  i have not connect my phone and computer since.  how do i get my content back?

    i had to upgrade from ios7 to ios8 but it needed more storage  i had so i backed up my phone to my computer then deleted the content on my phone and upgraded to ios8.  i have not connect my phone and computer since.  how do i get my content back? 

    Restore the backup from your computer

  • Can Time Machine backup more than just one disc?

    I'm new to Time Machine and have set it up to back up my iMacs main hard drive and this seems to be working fine, but I would like Time Machine to back up one other folder on an external hard drive to.
    Is this possible?
    Hope someone can help.
    Pete

    Time Machine can back up external HDs, if they're formatted for a Mac.  See how the drive in question is listed in the exclusions box in TM Prefs > Options.  If it's listed in black, just select it and click the minus sign at the bottom of the widow.  Then it will be backed-up.
    If it's listed in gray, though, that means it's not formatted for a Mac and Time Machine cannot back it up (and you can't remove it from the exclusion list).  You'll have to copy the data elsewhere temporarily, reformat it, then copy the data back.  See #1 in Formatting, Partitioning, Verifying, and Repairing  Disks if you need formatting instructions.

  • Time machine on more than one back up drive?

    Once you outgrow a hard drive, can you specify Time Machine to continue on a 2nd drive or do you have to buy a bigger drive? This is really confusing to me as i almost filled 500GB and do video work.

    I have a slightly different fix on the same question. I have been backing up to two external drives, one at home and one at work. Time machine does not seem to mind - I just open time Machine Preferences and choose the appropriate disk drive depending on where I am at the time. The drive icon goes from orange to blue and the backup starts.
    That said, I did fill up one drive and began fresh on a new drive at work I just keep the old drive in a drawer and have never tried to restore from it. Are you saying the content of that old drive is lost?
    Walt

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